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Grandparent moves grandchild to another country

131 replies

ChirpyBiscuit · 25/05/2024 21:20

AIBU to think that this should not be allowed to happen?
My mother has taken my daughter without my permission to another country meaning that she can’t easily see me or her siblings.
I am a kind, gentle, caring mother and AIBU to think that this is against human rights?

OP posts:
Itsnamechange · 25/05/2024 21:44

ChirpyBiscuit · 25/05/2024 21:41

I will try to give more context. I haven’t seen her for a long time neither have her siblings because my mother and my daughter are now so far away and I’m scared of my mother. I don’t want to go anywhere near my mother.
My mother has a narcissist personality and has managed to lie about me to my daughter. She’s manipulated my daughter and managed to get social services to believe her lies. My daughter’s siblings still live with me.
It might be difficult for you to believe what I’m saying, however, if you’ve had experience with someone like my mother you would believe it could happen

So your mum has custody of your daughter to the extent you’ve lost parental rights? Because obviously you would still have a say if you hadn’t lost parental rights.

You’re unlikely to get support here without the full story op. And I suspect you don’t want us to know the full story.

Starlightstarbright3 · 25/05/2024 21:43

Does she have any legal rights . How old is your Dd?

I would suggest legal advice

ChirpyBiscuit · 25/05/2024 21:41

I will try to give more context. I haven’t seen her for a long time neither have her siblings because my mother and my daughter are now so far away and I’m scared of my mother. I don’t want to go anywhere near my mother.
My mother has a narcissist personality and has managed to lie about me to my daughter. She’s manipulated my daughter and managed to get social services to believe her lies. My daughter’s siblings still live with me.
It might be difficult for you to believe what I’m saying, however, if you’ve had experience with someone like my mother you would believe it could happen

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Roundroundthegarden · 25/05/2024 21:40

No backstory or context 🧐

Merryoldgoat · 25/05/2024 21:39

Why not explain the situation properly rather than a cryptic post with no actual information?

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 25/05/2024 21:39

Is there the slightest possibility of FGM?

Unless there is vital information missing (like your mum has full permission from the courts to take your dd to another country), you should consider going to the police. If FGM is involved, you MUST go to the police.

Ponderingwindow · 25/05/2024 21:39

If she does not have the legal right to take your child, then report her for kidnapping. The reality of having your child returned depends upon the destination country, but you should still make the report.

if she is in fact the child’s legal guardian with parental decision making, then she is likely allowed to make whatever decisions she wishes.

The caveat would be if she is subject to restrictions in her guardianship, which might exist if the child is under the protection of child services. If this is the scenario, you should contact child services.

Kitkat1523 · 25/05/2024 21:38

If you are in the U.K. then guessing there is at least an ICO in place

BMW6 · 25/05/2024 21:37

You need to ring the Police surely? What's the background to this OP?

Where are you? What country has your DD been taken to?

Why has this happened?

Marianus · 25/05/2024 21:36

The fact that you say “I am a kind, gentle, caring mother”, suggests that someone has suggested you’re not.

Has your daughter been removed from your care?

karottybagel · 25/05/2024 21:35

Does she legally need your permission?

Cherrysoup · 25/05/2024 21:34

As in permanently?

mitogoshi · 25/05/2024 21:33

Unless she has guardianship, she wouldn't have her passport surely?

EggcornAcorn · 25/05/2024 21:33

You all make good points about there being perhaps more to this than the straightforward presentation in the OP.

Crumpetsssss · 25/05/2024 21:32

Unless there’s a massive backstory, then YANBU. It’s not allowed to happen.

I suspect there’s a whole heap more to it though.

TreadLight · 25/05/2024 21:32

On the basis of the information in the OP, I would have thought this would be a 999 call to the police.

Zonder · 25/05/2024 21:28

There must be more to this?

fedupwithbeingcold · 25/05/2024 21:28

More context needed. Did your mother come to your house and kidnapped your daughter? What country has she been taken to? How did she get hold of her passport? How old is your daughter?

EggcornAcorn · 25/05/2024 21:26

Which country does your daughter live in with you?

Which country has she been taken to?

What is your child's nationality?

How did your parent get the passport for your daughter?

I am sorry this has happened. Agree, seek urgent legal advice.

OhmygodDont · 25/05/2024 21:26

Presumably she has guardianship of the child and has permission to leave the country or rather doesn’t need it. Otherwise I’m sure your title would be about kidnapping.

Sunnysummer24 · 25/05/2024 21:26

How old is your daughter?
Why is she with her Grandmother not you? (Assuming she is a child)
Which country does the child normally live in?
Which country has she been taken to?
Is it a permanent move?

Youcancallmeirrelevant · 25/05/2024 21:25

Lots of missing info, do you have parental rights and full custody of your child, or does your mum have custody of your child?

Toxicinlawz · 25/05/2024 21:25

Op your post doesn't make any sense really. You've not given us much info and what's being kind and gentle got to do with your mum taking your child away to another country ... how did she get her passport? I'm assuming they were already travelling and now she's taken her elsewhere ?

WilliamButt · 25/05/2024 21:24

Slight bit of context missing here, I'd say.