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Paula Vennels being questioned at the Post Office Inquiry, followed by others - thread 2

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nauticant · 24/05/2024 09:29

A continuation of the discussion started by@Sausagenbaconhere:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5080262-to-enjoy-hearing-paula-vennels-being-taken-apart

Paula Vennells' 3 days of evidence ends today but there are more hearings coming up and we can discuss those too.

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

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DanielGault · 06/06/2024 12:44

Cheeky cow.

DanielGault · 06/06/2024 12:41

I dunno why anyone bothered sending her emails 🙄

nauticant · 06/06/2024 12:40

If it helps SparksFlyUpward, you caught the real highlight of two days of evidence.

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SparksFlyUpward · 06/06/2024 12:38

I haven't been able to watch the last few days but came in about half an hour ago.

Bloody hell, she is utterly shameless isn't she. Emails littered with the smoking guns of cosy relationships with Mark Davies and her contact at the BBC. But nothing to see here.

DanielGault · 06/06/2024 12:37

Very pregnant pause there 😬

Sceptic1234 · 06/06/2024 12:32

It may well be just me, but I think we saw the Jason Beer strategy here. Start off by letting them talk. Witnesses come with pre prepared and rehearsed answers, so just let them speak and trot them all out.

Eventually they run out of prepared bull shit and have nothing left to say. Once that happens, hit them with direct questions about things like why did you arrange a job for someone who worked for your husband, why did you use personal / political contacts to try andinfluence BBC?

Refusing to cooperate with TV investigation, and then complaining that the programme was one sided is certainly imaginative.

nauticant · 06/06/2024 12:28

One thing that wasn't covered was Vennells doing AP's dirty work by getting mention of the Horizon-related risk removed from the Royal Mail flotation prospectus.

Maybe it's been agreed to be raised by counsel in the next round.

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PerkingFaintly · 06/06/2024 12:24

nauticant · 06/06/2024 12:16

AP is badly on the hook here but she knows she cannot retreat from answering. Normally she'd be able to say that it was all beneath her being something for the executive, but it's got Mark Davies all over it, and Mark Davies is her and her husband's placeman and creature. With whom AP is wrongly actively in conspiratorially contact with.

Yes, absolutely.

PerkingFaintly · 06/06/2024 12:24

DanielGault · 06/06/2024 12:22

Cringe 😬

Yes, that was my reaction too!

Lunde · 06/06/2024 12:24

I wonder which barrister is up next?

DanielGault · 06/06/2024 12:22

Cringe 😬

nauticant · 06/06/2024 12:20

JB making brutal sport with an extraordinary email from Mark Davies. What an ending to his cross-examination!

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nauticant · 06/06/2024 12:16

AP is badly on the hook here but she knows she cannot retreat from answering. Normally she'd be able to say that it was all beneath her being something for the executive, but it's got Mark Davies all over it, and Mark Davies is her and her husband's placeman and creature. With whom AP is wrongly actively in conspiratorially contact with.

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DanielGault · 06/06/2024 12:10

nauticant · 06/06/2024 12:09

Very very dodgy back door meddling at the BBC here at the time when Post Office were alarmed about a Panorama episode. This is where the Mark Davies-Jack Straw connection was proving its value. AP is being utterly dishonest here because she knows she cannot admit to the truth.

I think this is the part of 2 days of AP evidence that the media will latch on to.

It's all really murky isn't it!

nauticant · 06/06/2024 12:09

Very very dodgy back door meddling at the BBC here at the time when Post Office were alarmed about a Panorama episode. This is where the Mark Davies-Jack Straw connection was proving its value. AP is being utterly dishonest here because she knows she cannot admit to the truth.

I think this is the part of 2 days of AP evidence that the media will latch on to.

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Sceptic1234 · 06/06/2024 12:09

"I did sometimes have bilateral conversations...."

Is this woman on drugs.....what bizarre language.

Quebeccles · 06/06/2024 12:01

AP is massively over-explaining this. Bang to rights. Sure as hell it was 'too cosy'.

PerkingFaintly · 06/06/2024 12:01

AP: I don't think I knew that at the time.
Beer: You clearly did, because here's your name on the email chain.
AP: Oh, OK.

Sceptic1234 · 06/06/2024 11:59

Jesus... she thought putting Mark Davies' name forward may look too cosy, then thought "no, that's silly".

Complete and utter lack of awareness...

Peregrina · 06/06/2024 11:58

I do like JB's choice of words - a cosy stitch up.

nauticant · 06/06/2024 11:56

Ah. AP put Mark Davies forward for the job. Because he was so good.

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DanielGault · 06/06/2024 11:55

Jobs for the boys!

Lunde · 06/06/2024 11:52

So the PO in the Horizon scandal is

  • the "victim"
  • the investigator
  • the prosecutor

.... and now trying to hijack the "mediation scheme" meant to resolve issues between PO and spms

nauticant · 06/06/2024 11:48

JB: my last topic, the role of Mark Davies.

Ooh!

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DanielGault · 06/06/2024 11:45

Peregrina · 06/06/2024 11:44

re the election!

Wasn't that the time of Fixed Parliaments? So talk of an election is hogwash.

Yes, just looked it up and the Act was passed in 2011.

We subsequently found that there were ways round the Act, but that didn't really come into play until after the 2015 election. And she is married to a long time politician.

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Well he just caught her out re the timing anyway. But what a thing to put in writing.