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help with mobility car and multiple disabled children

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Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 13:34

how do others use it esp with multiple disabled children. I am thinking of getting one as my eldest has complex needs and is in receipt of enhanced Pip. I am aware I can use it to commute to work and shopping as this will benefit my eldest. My younger one is on DLA but not on high rate mobility (only middle rate care and low rate mob). I was told that I wouldn't be able to use the car for hospital appointments for them for example. Which makes sense on a certain level.

I cannot be the only parent with more than one disabled child. How do you work around such things. Do you still take the car? or do you take the bus on those occasions? What about if I have e.g. a hospital appointment for myself? Do I need to take the bus or the bike?

My old car is dying and I cannot afford to replace it at the moment but we really need one. A mobility car would have been the perfect solution but I now question if it's worth it I cannot use it for high numbers of journeys and if I am better saving up for a replacement vehicle. help

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Mrsjayy · 24/05/2024 17:11

I'd use the money to buy a car it's essentially for the kids and family to get around. I know you can buy a mobility car rather than leasing but I think the upfront fees are high.

AGlinnerOfHope · 24/05/2024 17:07

Does your child have a social worker you could check with? Or an advice worker at the school?

Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 17:07

Boomer55 · 24/05/2024 16:52

Phone Motability and talk it over with them.

I did and was a bit taken aback. Hence my post but it looks like the man I spoke to was right and I indeed cannot use it for my younger disabled child.

I will leave it I think. Doesn't sound like it's right for us and I need it a lot for the younger sibling too so would not wanna risk getting into trouble. Real shame though as my current car is 15 years old and reparations are costing a fortune and it won't get through the next MOT. Will just have to cope without one for a while and save up. But at least I can be sure I don't commit fraud. I do black and white well but struggle with grey 🙈 I wish I was more laid back. I think I was hoping people would tell me the info was incorrect.

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AGlinnerOfHope · 24/05/2024 17:06

this is intended to stop people taking advantage of the scheme and monopolising the motability car without benefiting the entitled person. It’s not about the family car.

Stop at a shop on the way home. Use the car so you will be back in time to meet him off the bus etc.
It isn’t you they are trying to catch out.

Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 16:59

Mrsjayy · 24/05/2024 16:56

That's terrible have you been refused can you appeal? I know in the grand scheme of things and your life an appeal might be too much to do but I don't see how a severely autistic child can be seen as having an invisible disability!

we tried. twice, even with MP involved it was a no. We are ok without BB. we managed for the past 16 years and will cope moving forward. It's not a big issue on the greater scale of things.

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Mrsjayy · 24/05/2024 16:58

Mrsjayy · 24/05/2024 16:56

That's terrible have you been refused can you appeal? I know in the grand scheme of things and your life an appeal might be too much to do but I don't see how a severely autistic child can be seen as having an invisible disability!

I didn't read properly I see you appealed that awful and so discrumatory.

Mrsjayy · 24/05/2024 16:56

Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 14:57

we get mobility for severe learning disabilities and autism. It's not an automatic BB on that route and my LA doesn't give out BBs for invisible disabilities. Tried twice even with appeal I got nowhere.

That's terrible have you been refused can you appeal? I know in the grand scheme of things and your life an appeal might be too much to do but I don't see how a severely autistic child can be seen as having an invisible disability!

Mrsjayy · 24/05/2024 16:53

Stylishcooncil · 24/05/2024 16:36

The rules surrounding use of motability cars are different when the car is for a child as it can be used as the family car.

I had a mobility car that dh used for work this was allowed and we used it as a family car we did ask what was permissable at the time, although it's been decades so rules may have changed.

Ratfinkstinkypink · 24/05/2024 16:52

Using the car means you would be able to respond much more quickly if your other child needs you than you would on public transport. I have a motability vehicle for my little one and I have my own car but only because I don't want to be parking his vehicle up in a non blue badge space when he's not with me (He has a VW Crafter and it is huge) but the disadvantage is if he's unwell at school I have to go home to collect his car before I can go and get him.

Boomer55 · 24/05/2024 16:52

Phone Motability and talk it over with them.

CatSucker · 24/05/2024 16:49

Get the motorbility car OP. It sounds like it would really help your family. No one will be checking on your usual journeys.

TigerRag · 24/05/2024 16:47

Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 14:57

we get mobility for severe learning disabilities and autism. It's not an automatic BB on that route and my LA doesn't give out BBs for invisible disabilities. Tried twice even with appeal I got nowhere.

When did you apply? The rules changed in 2019 so that some of us with invisible disabilities could qualify.

ohtowinthelottery · 24/05/2024 16:44

I've had multiple Motability cars over the years for my DD from when she was 5. I used it as my main family car. No one ever queried it. If I'd needed to justify it I would have just said that I was on 24/7 call for DD and it would not be beneficial if I had to return home to get 'her' car first.

