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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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pootlin · 26/05/2024 14:51

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 13:02

"And we’re tired of saying this. OP’s AIBU wasn’t that she stayed in the right hand lane because her exit was a mile away, that was a convenient drip feed. Her AIB was ‘Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?

She absolutely was trying to police other people’s driving."

She didn't drip feed the info at all, it's in the OP "The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on". As soon as the signage indicates that the lanes split into different roads, the right hand lane stops being for overtaking and becomes a different road. PPs telling her that the aggressive twat had more right to be on the right side than she did, telling her to get the fuck over unless she's overtaking etc are wrong because as soon as the lanes split there is no more space for overtaking on that stretch, you just have to be patient until there is somewhere to overtake safely.

OP wasn't wrong at all. The other driver was 100% in the wrong and is a danger on the road. that is the type of driver who causes accidents.

And I say all this as someone with a heavy foot, I have to make a conscious effort to not speed and dislike middle lane pootlers who make overtaking difficult. But sometimes you have to just be patient and wait your turn, especially when there's only one lane as in the OP, because you're not more entitled to the roads than anyone else.

No, you’ve missed the point, she drip fed later that the exit was a mile away. That info was not in her OP. She said that when the thread wasn’t going her way. Her AIBU was very much “Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?”

unbelievablescenes · 26/05/2024 14:37

There will be an indication on the road of where it's appropriate to sit in that lane in anticipation of where to get in lane for the exit in the form of a get in late sign and/or the while lines getting closer together on the road. If you were beyond this it doesn't matter what speed you're doing, it's fine to be in that lane not overtaking. If you weren't yet at that point, regardless of speed, if not overtaking you should be back in the left lane. On clear dual carriageway, the speed people are going is irrelevant to what lane you should be in. It's fairly plain and simple...not overtaking - left. Overtaking - right. End of.

Kjpt140v · 26/05/2024 14:32

Ah, you're one of them are you.

Caffeineislife · 26/05/2024 14:24

Everyone knows the right hand lane is for crime.

Lulu49 · 26/05/2024 14:21

Often when it's 50 on a major road it's cos there are road works and there are signs saying stay in your lane so if that were the case then you were in the right to stay in that lane.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/05/2024 13:06

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:58

It absolutely was not 10 miles up the road, it was less than a mile.

@P3kingDuck - was there enough time before the road split for you to move back into the left hand lane, then move out again, to go the way you needed to go?

If there was, you should have moved over. If not, then staying in the right hand lane, and driving to the speed limit was acceptable.

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 13:02

"And we’re tired of saying this. OP’s AIBU wasn’t that she stayed in the right hand lane because her exit was a mile away, that was a convenient drip feed. Her AIB was ‘Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?

She absolutely was trying to police other people’s driving."

She didn't drip feed the info at all, it's in the OP "The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on". As soon as the signage indicates that the lanes split into different roads, the right hand lane stops being for overtaking and becomes a different road. PPs telling her that the aggressive twat had more right to be on the right side than she did, telling her to get the fuck over unless she's overtaking etc are wrong because as soon as the lanes split there is no more space for overtaking on that stretch, you just have to be patient until there is somewhere to overtake safely.

OP wasn't wrong at all. The other driver was 100% in the wrong and is a danger on the road. that is the type of driver who causes accidents.

And I say all this as someone with a heavy foot, I have to make a conscious effort to not speed and dislike middle lane pootlers who make overtaking difficult. But sometimes you have to just be patient and wait your turn, especially when there's only one lane as in the OP, because you're not more entitled to the roads than anyone else.

SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 12:19

Still think you should share a screenshot of the road concerned.

P3kingDuck · 26/05/2024 12:04

AnnieSnap · 26/05/2024 12:00

You asked if you were right or wrong. You seem to have moved on in a huff (correct me if I’m wrong). Have you taken on board what people responding to your question?

No I was told to stop arguing so I am no longer posting. I’m pretty sure I also posted that I had taken posts on board. Not that I have to justify anything.

As you were.

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AnnieSnap · 26/05/2024 12:00

P3kingDuck · 26/05/2024 11:50

This^also I posted a looong time ago that I’ve moved on. A gazillion posts saying the same thing after that is a bit pointless( and dull).

