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Not to have given up my seat on plane

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Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 07:14

Just wondering ....

I flew home last night from holiday with a friend.

BA flights , flight out was dreadful, cramped seats , allocated at check in so we had last row next to the toilets ...

On the way back we learnt our lesson so paid to book seats, I booked an aisle seat, friend booked a window seat, flight about 70 per cent full.

The person in the middle seat , asked me if I would move so she could have the aisle seat.

I refused and said no I booked aisle and don't want to sit in middle seat. She said but I want to be near my family in the row opposite. I still politely refued to move.

Cue lots of aggro, she finally got the flight attendants to move her accusing me and my friend of talking over her , we absolutely were not, both had headphones on watching netflix.

If you really want to sit somewhere why can't you pay 23.99 and pre reserve a seat, don't make others feel bad for not giving up theirs ?

OP posts:
YourPithyLilacSheep · 26/05/2024 15:10

Tickets should be more expensive to cover that so that people have the freedom and choice to pick their seats.

Well then if I got stuck with a middle seat, I'd want a discount! My preference is a window seat & I'm generally happy to add that to the cost of my flight, if I'm going economy on a cheap airline.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 15:09

CoffeeBeansGalore · 26/05/2024 12:52

I haven't flown for a while so can anybody answer this question:-
Can you book & pay seat allocation for 3 seats together if only 2 people are travelling?
And will the cabin crew then honour that allocation?
Reason being being medical condition/disability and needing extra room.

Some airlines permit that - and you don't have to pay a full fare, it's just an added extra like luggage

Possinass · 26/05/2024 15:05

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 14:55

Why wouldn't they want to be in the same row? Help each other with bags on boarding/disembarking, getting off at the same time etc. why would they go out of their way to be seated in two totally different parts of the plane?

Edited

No one is saying one needs to book row 1 and the other row 51.
You can still help each other and get off at the same time if one is in the window of row 10 and one the aisle of row 11. Or in fact they could both book row 10. But on opposite sides. Thus leaving 2 seats on each side free. That would only mean instead of having 1 person in the middle it would only be 2 people and an aisle. That's it.

Edited because I'm an idiot and can't count

LizzieBennett73 · 26/05/2024 15:04

This old chestnut again.

We prebooked premium economy flying BA with a window and middle seat, and the lady on the aisle wanted my window seat. I said no thanks, I booked these 3 months ago when we booked the flight. She explained that she hadn't slept in over 24 hours due to work and travel and just wanted to be able to sleep without being asked to keep moving. In hindsight, as she then slept for most of the flight, I should have moved because for most of those 9 hours we were trapped in our seats. And sods law I had a view at take off but we landed in thick fog and saw fuck all..........

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 15:04

Cinai · 26/05/2024 11:35

It’s not like the middle seat person suddenly decided that they don’t fancy their middle seat though. Then yes, they could have paid to choose their own seat. It sounds like they didn’t fancy being talked over, which is reasonable. OP says that they weren’t talking, but how did the third person then even know that they were friends.

Perhaps because they got on together and helped each other with their bags? Or one said to the other 'Sarah, I think this is seat 20A'? Does t mean they were speak8 g across the (non paying) middle seat passenger

drusth · 26/05/2024 15:03

StormingNorman · 26/05/2024 13:08

The harm was that she wanted (and paid for) the extra feeling of space of an aisle seat and would have lost that by moving to the middle seat.

Agreed. There’s so much sexism on this thread. It’s accepted that men book the aisle seat for more flex to stretch their legs but a woman doing the same is unthinkable, the only reason she booked the aisle is she wanted the middle too. All that matters is OP paid extra to book her seat. It’s not her job to accommodate others just because she’s a woman.

WhatsitWiggle · 26/05/2024 15:03

@Bushwhacked20 you can choose your seats for free on check-in, which opens 24 hours before your flight, unless you've booked a basic fare - it'sto make basic pricing competitive to easyjet.

Or you can choose seats further in advance if you're Exec Club member higher than Blue.

