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Not to have given up my seat on plane

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Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 07:14

Just wondering ....

I flew home last night from holiday with a friend.

BA flights , flight out was dreadful, cramped seats , allocated at check in so we had last row next to the toilets ...

On the way back we learnt our lesson so paid to book seats, I booked an aisle seat, friend booked a window seat, flight about 70 per cent full.

The person in the middle seat , asked me if I would move so she could have the aisle seat.

I refused and said no I booked aisle and don't want to sit in middle seat. She said but I want to be near my family in the row opposite. I still politely refued to move.

Cue lots of aggro, she finally got the flight attendants to move her accusing me and my friend of talking over her , we absolutely were not, both had headphones on watching netflix.

If you really want to sit somewhere why can't you pay 23.99 and pre reserve a seat, don't make others feel bad for not giving up theirs ?

OP posts:
MHA · 28/05/2024 12:12

had the same coming home from holiday family with kids ..one was in my seat with is mom and other baby ..so he asked to seat the seat behind next to him ..my wife was in a end seat and next to her was other family member with is kid.. but talking to the dad many in is party of 20+was in there wrong seating this is easy to stop cabin crew just say you must be in your own seat from the start from the plane thanking off ....

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/05/2024 12:09

Whostolemymojo · 28/05/2024 10:55

I’d have swapped. For £30 cash 🤣

But that's what I mentioned earlier - has anyone ever heard of someone offering whatever's already been paid for the seat they're requesting?

I haven't myself and when I asked a pal who works as cabin crew she just laughed and said it works in three stages:

Ask "could you possibly ..." with a winsome smile, a short sob story and usually a baby voice
Embroider sob story and insist how important their "need" is
Get nasty

Whostolemymojo · 28/05/2024 10:55

I’d have swapped. For £30 cash 🤣

willWillSmithsmith · 28/05/2024 10:17

You weren’t being unreasonable to refuse and she was allowed to ask but I would rather sit next to my friend than have a stranger between us.

Although if you booking those particular seats were in the hope that no one would book the middle seat then that’s the risk you take.

Donsyb · 28/05/2024 10:13

Bushwhacked20 · 26/05/2024 07:28

YANBU. Since when did BA charge to reserve seats though? They charge a bloody fortune as it is. A lot has obviously changed since I last flew with them!

You were absolutely right to refuse to move, stroppy entitled mare (her, not you). Do airlines still check seat manifests to identify passengers in the event of disasters etc? Sure she wouldn't have wanted the wrong family being notified....

They started charging years ago. It’s only free if you have elite status

CecilyP · 28/05/2024 09:49

I absolutely would not move from an aisle seat in the theatre

Fair enough, you probably have a reason for booking one! And presumably if going with a friend, she doesn’t go for seat 3 in! But theatres are different; seats in the middle are dearer than seats at the edge (at least in mine where there’s no middle aisle either).

KimberleyClark · 28/05/2024 09:38

CecilyP · 28/05/2024 08:56

We’ve done that! For some reason our 2 seats were bang in the middle of a larger group, so we moved so they could all sit together. However theatres don’t charge extra to book specific seats, only charge more or less depending on section of the theatre. As others have pointed out, some theatres booking systems, do not allow you to leave single vacant seats.

It is annoying when you’re trying to book tickets for a show and all that’s left is single seats miles apart from each other.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 28/05/2024 09:04

Flossflower · 28/05/2024 08:52

I absolutely would not move from an aisle seat in the theatre

No me neither.

I am very claustrophobic though, so that might colour my opinion.

Flossflower · 28/05/2024 09:03

Bigearringsbigsmile · 28/05/2024 08:17

Really our ire should be directed at the airlines who have introduced this system as a money spinner. There is no other reason for it. Just like charging for bags.

Back in the day, you checked in at the airport and you were seated next to your travelling companion.

But somehow progress means we now have to pay for the privilege. It's just bullshit

Flying was a lot more expensive then. As somebody up thread has already stated, now you pay less for a flight but more for the extras including sitting next to the people you are travelling with.

