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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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Dguu6u · 25/05/2024 12:45

He was a bully, good for you to stand up to him. Men think they can just push women off the road and break the rules of the road. You were going right and needed to be in that lane, you don't need to move over when doing the speed limit if that means you'll miss your turn off point. Also you should not be forced to break speed limits. I would have done the same as you.

Fatnold · 25/05/2024 12:34

Shade17 · 25/05/2024 12:32

A single flash whilst travelling at a safe distance behind to say “I am here” is quite acceptable. Normally used when some digbat’s sat in lane 2 of an empty DC travelling at 10mph below the limit.

SHE was in the right hand lane BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING RIGHT.

FFS

Shade17 · 25/05/2024 12:32

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 12:01

This is from the Top gear website about flashing lights, so there was no reason for the twat driver to use them.

A single flash whilst travelling at a safe distance behind to say “I am here” is quite acceptable. Normally used when some digbat’s sat in lane 2 of an empty DC travelling at 10mph below the limit.

TheTrainNowDeparting · 25/05/2024 12:28

Did you keep both hands safely on the steering wheel as you pointed at the signs?

ConfusedKoala13 · 25/05/2024 12:26

Unless you are overtaking or about to get to a roundabout and turn right on which case you can't move in you should always be in the left lane.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 25/05/2024 12:22

This thread really shows off how average people don’t respect speed limit laws. “You shouldn’t police other people’s speed”. Oh okay, well in that case I should keep my mouth shut when I see a shoplifter or pickpocket as well because I wouldn’t want to be a vigilante now would I

Confused No... Feel free to disapprove of people breaking the speed limit. I do too. Trying to 'police' other drivers' speed by disobeying the highway code yourself (e.g. by driving in the wrong lane) is stupid, dangerous and deeply hypocritical. Reporting someone for shoplifting or pickpocketing is not dangerous. Really bad comparison.

Bringbackthebeaver · 25/05/2024 12:18

Herculesthescot · 25/05/2024 12:11

Jesus, you just don’t get it! You were in the wrong. It doesn’t matter what the speed limit is, you dont use the outside lane for a Sunday drive! You were basically causing an obstruction in the overtaking lane.

Just move over!

Well it's not that clear cut is it, because the road was splitting and she had to be in that lane to come off. You can be in the right lane if you need to be because the road is splitting.

The aggressive driver could have just had a tiny ounce of patience to wait until after the fork when she presumably got back into the left.

Fatnold · 25/05/2024 12:15

Herculesthescot · 25/05/2024 12:11

Jesus, you just don’t get it! You were in the wrong. It doesn’t matter what the speed limit is, you dont use the outside lane for a Sunday drive! You were basically causing an obstruction in the overtaking lane.

Just move over!

Flash your lights a lot do you?

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 25/05/2024 12:13

Move out the way.

Herculesthescot · 25/05/2024 12:11

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:03

Loads of people sit in that lane because it’s a feeder lane over a road. Why would you need to overtake of the speed limit us being kept to?

Jesus, you just don’t get it! You were in the wrong. It doesn’t matter what the speed limit is, you dont use the outside lane for a Sunday drive! You were basically causing an obstruction in the overtaking lane.

Just move over!

Bringbackthebeaver · 25/05/2024 12:01

spannered · 25/05/2024 10:46

"Unfortunately there are millions of tossers on the road who thinks they can bully sensible law abiding drivers. Sounds like a lot of them are on Mumsnet."

It's exactly this attitude which leads to road rage incidents! Instead of thinking "oh there's an aggressive asshole driving dangerously close to me, perhaps I should safely manoeuvre away from the hazard" you think "I'm a sensible law abiding driver and I will not be bullied! I will continue to place myself in danger out of principle" 🙄

Yep. Both sides are in the wrong.

OP should have moved when she noticed the aggressive driver (if it was possible/ safe to do so before the turn).

Although, obviously, the aggressive asshole started it. If they had the tiny bit more patience required to wait the couple of seconds until the road split and OP got safely back to the left lane, there would not be an issue.

So I do have quite a lot more sympathy for OP.

Isitovernow123 · 25/05/2024 12:01

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:58

But why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit? We would both be getting off at the same place.

They may have been trying to get to a dying relative or a partner in labour….

Or just being a twat.

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 12:01

This is from the Top gear website about flashing lights, so there was no reason for the twat driver to use them.

To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way
Hoppinggreen · 25/05/2024 11:55

DonnaBanana · 25/05/2024 11:49

This thread really shows off how average people don’t respect speed limit laws. “You shouldn’t police other people’s speed”. Oh okay, well in that case I should keep my mouth shut when I see a shoplifter or pickpocket as well because I wouldn’t want to be a vigilante now would I

I think the point was that you are only responsible for your own driving and you can't make other people drive safely as it may pose a risk to you.
My sdad used to believe he was a volunteer Traffic Officer and if he felt someone was driving incorrectly he would take it upon himself to use his car to "discipline" them by brake checking or similar.
It was bloody dangerous for all concerned.
If you see someone driving badly just get out of the way and let them get on with it. Report to The Police when/if you can do so safely if you want

SmudgeButt · 25/05/2024 11:55

Well I'd say you were wrong but being me I'd also think that if some twonk is inches of my bumper and flashing the lights I'm more likely to slow down than get out of his way.

Unless the flashing lights mean it's a police car of course.

DonnaBanana · 25/05/2024 11:49

This thread really shows off how average people don’t respect speed limit laws. “You shouldn’t police other people’s speed”. Oh okay, well in that case I should keep my mouth shut when I see a shoplifter or pickpocket as well because I wouldn’t want to be a vigilante now would I

Shade17 · 25/05/2024 11:49

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 11:47

The 'speeding driver' flashed the driver because he was a dick to intimateremind her thatas she is driving in the overtaking lane that he thought belonged to him and they would like to overtake the OP to do as he wished.