Families get allocated together as much as possible for free, but only where child is under 12, and if you've got 2 adults and 2 children, that could include 1 adult and 1 child sat together, and the other pair sat together somewhere else. And together can be across the aisle.

So if the flight is full of families, EC members, people who've paid, then by the time check-in opens, there's not much left to choose from.

Easyjet is the same or worse though - if you don't pay, you don't stand a hope of being sat together.

We kind of brought it on ourselves. When Easyjet launched as "no frills", you got a number when you checked in and boarding was done by that number. So the earlier you checked in, the more chance you had of getting your preferred seat. But people complained when they were last to check in and weren't sat together. So priority boarding at a charge was introduced. And people liked that. So much so, that airlines looked for what else they could charge for. And here we are. Your fare is literally getting you from A to B, anything else is extra. Whereas 30 years ago, everything was included - meals, drinks, luggage, seating, seat back TVs on short-haul.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 15:01

VaccineSticker · 26/05/2024 11:32

The unreasonable party here is the airline company. No one should have to prebook tickets at an extra cost. Tickets should be more expensive to cover that so that people have the freedom and choice to pick their seats. The whole system is an utter farce.

Edited

I don't want to pay extra to pre book a seat or to take a wheelie bag on board or hold luggage!

GiantHornets · 26/05/2024 15:00

VaccineSticker · 26/05/2024 11:32

The unreasonable party here is the airline company. No one should have to prebook tickets at an extra cost. Tickets should be more expensive to cover that so that people have the freedom and choice to pick their seats. The whole system is an utter farce.

Edited

Why should tickets be more expensive to allow people to pick their preferred seats without charge?
I don’t care where I sit, and I don’t need to sit with DH or my friends on a flight.
Why should I pay more so you can pick & choose?

KimberleyClark · 26/05/2024 14:58

RobinHood19 · 26/05/2024 14:40

Why are couples wanting to sit together more important than two single travellers, who presumably want a window and an aisle just as much as the couple wants 2 seats next to each other?

Two single travelers wanting a window and aisle seat could travel in different rows. They don’t have to be in the same row. They can be more flexible.

YourPithyLilacSheep · 26/05/2024 14:56

Of course YWNBU. She just didn't like the middle seat.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 14:55

mileenderr · 26/05/2024 11:31

This is perfectly fine. What I don't understand is why you need to be in the same row?

Why wouldn't they want to be in the same row? Help each other with bags on boarding/disembarking, getting off at the same time etc. why would they go out of their way to be seated in two totally different parts of the plane?

CaramelMacchiatoMum · 26/05/2024 14:55

Bigearringsbigsmile · 26/05/2024 07:28

You and your friend booked an aisle and a window because you know it stops people booking the middle seat and you hoped for the free seat in between.

She was not unreasonable to ask and you were not unreasonable to say no but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

This!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 14:53

mileenderr · 26/05/2024 11:12

So basically, it's OK be selfish and inconsiderate, as long as you've paid money to be selfish and inconsiderate.

So,basically it's OK to be entitled and grabby so long as you haven't paid money to be entitled and grabby?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 14:50

niceandsimple · 26/05/2024 10:20

unless there was an unusual circumstance I wouldn't switch.
We were once on a flight that was cancelled about 1 hour before the flight was supposed to take off. we took the first available flight that had enough seats, but we were the last on which meant that me, DH, DD4 and DD2 had 4 seperate seats. DD2 and I were in the middle of a large family group of at least 9 adults, so I asked if they would switch so that my 2 year old daughter would not be sitting on her own. They refused. why they wanted to sit with a toddler on her own was beyond me! the flight attendants did ask them to move, as they knew our situation, but the looks I got the whole flight... It was the only time I have ever cried in front of strangers!!

But,DD2 wasn't on her own - she was with you

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 26/05/2024 14:44

Bigearringsbigsmile · 26/05/2024 07:28

You and your friend booked an aisle and a window because you know it stops people booking the middle seat and you hoped for the free seat in between.