CecilyP · 28/05/2024 08:56

twoblackdogs · 28/05/2024 08:20

Not this again.
You pay for your seat, you sit in your seat. This is your seat now.
Would you switch seats with somebody at at theatre, if that somebody asks for a better seat (yours, fully paid by you)?

We’ve done that! For some reason our 2 seats were bang in the middle of a larger group, so we moved so they could all sit together. However theatres don’t charge extra to book specific seats, only charge more or less depending on section of the theatre. As others have pointed out, some theatres booking systems, do not allow you to leave single vacant seats.

Flossflower · 28/05/2024 08:52

Possinass · 28/05/2024 08:38

A few times when I've tried to book certain theatres it won't let you book if you leave a one seat gap.
And to be fair if I was in seats 20 and 21, and 2 friends could only book 19 and 22, I would happily shift down one so they could sit together. The aisle/window issue wouldn't really occur in a theatre. Plus you SHOULDN'T be talking in a theatre anyway so being next to your friend isn't a huge deal like it might be on a plane when you want to pass the time talking/ sharing snacks or gripping their hand for deal life on take off and landing.
(I am actually on the side of not moving from your paid for seats on planes. However I also don't agree with people leaving the middle seat free.)

I absolutely would not move from an aisle seat in the theatre

Possinass · 28/05/2024 08:38

twoblackdogs · 28/05/2024 08:20

Not this again.
You pay for your seat, you sit in your seat. This is your seat now.
Would you switch seats with somebody at at theatre, if that somebody asks for a better seat (yours, fully paid by you)?

A few times when I've tried to book certain theatres it won't let you book if you leave a one seat gap.
And to be fair if I was in seats 20 and 21, and 2 friends could only book 19 and 22, I would happily shift down one so they could sit together. The aisle/window issue wouldn't really occur in a theatre. Plus you SHOULDN'T be talking in a theatre anyway so being next to your friend isn't a huge deal like it might be on a plane when you want to pass the time talking/ sharing snacks or gripping their hand for deal life on take off and landing.
(I am actually on the side of not moving from your paid for seats on planes. However I also don't agree with people leaving the middle seat free.)

twoblackdogs · 28/05/2024 08:20

Not this again.
You pay for your seat, you sit in your seat. This is your seat now.
Would you switch seats with somebody at at theatre, if that somebody asks for a better seat (yours, fully paid by you)?

Bigearringsbigsmile · 28/05/2024 08:17

Really our ire should be directed at the airlines who have introduced this system as a money spinner. There is no other reason for it. Just like charging for bags.

Back in the day, you checked in at the airport and you were seated next to your travelling companion.

But somehow progress means we now have to pay for the privilege. It's just bullshit

novocaine4thesoul · 28/05/2024 03:59

CoffeeBeansGalore · 26/05/2024 12:52

I haven't flown for a while so can anybody answer this question:-
Can you book & pay seat allocation for 3 seats together if only 2 people are travelling?
And will the cabin crew then honour that allocation?
Reason being being medical condition/disability and needing extra room.

Hopefully @CoffeeBeansGalore others may have answered. Massively depends on the airline, you are best calling them. If it is long haul, you are probably best going up a class so sitting together and just the two of you is guaranteed or paying for a two together seat (KLM defo do this) and if you go to Seatguru there are a few planes that have 2 seats together on shorthaul (although rare - and there is no window on these seats either) If it is a budget short haul, you have more issues. You can chance your arm and book 3 seats on the flight together, with a third "fictitious" person in Seat 3 who simply does not turn up, plenty of passengers do not turn up for their flights and this is not a problem in itself, and you might be lucky, but there is no guarantee. If it is a longhaul, they can cancel your returning journey. My experience of cabin crew is they try and do the best by everyone once they are on the plane, but this can mean you have to compromise, and they do not care what you have booked or paid for. I had an empty seat next to me on a long haul (2 seat), but a larger lady that had disabilities could not / did not want to sit in the seat she was given so they moved her into the seat next to me so she could stretch her leg out and have more room. Don't get me wrong, she was lovely and a bit apologetic, but I definitely had a very cramped flight against the window to put up with as a result. Also, if you need extra leg room the emergency exit aisles are always a good option, but not if you are disabled, they will not let you sit there. HTH x

naffusername · 28/05/2024 02:16

Well, we both like aisle seats and we book early, either across the aisle from each other or in different rows.