You asked if you were right or wrong. You seem to have moved on in a huff (correct me if I’m wrong). Have you taken on board what people responding to your question?

pootlin · 26/05/2024 11:59

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

And we’re tired of saying this. OP’s AIBU wasn’t that she stayed in the right hand lane because her exit was a mile away, that was a convenient drip feed. Her AIB was ‘Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?

She absolutely was trying to police other people’s driving.

shearwater2 · 26/05/2024 11:54

I would just pull over as it's best to just let the Audi dick go and get out of your way. Unless I was nearly at the junction and in the correct lane, or completing an overtaking manoeuvre and it was not safe to pull in, or we are in a set of roadworks where you are mean to stay in lane.

Shade17 · 26/05/2024 11:53

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

Errr, no

P3kingDuck · 26/05/2024 11:50

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

This^also I posted a looong time ago that I’ve moved on. A gazillion posts saying the same thing after that is a bit pointless( and dull).

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SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 11:50

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

I’d personally like to see an annotated Google map of the road concerned.

”less than a mile” could still be far enough away from the split to not warrant being in the right hand lane. Where did the road markings change?

fromthegecko · 26/05/2024 11:47

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

But the right lane is only for overtaking. End of!

(Only kidding.)

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

Bugbabe1970 · 26/05/2024 11:34

just Pull over - if they want to break the speed limit it’s up to them!
The right hand lane is for over taking so yes you were in the wrong!

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

Bugbabe1970 · 26/05/2024 11:34

just Pull over - if they want to break the speed limit it’s up to them!
The right hand lane is for over taking so yes you were in the wrong!

Flozle · 26/05/2024 11:24

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:27

It’s confusing because everybody sits in that right hand lane due to where it’s going .

It's not confusing OP: they are also wrong. Until the road markings indicate that the lane is specifically intended to exit the carriageway you stay in the left hand lane. I imagine he was so irate because you were hogging the overtaking lane.

Sirzy · 26/05/2024 11:21

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

A dual carriageway is a road where the two carriageways are physically separated. It has nothing to do with speed or number of lanes

SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 11:19

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

No they aren’t. 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/multi-lane-carriageways.html

Multi-lane carriageways (133 to 143)

If you need to change lane, first use your mirrors and if necessary take a quick sideways glance to make sure you will not force another road user to change course or speed.

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/multi-lane-carriageways.html

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

Shade17 · 26/05/2024 08:43

WTF are you on about? Also, DCs can have one, two or more lanes.

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

WomanMumLoverDaughterStepmumFriend · 26/05/2024 11:02

Babyboomtastic · 26/05/2024 08:01

if a car had to undertake even if it temporarily slipped over the speed limit, they'd still pull the road Hogger first.

Why would a car HAVE to undertake if the OP was doing the speed limit? They may hard down to do so, and therefore to break the speed law, but that doesn't make it necessary or legal for them to do it.

There are a few reasons and cars are allowed to go over the speed limit to safely overtake . One of the best reasons is if the driver ahead of you doesn’t drive safely . I do roughly 30000 a year driving and there is nothing more dangerous than going behind a car that breaks all the time as a example or at every cornering ,they are also normally those hogging lines and getting upset for being overtaken despite their ability to drive being awful . The road is not ours individually, if people want to overtake let them . Do not put yourself in a position to cause an accident . That
is how motorway pile ups happen

Rottweilermummy · 26/05/2024 08:58

It's none of our business to control other people's speed, I say let them get a ticket and best to be 5 mins slower in this life than 10 earlier in next, 🤣 But u should have pulled over right lane is afor overtaking

OldPerson · 26/05/2024 08:51

Yalta · 26/05/2024 06:27

Apart from when the road is splitting off and you don’t want to go to the left lane destinations

personally I would have stayed doing the speed limit until just before the speed camera and then pulled to the left
The flash of the speed camera would have made it satisfying

A car is supposed to take you from A to B. Unfortunately human beings with stupid egos and trying to get one-up-manship drive these vehicles. You may have big powerful vehicles to drive you around with the potential to kill people - but once you've enraged someone, what have you really achieved? Just a more stupid, enraged, angry person on the road. Did you cure their stupidity? Did you make the road safer? Do you not think they can clock up speeding points and reckless driving points all by themselves? Do you not think every car crash full of dead teenagers are the probably the same a-holes flashing you to feel their power?