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Am I getting it wrong - 13 year old DC and revision

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Lotscanchange · 25/05/2024 08:06

DC is bright, doing fine at school. They don’t get much homework but they seem to have termly tests in main subjects.

This year - year 8 - is important as they start their GSCE in year 9 and lots of streaming begins. I want him to be in a good set as the behaviour in class worsens as the set drops - and he’s a bit of a sponge for all that.

Anyway, whilst he cares and he’s quite competitive - he’d also prefer to be doing anything other than school work in his own time. I should also add he’s not great in tests without working in advance.

So I try to gee him up. Get him to do 30 mins a day for a few weeks (never works out every day but that’s the goal) to cover all the topics.

so i have to be on his case. And I am.

but then I woke in night thinking - what the fuck am I doing? Am I being ridiculous? Should I just be totally hands off and let him sort it? I had a panic that come year 9 onwards, where GCSE work begins, he’ll be over it and won’t do it

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Pottedpalm · 25/05/2024 08:28

I don’t think 30 mins is an unreasonable expectation. Is there a type of revision which appeals to him? Maybe making note cards for a history topic one day, five maths questions another day, 30 mins on a language learning app another.. Have a checklist and tick off so he can see progress.

Poppet77 · 25/05/2024 08:26

I don't think you are being unreasonsble as I don't think half an hour in an evening is long in the scheme of things, especially if you are flexible when it doesn't work out. I think if a routine was established of a set time (so its predictable) of e.g. 4.30-5pm, then its hardly a big deal as there is a lot of the evening left after this, especially given he has little homework. I think it set him up good and lastingvstudy habits that will lead to future success and he will have strategies under his belt for when the really important study years come around. I think it is a bit late to suddenly expect students to know how to employ good study habits by the time they are in Year 10/11 as this are habits that are best established and learned consistently in younger years. And the theory of spaced learning, interleaving and retrieval scientifically proves that little and often is more effective for long term learning than cramming.

Lotscanchange · 25/05/2024 08:25

thedendrochronologist · 25/05/2024 08:23

I'd not worry too much. We revise in class and tell them to take their revision home before the exams and have scan through

There is another reason he is not doing well in tests

Try to keep home a nice place, not a battle ground over homework

He still has another 6 years at school I'm not sure that 30 mins per day is realistic or fair.

Thank you - what do you mean there’s another reason he’s not doing well in tests?

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thedendrochronologist · 25/05/2024 08:23

I'd not worry too much. We revise in class and tell them to take their revision home before the exams and have scan through

There is another reason he is not doing well in tests

Try to keep home a nice place, not a battle ground over homework

He still has another 6 years at school I'm not sure that 30 mins per day is realistic or fair.

Lotscanchange · 25/05/2024 08:20

Peclet · 25/05/2024 08:17

I wouldn’t be waking him up early to do a set amount.

However we have encouraged and supported a bit of revision for tests coming up right from y7 to help
establish good self study habits.

For example at dinner they will be telling me about something they have done in English and then I can say oh bbc bitesized have some good resources on that for when your test comes up. And then we find them and look at them together then I go away and they do a bit more independently.

So I would do the research about resources and then try and match them to what they are doing. Then we just build up a bank of things that the school suggests and what I suggest and they can do 20 mins of that a few times a week. They make flash cards and we play games/teat one another with them.

So yes we do do some revision right from the get go.

That sounds good - but it’s also about what sort of kids you have. I worry that my son isn’t cut from the cloth that wants to do work like this - so it’s becoming destructive/counter productive

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Lotscanchange · 25/05/2024 08:19

BibbleandSqwauk · 25/05/2024 08:17

Secondary teacher and owner of two teens here. Very very different in their approach to school and work but other than giving them space and every resource they need / ask for I don't get involved unless directly asked. Time and again I've seen students, especially boys, do fuck all out of the classroom until after y11 mocks and then almost without exception they work their arses off for 6 months and do ok..usually bemoaning that they left it so late. But you can't make them. Even you you chain them to the table, if their brain isn't engaged it's not worth it.
I really really disagree with schools starting GCSE syllabi in Y9 unless it's in subjects that are naturally progressive like languages and maths. Summer borns who don't turn 13 until the summer hols are choosing their options at 12.
As to setting, I would hope there's some movement and flexibility at each point so your ds may decide for himself he wants to achieve more to get away from the idiots and the idiots may well improve as they grow.. again, they usually do.

Thanks, this is a really valuable perspective

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Peclet · 25/05/2024 08:17

I wouldn’t be waking him up early to do a set amount.

However we have encouraged and supported a bit of revision for tests coming up right from y7 to help
establish good self study habits.

For example at dinner they will be telling me about something they have done in English and then I can say oh bbc bitesized have some good resources on that for when your test comes up. And then we find them and look at them together then I go away and they do a bit more independently.

So I would do the research about resources and then try and match them to what they are doing. Then we just build up a bank of things that the school suggests and what I suggest and they can do 20 mins of that a few times a week. They make flash cards and we play games/teat one another with them.

So yes we do do some revision right from the get go.

BibbleandSqwauk · 25/05/2024 08:17

Secondary teacher and owner of two teens here. Very very different in their approach to school and work but other than giving them space and every resource they need / ask for I don't get involved unless directly asked. Time and again I've seen students, especially boys, do fuck all out of the classroom until after y11 mocks and then almost without exception they work their arses off for 6 months and do ok..usually bemoaning that they left it so late. But you can't make them. Even you you chain them to the table, if their brain isn't engaged it's not worth it.
I really really disagree with schools starting GCSE syllabi in Y9 unless it's in subjects that are naturally progressive like languages and maths. Summer borns who don't turn 13 until the summer hols are choosing their options at 12.
As to setting, I would hope there's some movement and flexibility at each point so your ds may decide for himself he wants to achieve more to get away from the idiots and the idiots may well improve as they grow.. again, they usually do.

Lotscanchange · 25/05/2024 08:14

Yes, I can see that I’m in danger of going overboard

it’s such a fine line - getting him to fulfil his potential and not being a wanky pushy mum.

sadly, I went to a hugely competitive top private school (he’s in a state school) and it’s almost in my DNA now to push and strive - but im aware of it, hence being here

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Enko · 25/05/2024 08:12

@ChannelyourinnerElsa. Said everything I was going to say.

ChannelyourinnerElsa · 25/05/2024 08:10

I think you’ve gone overboard.

every school year is valuable, but you’ve got him on a revision schedule for 3 years! And then if he does A levels? That’s quite the run of “important” years. I don’t think you’ll increase his desire by pushing so early, I think you risk burning through what enthusiasm and good will he does have.

Jifmicroliquid · 25/05/2024 08:09

Please don’t put pressure on him. If you are like this now, I worry how you will be when he is in year 11.
He’s only in year 8, back off him a bit. Let him get settled into his subjects first.