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Not to have given up my seat on plane

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Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 07:14

Just wondering ....

I flew home last night from holiday with a friend.

BA flights , flight out was dreadful, cramped seats , allocated at check in so we had last row next to the toilets ...

On the way back we learnt our lesson so paid to book seats, I booked an aisle seat, friend booked a window seat, flight about 70 per cent full.

The person in the middle seat , asked me if I would move so she could have the aisle seat.

I refused and said no I booked aisle and don't want to sit in middle seat. She said but I want to be near my family in the row opposite. I still politely refued to move.

Cue lots of aggro, she finally got the flight attendants to move her accusing me and my friend of talking over her , we absolutely were not, both had headphones on watching netflix.

If you really want to sit somewhere why can't you pay 23.99 and pre reserve a seat, don't make others feel bad for not giving up theirs ?

OP posts:
Rocknrollstar · 26/05/2024 09:43

I travel on my own and have been asked by the crew if I would mind moving. I always book an aisle seat so my reply is ‘I don’t mind moving as long as it is to another aisle seat.’ I agree that if people want to sit together , they should book their seats. DD and I don’t mind if we don’t sit together on a short flight! We often book opposite aisle seats.

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/05/2024 09:41

TheTartfulLodger · 26/05/2024 09:04

It's not simple though. As multiple people have pointed out, it's actually quite an unusual thing for friends who want to sit together to do.

It isn't unusual at all. Lots of people don't like the middle seat. And even if it were...so what? That's the point of reserving specific seats; so that if it's important to you to sit somewhere in particular, you can pay to do that.

Nobody is obliged to reserve their seat depending on what someone who hasn't reserved one might prefer!

mondaytosunday · 26/05/2024 09:34

@Inkyblue123 I would have said the at I'd swap for the window seat so they could sit next to each other - see how well that would have gone down!
I'm flying out on easyJet and have booked a window seat for myself. My kids (19 and 20) are flying out afterwards and I've booked the aisle seats on either side of the aisle, so no one has to sit in the middle yet they are still close to each other. This seems a fair thing to do - the flight is likely to be full and inevitably someone would be between them if I'd done as OP did. On the way back we are three together.

icelolly12 · 26/05/2024 09:18

I had a similar scenario. I was flying back from italy and feeling really ill with a bad uti infection that I ended up needing to take antibiotics for. I felt so weak and was desperate to get back home and really needed to be near the bathroom in an aisle seat. I'd booked for this (as could anyone). It took all my strength putting my luggage up above me.

As I was settled, a snooty woman seated by the window asks me to swap with her (adult) Daughter who was seated in a different part of the plane. I said no (probably in quite a firm tone) without giving an explanation.

Anyway, she ended up getting the middle aisle guy to swap which was a right palaver as there wasn't room for his luggage in the new seat. and it was a struggle for him moving as people were coming in the opposite direction to get to their seats making me glad I didn't out of politeness agree. Then she kept making sarky comments about the 'nice lovely polite guy' implying I'm a rude bitch. 🙄

Sorry but if you want a specific seat, book it/pay for it/queue early. Hate entitled people.

Sillystrumpet · 26/05/2024 09:15

msbevvy · 26/05/2024 09:14

Yes, it is a well known strategy to try and get more space to yourselves hoping that someone doesn't book the middle seat or are intimidated into moving because they don't want to be talked over.

This woman might well have been happy to be in the middle seat but probably wasn't expecting to be stuck between two people that know each other. That is a really awkward situation to put someone in.

In this case I would have hoped that either you or your friend would have offered to move without even being asked. You paid extra to book a seat, I know but you still would have had the advantage of being seated together rather than in the middle of a couple of strangers.

Tough, she could have paid to avoid that, it is always a risk.

msbevvy · 26/05/2024 09:14

Bigearringsbigsmile · 26/05/2024 07:28

You and your friend booked an aisle and a window because you know it stops people booking the middle seat and you hoped for the free seat in between.

She was not unreasonable to ask and you were not unreasonable to say no but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

Yes, it is a well known strategy to try and get more space to yourselves hoping that someone doesn't book the middle seat or are intimidated into moving because they don't want to be talked over.

This woman might well have been happy to be in the middle seat but probably wasn't expecting to be stuck between two people that know each other. That is a really awkward situation to put someone in.

In this case I would have hoped that either you or your friend would have offered to move without even being asked. You paid extra to book a seat, I know but you still would have had the advantage of being seated together rather than in the middle of a couple of strangers.

VeryGoodVeryNiceChickenNugget · 26/05/2024 09:12

Yanbu. I'll never swap seats if I've paid to choose mine. And if I haven't, and someone wants to swap and their seat is worse than mine, they can jog on too.

SpringerFall · 26/05/2024 09:05

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 07:20

I'd have probably swapped because I don't see the harm in doing so.

You booked your seat, so didn't have to swap, but this is an example of how having to pay for something additionally (guaranteed seats) drives unhelpful interactions.

Edited

No people pay for what they want, it's simple

They have cheap flights for a reason if people want it all included, the price would be higher so it's no different but regardless if you want specific seats book them it is not rocket science

TheTartfulLodger · 26/05/2024 09:04

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/05/2024 08:54

Because one of them wanted the window, one wanted the aisle. It's very simple.

It's not simple though. As multiple people have pointed out, it's actually quite an unusual thing for friends who want to sit together to do.

sonjadog · 26/05/2024 09:01

I would never swap an aisle seat for a middle seat. I would have thought everyone would realise what a bad swap that this! I only swap like for like.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 26/05/2024 08:59

MumChp · 26/05/2024 07:34

Happy to. You pay £ x what I paid for sitting here and 100% on top to me for changing my seat to one I didn't want..

No? Fine.
Works everytime.