I think Motability tightened the published rules years ago when it was found that some people were effectively giving their cars to family members who lived at other addresses. But I know lots of people with Motability vehicles and they have all used them as family cars.

Stylishcooncil · 24/05/2024 16:36

The rules surrounding use of motability cars are different when the car is for a child as it can be used as the family car.

x2boys · 24/05/2024 16:34

Mrsttcno1 · 24/05/2024 15:07

There’s lots of people on here saying they just use it as a family car, “who will know”, but the reality (and legally where you stand) is that doing that is NOT allowed. Yes, you might be absolutely fine and never get caught doing that, but if you are to be caught then you are in trouble and I know of 2 people personally who have been caught out with this. I wouldn’t risk it myself.

Actually it is allowed very similar thread a couple of weeks ago with people giving out wrong info all.over the place mobility don't expect you to mess aroun d on buses when there is a car at your disposal.

x2boys · 24/05/2024 16:28

Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 13:34

how do others use it esp with multiple disabled children. I am thinking of getting one as my eldest has complex needs and is in receipt of enhanced Pip. I am aware I can use it to commute to work and shopping as this will benefit my eldest. My younger one is on DLA but not on high rate mobility (only middle rate care and low rate mob). I was told that I wouldn't be able to use the car for hospital appointments for them for example. Which makes sense on a certain level.

I cannot be the only parent with more than one disabled child. How do you work around such things. Do you still take the car? or do you take the bus on those occasions? What about if I have e.g. a hospital appointment for myself? Do I need to take the bus or the bike?

My old car is dying and I cannot afford to replace it at the moment but we really need one. A mobility car would have been the perfect solution but I now question if it's worth it I cannot use it for high numbers of journeys and if I am better saving up for a replacement vehicle. help

We use it as our family car ,most people do they expect you to.

Nat6999 · 24/05/2024 16:24

Just use it as your family car, there isn't anyone checking up where you have been, as long as you don't do over 20k miles a year you have no worries. The rules you are worrying about are more for blue badge use.

WitchyBits · 24/05/2024 16:19

Get the car and on the way home from a hospital appointment so the food shopping or get the prescriptions for your "most" disabled kiddo. That journey still begets them. I've had a notability car for 9 years and nobody has ever checked or asked about my journeys. Not even when I've had a minor bump .

LoveSandbanks · 24/05/2024 15:29

You use the car. What benefits you, benefits your children. There are people driving motability cars that don’t even live at the same address as the disabled person. As long as the car is used for the benefit of the disabled person it doesn’t matter what else you’re using it for (with the exception of using it as a taxi or other business).

Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 15:24

RainbowZebraWarrior · 24/05/2024 15:18

Did your son not get 10 or more points for Planning and following a journey? (Usually given if one is unable to do this unaided / would leave them in severe distress)

If so, that is automatic entitlement to a blue badge under govt rules.

That is specifically for descriptor E (psychological distress). We got 12 point under descriptor F (which gets you more points but it doesn't come with an automatic BB entitlement).

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RainbowZebraWarrior · 24/05/2024 15:18

Goslingsforlife · 24/05/2024 14:57

we get mobility for severe learning disabilities and autism. It's not an automatic BB on that route and my LA doesn't give out BBs for invisible disabilities. Tried twice even with appeal I got nowhere.

Did your son not get 10 or more points for Planning and following a journey? (Usually given if one is unable to do this unaided / would leave them in severe distress)

If so, that is automatic entitlement to a blue badge under govt rules.

help with mobility car and multiple disabled children
WakeMeUpWhenItsAllOverPlease · 24/05/2024 15:16

EnglishBluebell · 24/05/2024 14:59

@Goslingsforlife Usually getting enhanced pip means an automatic eligibility for a BB. It was for me anyway

It wasn't for my friends autistic daughter. I know a few people who don't qualify even though they have enhanced mobility on PIP

TheDrunkenClam · 24/05/2024 15:15

It is fine to use the car for hospital appointments for 2nd dc.
Motability would not deny a claim under the insurance in these circumstances.
The website specifically states:
Your vehicle needs to be used by the disabled customer or for their benefit.
This does not mean they need to be in the vehicle for every journey.

It means other drivers in the same home can use the vehicle for:

  • Shopping
  • Visiting family
  • Other routine activities

I worked in the claims department for many years and a claim would never be refuted on this basis!

Mrsttcno1 · 24/05/2024 15:07

There’s lots of people on here saying they just use it as a family car, “who will know”, but the reality (and legally where you stand) is that doing that is NOT allowed. Yes, you might be absolutely fine and never get caught doing that, but if you are to be caught then you are in trouble and I know of 2 people personally who have been caught out with this. I wouldn’t risk it myself.

loudbatperson · 24/05/2024 15:06

But doesn't it work out at costing you over £300 a month.

You have a car already so must be paying maintainable, tax and insurance anyway.

You could probably easily get a lease deal, pay for the tax, service, maintainence and insurance for not much more than you will lose in PIP.

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