She was not unreasonable to ask and you were not unreasonable to say no but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

Dh and I routinely book aisle plus window, because those seats are what we prefer. We never expect the middle seat to stay free, and don’t care who sits in it, as long as it’s not a) anyone with ripe BO, b) anyone so fat that they’re overflowing into our space, or c) anyone wanting to chat non-stop when we will be mostly reading or watching movies.
After many such flights, touch wood they’ve always been fine.

RobinHood19 · 26/05/2024 14:43

RobinHood19 · 26/05/2024 14:40

Why are couples wanting to sit together more important than two single travellers, who presumably want a window and an aisle just as much as the couple wants 2 seats next to each other?

PS I’ve said this before but there are many reasons why someone might want a specific seat instead of taking “any seat of that type” in a different row (to leave 2 seats together).

Health issues that make leaning on the left / right more comfortable, flight connections, proximity to toilets… People are allowed to pay for whatever they want, and it’s not cheeky to book the way OP and her friend did.

RobinHood19 · 26/05/2024 14:40

CecilyP · 26/05/2024 14:26

Not really. It’s not that complicated! Window seats are generally most popular so tend to go first. There are generally random aisle seats available where there are already couples booked in the window and middle.

Why are couples wanting to sit together more important than two single travellers, who presumably want a window and an aisle just as much as the couple wants 2 seats next to each other?

sueelleker · 26/05/2024 14:37

Bigearringsbigsmile · 26/05/2024 07:28

You and your friend booked an aisle and a window because you know it stops people booking the middle seat and you hoped for the free seat in between.

She was not unreasonable to ask and you were not unreasonable to say no but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

So the fact that they both booked the seats they wanted is somehow a power play?

Proudtobeanortherner · 26/05/2024 14:36

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 07:20

I'd have probably swapped because I don't see the harm in doing so.

You booked your seat, so didn't have to swap, but this is an example of how having to pay for something additionally (guaranteed seats) drives unhelpful interactions.

Edited

I am really confused; what do
you mean? Paying extra to book guaranteed seats doesn’t drive unhelpful interactions; entitled people do. It sounds as though you think that the OP was unreasonable not to move. Is that what you’re trying to say?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 14:34

Bigearringsbigsmile · 26/05/2024 07:28

You and your friend booked an aisle and a window because you know it stops people booking the middle seat and you hoped for the free seat in between.

She was not unreasonable to ask and you were not unreasonable to say no but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

Come on - why deliberately awkward? No one wants a middle seat but at least they can get off together, help each other with bags etc

Allthehorsesintheworld · 26/05/2024 14:34

YANBU.
I gave up my seat on a long haul flight, was told by flight attendant I could have a free drink for doing so. I don’t drink alcohol so that’ll be a water please. In new seat the headset was faulty ( pre smart phones). Was told nothing they could do I’d normally be offered a free drink but I’d already had one , maximum they could give. I didn’t cry over a missed water 😊but it was a long, boring flight.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 14:31

karottybagel · 26/05/2024 07:24

Whilst I agree in principle it is REALLY awkward being sat between two people who know each other. Even if you were watching netflix if she knew you were together it is going to get awkward for her. I think it's polite to book seats next to the person you are travelling with or at least in a different row so you aren't together.

Having said that no, yanbu

Why is it awkward sitting between two people who know each other and who are happily independently watching Netflix?

FTPM1980 · 26/05/2024 14:28

I wouldn't have booked two seats on same row with a gap in the middle.
Especially to a holiday destination....very few people would be travelling alone, and if they were they would not want to sit between two friends.

Flight may only have been 70%full but if the 30% had booked their seats she presumably had little choice and even if you weren't chatting constantly I imagine there were some exchanges and it would have been quite awkward

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 14:28

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 07:20

I'd have probably swapped because I don't see the harm in doing so.

You booked your seat, so didn't have to swap, but this is an example of how having to pay for something additionally (guaranteed seats) drives unhelpful interactions.

Edited

Who wants to sit in a middle seat?!