Actually that's a smart idea... just say I paid £xx for this seat and I'm happy to move if you refund me ! Cash only !

BeaRF75 · 26/05/2024 08:58

I never fly without booking my seat - and paying for it - so of course I wouldn't move. If a passenger is stupid enough not to book their seat, then they go where they are al,located. It's blindingly obvious.

AlinaSquareQueen · 26/05/2024 08:55

On the one hand, I don’t blame you for not moving. I like to have an aisle seat, and I’ll gladly pay the extra for this. I did move once for an entitled couple who were nowhere near each other, but they didn’t utter a word of thanks, so never again.

Otoh, unbelievable that you and friend booked aisle and window seats. I’ve flown loads, and I reckon on maybe one or two occasions have been lucky in having an empty seat next to me. It just rarely happens, in my experience.

NashvilleQueen · 26/05/2024 08:54

You are entitled to refuse of course but it's really weird for two friends to book seats on the same row with a gap between. Did you assume it would be empty? Also it meant you talking across the middle person and the middle person talking across you to her own family. I'd definitely have swapped in that situation.

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/05/2024 08:54

TheTartfulLodger · 26/05/2024 08:52

Why did you book leaving an empty seat between you? I'm not clear on that bit.

Because one of them wanted the window, one wanted the aisle. It's very simple.

TheTartfulLodger · 26/05/2024 08:52

Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 08:42

Hi, they were her sisters I think, all late 20s female

Kids involved I may have moved I'm not sure

She knew my friend and I were together as we boarded together and said o look here are our seats , she was already sat down

We would no way have talked over her during the flight , both watching Bridgerton !

Why did you book leaving an empty seat between you? I'm not clear on that bit.

Sillystrumpet · 26/05/2024 08:51

CecilyP · 26/05/2024 07:55

I think you and your friend were actually quite mean to book an aisle seat and a window seat so some other poor soul would have to sit between you. Friends usually book seats so they can sit together! There must have been some way that she knew that you were together, rather than two random strangers. You probably weren’t as reasonable as you like to think you were! No wonder she asked to be moved!

Just think how wonderful it would have been if the woman had been offered a chance to book the seat she wished,, oh wait . She was. She decided not to spend the money and take what she was given. As such, if given the middle She was always going to be between two people. And yes in a ,of of instances they may know each other.

she declined to pay, her fault. Her problem.

TheTartfulLodger · 26/05/2024 08:44

karottybagel · 26/05/2024 07:28

I've not said she should sit in the middle. I've not said OP was WRONG. I think however when travelling with someone else that it's polite to sit together or further apart than one seat away. It is not the social norm to create an awkward seat in the middle for one person.

So that also applies to the woman who wanted to sit with her family, yes?

Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 08:42

Trickofthetrade · 26/05/2024 08:18

How old were the kids ? If they were toddlers on their own then I would have been a bit more sympathetic. BUT then she shouldn't have taken the risk that they would be sitting together.

Hi, they were her sisters I think, all late 20s female

Kids involved I may have moved I'm not sure

She knew my friend and I were together as we boarded together and said o look here are our seats , she was already sat down

We would no way have talked over her during the flight , both watching Bridgerton !

OP posts:
itsgettingweird · 26/05/2024 08:31

Out*ofthehouse
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How did you get that conclusion from what I wrote?

I typed quite clearly I didn't agree with paying and I don't. I don't think anyone should have to pay and I think when families book they should automatically get seats allocated together. I don't care where I sit. However my son who travels with me is disabled. I inform the airline. It's up to them to decide if they want me sat next to him as his carer or not.

If someone pays for a seat they should have it.
No one paid to the exit seats they allocated my son and I.

I could have actually said to sit my ds behind me and kept the exit myself as I could sit in it.

DoublePeonies · 26/05/2024 08:24

Not moving from a prepaid seat, fine.

However, you were a total arse for leaving a free seat between you and your friend.

So, I can't really vote.

Dweetfidilove · 26/05/2024 08:24

Booking an aisle and window seat leaving the middle unoccupied is usually considered a dick move , but you’re not unreasonable for keeping the seat you paid for.

InTheRainOnATrain · 26/05/2024 08:23

Nouvellenovel · 26/05/2024 07:46

They were quietly watching Netflix.
Poor stranger needs to pay £23.99!

I don’t know that I agree actually. Personally I wouldn’t care about being sat in the middle between 2 strangers on a short flight but I would care about being sat between 2 friends because it’s just so awkward! In this case the middle seat occupier sounds quite rude, but if it were me I would have asked the crew politely if there was a free seat elsewhere I could move to. Also presumably the move request happened during boarding, and the Netflix watching was after take off, so she wasn’t to know they wouldn’t spend the whole flight talking over her, presumably they were talking at boarding or else how else would she have known they were together? Yes OP and her mate paid for those seats and are therefore entitled to sit in them but it’s still not a very nice thing to do. In this scenario I would have booked 2 aisles opposite each other. Then no one has to sit in the middle and no awkwardness for a poor stranger!

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 26/05/2024 08:19

Inkyblue123 · 26/05/2024 07:39

I was flying to Italy and I had booked the window seat . An elderly couple sat next me and the lady asked if we could swap as she had a bad shoulder. I obliged and sat in the middle. I spent the next 2 hours with them bickering across me and even dropping food all over me, it was a nightmare. No good deed goes unpunished.

I couldn’t have put up with that quietly.

After the first couple of times I’d have asked to swop seats with the man, and if that was refused I’d have held my book in the most obstructive position possible.

Trickofthetrade · 26/05/2024 08:18

How old were the kids ? If they were toddlers on their own then I would have been a bit more sympathetic. BUT then she shouldn't have taken the risk that they would be sitting together.

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