Edited

A single flash is actually one of the few times it’s actually legitimate to flash your lights. (To be clear, I am not talking about sitting on someone’s arse flashing repeatedly).

Fatnold · 25/05/2024 11:49

EatTheWehrmm · 25/05/2024 11:19

@fromthegecko the op has changed her story multiple times to fit her perogative and make the other driver out to be wrong.

You can't argue with maths because, well it's maths. Based on the op's statements regarding distance and driving speeds, also her DH, She had more than enough time to complete the maneuver. However, she decided she wanted to police the 'speeding driver' putting herself and her DH in a potentially dangerous situation.

Here's my theory...
OP decided to switch to the right lane early as she knew the junction and knew that she would eventually be forking off to the right. The 'speeding driver' approached the op, probably driving the speed limit. Remember the op is cautious of speeding due to past conviction, so is probably going slightly below the limit. The 'speeding driver' flashed the driver to remind her that she is driving in the overtaking lane and they would like to overtake.

The op decided to ignore this as she wants to control the speed limit of everyone else (for some bizarre reason that no one knows.)

The 'speeding driver' gets annoyed because the op is lane hogging and holding up traffic so to prove a point to the op, They purposely speed up and undertake (likely giving op the side eye as they do so) they then pull back in to the right lane as there was plenty of time to do so, confirmed by op's previous comments, and resume to normal driving speed before exiting the junction to the right.

The op has no situational awareness and anyone that agrees with her, is just as bad.

*edited for spelling.

Edited

Or more likely they were a male entitled twat who breaks the speed limit on a daily basis and hates women drivers.

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 11:47

The 'speeding driver' flashed the driver because he was a dick to intimateremind her thatas she is driving in the overtaking lane that he thought belonged to him and they would like to overtake the OP to do as he wished.

spannered · 25/05/2024 11:35

@Canacama I imagine @Zodfa would follow them, wait for them to stop and then perform a citizens arrest 😂

spannered · 25/05/2024 11:29

@Zodfa whenever I'm driving I have my baby in the car. If you want to put yourself and your children in dangers way to prove a point then be my guest.

Waspie · 25/05/2024 11:27

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:58

But why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit? We would both be getting off at the same place.

You were in the overtaking lane whilst not overtaking anything and so you were in the wrong. If the other driver wants to go faster than the speed limit this is up to them, not your issue to police.

From your posts it sounds as though the road was quiet so you should have stayed in the inside lane until a reasonable distance before the road splits. At this point (and there should be road markings and/or signage to indicate this) you pull into the right hand lane.

Canacama · 25/05/2024 11:25

Zodfa · 25/05/2024 11:17

Perhaps it's your kind of attitude that leads to so many people continuing to drive badly. After all nobody ever tries to stop them! The cowardly "nothing to do with me" approach that is so prevalent in our society makes it a lot easier for bullies and lawbreakers to get away with it.

Cowardly? How much am I getting paid to risk mine and my toddlers' safety (particularly them, being in the back seat), to police speeding cars?
I've been rear ended before and was incredibly lucky that the lanes my car was thrown across due to the sheer force were empty and I didn't get hit multiple times.
What about if we make it to traffic lights or heavy traffic and they get out to have it out with me? I don't have a warrant card or any law enforcement privileges, and you're absolutely correct in that I'm not brave/stupid enough to get out and fight!

Everanewbie · 25/05/2024 11:25

spannered · 25/05/2024 10:52

@Everanewbie that's your prerogative, but you have to accept that if you continue to place yourself in a dangerous situation when you could remove yourself, you are contributing to it.

Obviously if you're 100 yards away from your exit it might not be safe to start quickly changing lanes (traffic dependant), but when you're a mile away, it really shouldn't be difficult.

And if the road is busy? Or there isn’t a gap in the inside lane? A proper gap, not a tiny gap that the idiot featured in the OP may dangerously use. The reality is, if OP was driving in the outside lane on a standard dual carriageway with no exits etc on the horizon and stubbornly refused to move left when not overtaking in order to police other road users who may be significantly exceeding the speed limit then she would be unreasonable. But to continue in the correct lane for her desired route less than a mile from the divergence, she was driving as safely as she could in the circumstances.

EatTheWehrmm · 25/05/2024 11:19

@fromthegecko the op has changed her story multiple times to fit her perogative and make the other driver out to be wrong.

You can't argue with maths because, well it's maths. Based on the op's statements regarding distance and driving speeds, also her DH, She had more than enough time to complete the maneuver. However, she decided she wanted to police the 'speeding driver' putting herself and her DH in a potentially dangerous situation.

Here's my theory...
OP decided to switch to the right lane early as she knew the junction and knew that she would eventually be forking off to the right. The 'speeding driver' approached the op, probably driving the speed limit. Remember the op is cautious of speeding due to past conviction, so is probably going slightly below the limit. The 'speeding driver' flashed the driver to remind her that she is driving in the overtaking lane and they would like to overtake.

The op decided to ignore this as she wants to control the speed limit of everyone else (for some bizarre reason that no one knows.)

The 'speeding driver' gets annoyed because the op is lane hogging and holding up traffic so to prove a point to the op, They purposely speed up and undertake (likely giving op the side eye as they do so) they then pull back in to the right lane as there was plenty of time to do so, confirmed by op's previous comments, and resume to normal driving speed before exiting the junction to the right.

The op has no situational awareness and anyone that agrees with her, is just as bad.

*edited for spelling.

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