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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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Bagwyllydiart · 25/05/2024 07:08

You need to surrender your license.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:07

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 25/05/2024 07:04

You seem to give several reasons why the other driver was in the wrong, but them being in the wrong does not mean you were in the right. Neither does the fact that lots of other people sit in that land before they need to be there. Just because others break the rules it doesn't give you permission to.

We can only be responsible for our own driving, not for other people's. Very often when accidents occur it is because both parties have done something wrong at the same time. Your job is to reduce the possibility that your driving will contribute to an accident.

Unless you had got to the point where you needed to be in the feeder lane in order to go the direction you wanted (which it sounds like you hadn't), you should only have been there for overtaking, regardless of whether you were travelling at the speed limit. And the fact that someone is breaking the speed limit does not give you licence to ignore your own responsibilities.

Exactly this.

Nouvellenovel · 25/05/2024 07:07

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:06

@P3kingDuck you've clearly decided you were right and come on MN as some sort of driving excellence saint.

Tbf most pp’s on here think they’re the oracle on driving etiquette.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:06

ScroogeMcDuckling · 25/05/2024 07:03

You should always stay in the inside lane, unless overtaking.

They are looking at prosecuting “lane hoggers”

Once you see the sign telling you about the flyover, then get ready to go in to the correct lane for the flyover.

The sooner they do that the better!

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:06

@P3kingDuck you've clearly decided you were right and come on MN as some sort of driving excellence saint.

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 25/05/2024 07:04

You seem to give several reasons why the other driver was in the wrong, but them being in the wrong does not mean you were in the right. Neither does the fact that lots of other people sit in that land before they need to be there. Just because others break the rules it doesn't give you permission to.

We can only be responsible for our own driving, not for other people's. Very often when accidents occur it is because both parties have done something wrong at the same time. Your job is to reduce the possibility that your driving will contribute to an accident.

Unless you had got to the point where you needed to be in the feeder lane in order to go the direction you wanted (which it sounds like you hadn't), you should only have been there for overtaking, regardless of whether you were travelling at the speed limit. And the fact that someone is breaking the speed limit does not give you licence to ignore your own responsibilities.

ScroogeMcDuckling · 25/05/2024 07:03

You should always stay in the inside lane, unless overtaking.

They are looking at prosecuting “lane hoggers”

Once you see the sign telling you about the flyover, then get ready to go in to the correct lane for the flyover.

Purplecatshopaholic · 25/05/2024 07:03

Nope, you were being a dick. As was he, but why rise to the bait.

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P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 07:02

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:59

@P3kingDuck oh your speeding was breaking the law, but it was ok really? Not too bad, you were unlucky? Lots of people were?

That's ok then!

Different type of speeding and breaking the law, so you can decide to stay in the wrong lane as well? Anything else you're allowed to do?

I said quite the reverse actually. Any speeding isn’t great but I have never had any driving conviction and I’m vigilant now. I would have had to go over the limit to pull safely in front of the cars on the left.

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Tel12 · 25/05/2024 07:01

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:58

But why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit? We would both be getting off at the same place.

Because you are not the police

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:59

@P3kingDuck oh your speeding was breaking the law, but it was ok really? Not too bad, you were unlucky? Lots of people were?

That's ok then!

Different type of speeding and breaking the law, so you can decide to stay in the wrong lane as well? Anything else you're allowed to do?

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P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:58

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:54

@P3kingDuck be intent on driving correctly, in the left hand lane unless overtaking or leaving the road imminently! Not ten miles up the road.

It absolutely was not 10 miles up the road, it was less than a mile.

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P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:57

Also I have never had a conviction for anything or points on my license. A speed awareness course is not classed as a driving conviction . I have also never had an accident in 35 years of driving.

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Nanaof1 · 25/05/2024 06:57

Equivo · 25/05/2024 05:20

Have you really never seen an idiot pull a dangerous manoeuvre just before a slip road/ road splitting? Just because someone who clearly had no interest in following the laws of the road managed to complete the manoeuvre doesn't mean you, who was not there, know what the distance was.

I have seen people pull this kind of move literally on a slip road.

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I don't care what you've "seen". To be a "mile away" from your exit and have that kind of long interaction to be flashed, pointing at the speed limit signs etc. shows me that it was more than "way under a mile".

I am using that little used sense, that I proudly own, called common sense. Too bad it isn't so common these days. 😆🙄

Supersoakers · 25/05/2024 06:57

That driver behind you was driving dangerously tailgating and flashing etc. Safest thing would have been to pull over and let him past rather than sticking to the lane on principle but he was the more dangerous driver by far.

Buffypaws · 25/05/2024 06:57

If OP did a speed awareness course then she will not have been convicted of anything. Unless she went speeding again afterwards.
I’ve done four of those fucking courses, most recently this Tuesday.
sounds like OP was in the correct lane if she had less than a mile to the split. And was driving the speed limit. This was just an aggressive driver. Excessive lane changing can slow traffic.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:55

Cass116 · 25/05/2024 06:53

I bet you’re one of those middle lane hoggers 🙄🙄🙄

Clearly! But I'm doing the speed limit and you can just wait behind me!

Chocolateorange22 · 25/05/2024 06:55

I get where you are coming from with it's the speed limit so people should be adhering to it. However in reality most people don't. I'd have just kept in and let everyone do their own thing, if they get caught then it's their business and just move out when on top of the junction.

I ended up on a speed awareness course by trying to get out of the way of people swapping and changing lanes on a motorway (lots of off and on, splits within a couple of short junctions). Didn't pay attention and got caught doing 78mph. I now drive within the speed limits so I can totally understand your frustration at not getting caught again.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:54

@P3kingDuck be intent on driving correctly, in the left hand lane unless overtaking or leaving the road imminently! Not ten miles up the road.

Cass116 · 25/05/2024 06:53

I bet you’re one of those middle lane hoggers 🙄🙄🙄

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:53

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:49

I probably am the best driver ever, all drivers on here are perfect, I love a good driving thread, everyone always knows exactly what was going on, nobody ever speeds apart from the OP, everyone has perfect lane discipline.

Only if they're towing caravans surely?

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:52

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:41

She may not have known if they had cut someone up, hopefully she had her eyes on what she was doing rather than what had been going on behind her with other drivers maybe cutting others up. Those speeding types are usually the ones that cross lanes at the last minute for a junction regardless of others on the road so regularly cut people up so it's their normal driving usually.

A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs.

OP does lie to interact with people behind her!

You're right, you'd hope she'd be concentrating on the road ahead?

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:51

I didn't mean you cutting people up OP, I meant the speeding driver that undertook you may have cut someone up doing that manoeuvre.

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P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:49

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:34

@BobnLen we know that OP has a previous speeding conviction, we know that she was intent on slowing the other driver down, we know that she indicated to the driver behind her that the speed was 50, we know that she was intent on making the other driver look like a bad driver, we know that she informed us that the other driver sped off, but then slowed down, so she's trying to put them in a bad light.

Do you not think she would've mentioned if they'd have cut someone up 🤔!

I think so, don't you?

I'm not sure that towing a caravan has any relevance to how people on MN drive, not sure of the correlation there.

I absolutely did not cut anybody up and re the speeding ticket I was slightly over 30 in a 30 mph zone. Not great but it was some time ago, in a known spot( several others were on the course for the same spot) and I’ve been vigilant since. I wasn’t intent on slowing the driver down I was intent on staying in the right lane to get off and keeping to the right speed

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BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:49

I probably am the best driver ever, all drivers on here are perfect, I love a good driving thread, everyone always knows exactly what was going on, nobody ever speeds apart from the OP, everyone has perfect lane discipline.