Page 28 | To think schools should get with the times re working parents.

PerfectTravelTote · 24/05/2024 21:18

To think work should get with the times re school aged parents.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 24/05/2024 21:17

Seashor · 24/05/2024 20:36

Why can’t parents sort their shit out before they have children?

Quite.

small children in school every day from breakfast until bedtime. Why not just out beds in the classrooms too?

why can both parents not request flexible working?

Growlybear83 · 24/05/2024 21:17

I think you're being ridiculous. As others have said, the role of schools is to educate children, not to act as a crèche.

MrsMurphyIWish · 24/05/2024 21:17

working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:13

The staff. More jobs! Horray!

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@working8til4 You need to collaborate with other parents and the school.

After Covid my DC’s primary school was not going to reopen wraparound as they couldn’t pay for the number of staff to support individual bubbles. A few of us parents liaised with the woman who ran the out of hours to have our kids in a bubble of her own. She agreed. When it came to it the school did find the money. You have to be pro-active. It’s tiring I know but there isn’t any other solution currently.

arethereanyleftatall · 24/05/2024 21:16

The problem is men not doing their fair share.
I am absolutely against forcing children to be on the go for 12 hours solid to make up for men's inadequacies.

DaisyHaites · 24/05/2024 21:16

working8til4 · 24/05/2024 20:31

Why can't they be open 8-6 for everyone? It would help reduce gender inequality in the work place

AIBU - DON'T BE SILLY
YANBU - actually you have a point

Start by fixing gender inequality in your house and have your husband do at least half the pickups and drop offs…

School opening times doesn’t impact gender equality, but it might impact the ability to have two full time working parents.

MultiplaLight · 24/05/2024 21:16

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

No one will apply for the job.

As said above, we can't even staff actual school hours, let alone this.

But really, move to an area with wraparound and a cheaper house.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 24/05/2024 21:16

All schools should have wrap around care, it should be very heavily subsidised from government, kids don’t need teaching 8-6.

the bigger childcare problem is anyone needing care before 8am or after 6:30pm - 6:30-7:30pm seems to be an hour no one but a nanny or family cover.

one good thing that came out of the pandemic is now so many jobs are from home (even if just for some days a week), with flexibility about taking your lunch break at 2:45, to walk to school to collect your kids. With being happy someone logs in at 8am rather than 9 then takes a break at 8:30 to go drop kids at school.

Do think if the government does want to address falling birth rates then the price of childcare should be looked at.

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working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:16

Sirzy · 24/05/2024 21:15

which staff? You can’t just drag people in off the street to do it.

schools are having enough trouble recruiting and affording staff for the normal school hours without adding more.

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They wouldn't be teachers. No one wants to be a teacher. Even teachers seem to hate teaching.

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working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:15

Babanafroufrou · 24/05/2024 21:15

And if they also have children??

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They wouldn't apply for that job????

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Sirzy · 24/05/2024 21:15

working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:13

The staff. More jobs! Horray!

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which staff? You can’t just drag people in off the street to do it.

schools are having enough trouble recruiting and affording staff for the normal school hours without adding more.

Babanafroufrou · 24/05/2024 21:15

working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:13

The staff. More jobs! Horray!

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And if they also have children??

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working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:14

MultiplaLight · 24/05/2024 21:13

So you paid all that money for a house you can't really afford without looking into wraparound at schools? Wow.

No. We paid an amount we could afford and met the stress test. Then in case you missed it the mortgage rates went up QUITE A LOT as did the cost of living. And... I DIDN'T HAVE A CHILD WHEN WE BOUGHT IT.

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VivaVivaa · 24/05/2024 21:14

Babanafroufrou · 24/05/2024 21:12

Who is actually staffing the breakfast and after school club?

Generally private companies. Certainly that’s the case where we live.

capelmustard · 24/05/2024 21:14

No. I work in a school where 4 year olds are in from 8am to 6.30pm. A lot of them will do the same hours during the summer holidays.

I feel very strongly that this is not right. Some children cope reasonably well but others really struggle. It's very sad that these children are essentially institutionalised. They only see the world outside the school gates at the weekends, that's not right.

I think the solution is a childminder, at least they would have some semblance of normality for a few hours after school.

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working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:13

Babanafroufrou · 24/05/2024 21:12

Who is actually staffing the breakfast and after school club?

The staff. More jobs! Horray!

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MultiplaLight · 24/05/2024 21:13

So you paid all that money for a house you can't really afford without looking into wraparound at schools? Wow.

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working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:13

niclw · 24/05/2024 21:11

So you expect me as a teacher to look after your child from 8am to 6pm. How am I supposed to collect my own child from school if I'm am babysitting yours? Does my child and my work life balance not matter? Or alternatively you could just use wrap around care like I do. My child attends 7.30am until 5.30pm every day although I could pick up until 6pm.

No I do not. You just carry on doing your job. Why does everyone think I'm on about the same staff covering these extra hours? Bonkers.

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Babanafroufrou · 24/05/2024 21:12

Who is actually staffing the breakfast and after school club?

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working8til4 · 24/05/2024 21:12

MultiplaLight · 24/05/2024 21:06

So you want an AFTER SCHOOL CLUB?

Pick a school with one.

HA. The wrap around around here is virtually non existent.

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niclw · 24/05/2024 21:11

So you expect me as a teacher to look after your child from 8am to 6pm. How am I supposed to collect my own child from school if I'm am babysitting yours? Does my child and my work life balance not matter? Or alternatively you could just use wrap around care like I do. My child attends 7.30am until 5.30pm every day although I could pick up until 6pm.

Pin0cchio · 24/05/2024 21:11

They wouldn't learn anything. There's a point where it just becomes childcare.

Catza · 24/05/2024 21:11

I think schools are already open for far longer than necessary. Personally, I don't remember ever finishing after 1.30 when I was growing up. Of course, it was back in a day when nobody thought twice about kids being able to look after themselves for a few hours.
My mum was a working single parent and I would walk back home, let myself in, fix some lunch and then go visit my friends in the same block of flats or play outside for a few hours before she got home. This was while I was still in primary. My friends did the same if they didn't have a grandparent in situ.

Hopingtobe4 · 24/05/2024 21:10

I wouldn't want my children in a classroom that length of Time but after schools club etc more frequently would.be good. My son isn't at school yet. But I know in my local school nursery can't attend any or breakfast club
Primary 1 also can't attend breakfast club...and only 2 afternoons a week csn they stay late ( to 3pm) won't be at all helpful to us when our son is at school

Hopebridge · 24/05/2024 21:09

The school my children go to have wrap around acre for those that need it.