Then Air Canada comes along and screws it up. No refunds.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 28/05/2024 00:40

measureofmydreams · 27/05/2024 23:31

My husband had a prostatectomy in recent years and so feels more confident being near the loo. We book aisle (him) and middle seat (me). I'm sure the booking system for the flights we go on (with Tui) won't allow two people in the same booking to leave a spare seat between them. (although you may not have been on the same booking i guess)

You paid for the seat, it's yours.

TUI airlines is an outlier on this front - reflecting their overwhelming family / couples customer profile

CecilyP · 28/05/2024 00:39

They were! Whereas it would be perfectly normal to take an aisle and a middle or a window and a middle - probably what 99% of what fellow travellers do!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 28/05/2024 00:37

friendlycat · 27/05/2024 22:05

Sorry but that’s just completely inconsiderate. Why on earth should another passenger have your baby being passed across them the whole time.

Once you knew your middle seat ploy hadn’t worked really you should then have moved to sit next to each other.

You would have been hearing a lot of sighs from me. My kindle would have been obstructing your pass the baby game. I don’t want my table and contents constantly bashed by your baby’s feet etc. My drinks may have been spilt. utter entitlement.

Or not play pass the parcel on a very short flight

drusth · 28/05/2024 00:36

CecilyP · 28/05/2024 00:32

No idea! I was just responding to your scenario where OP and her friend could have left the window seat!

Edited

How can you not have an idea? You said they were selfish for taking the window and aisle?

Ozanj · 28/05/2024 00:35

I think when you travel with family you should pay to sit together. Or be prepared to pay onboard if you want to swap.

Theoriginalmrscillianmurphy · 28/05/2024 00:35

I would have offered to move.

CecilyP · 28/05/2024 00:32

drusth · 28/05/2024 00:02

So why does a random stranger deserve the window seat more?

No idea! I was just responding to your scenario where OP and her friend could have left the window seat!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 28/05/2024 00:31

Mayana1 · 27/05/2024 18:43

I get your point. But her friend wanted a window one, she wanted an aisle. I remembered once I was flying with my husband and our lap infant and I booked us same. (I did hope nobody will book that middle seat so we would be able to put our 1 year old down, but plane was packed and seat was taken). The guy did ask us if we wanted to sit together, but my husband wanted a window(and he's tall, sitting in the middle doesn't suit him) and I fly aisle for ages and always pay for it as don't want to be squashed in the middle. It was 2hrs flight though and the guy in the middle was very patient when we joggle our baby from one to another. But unfortunately, I am not comfortable in the middle or even window seat. I will never swap, unless like for like- different row, same seat.

Why did you have to keep passing your baby over on a 2 hour flight over the man in the middle?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 28/05/2024 00:29

UnfriendMe · 27/05/2024 17:43

Not unreasonable at all, if she wanted to pick her seat she should have paid, end of. I've had this happen to me a few times for a few diff reasons. Me and my husband both hate middle and window seats so we always choose aisle seats across from each other. Countless times someone has asked one of us to swap to be closer to their family, BC they wanted an aisle, and one time on a flight from Dubai an older Muslim woman asked me to swap BC she "can't" sit by a man. So ridiculous. Each time I told them too bad, not my problem. Good for you for standing your ground.

Totally standard on some airlines for there to be a rejigging of seats on boarding so women don't have to sit next to men they're unrelated to (appreciate thought that's not your culture or your frame of reference). Passengers fine with that as that was the societal expectation

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