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Paula Vennels being questioned at the Post Office Inquiry, followed by others - thread 2

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nauticant · 24/05/2024 09:29

A continuation of the discussion started by@Sausagenbaconhere:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5080262-to-enjoy-hearing-paula-vennels-being-taken-apart

Paula Vennells' 3 days of evidence ends today but there are more hearings coming up and we can discuss those too.

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 11:45

AP on responding to evidence of her pushing the line of no faults in Horizon: "I was prepared to lift the rock and look at what was underneath it."

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Lunde · 05/06/2024 11:37

AP not as devious as PV. They have got AP via notes in her own handwriting whereas PV was always briefed verbally and thereafter suffered amnesia

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 11:36

I think what's happening here is JB is giving AP opportunities to throw PV under the bus while claiming to be led into error by bad people, and this will turn into showing that AP had been active in some of the bad stuff that happened later on.

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 11:32

Ahh, we're now getting into the cosy relationship AP had with PV. Which lies at the heart of a lot of the mischief.

JB highlighting that it was cosy enough for many of the briefings to have occurred only verbally and not recorded. AP actually confirmed this.

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minou123 · 05/06/2024 11:29

I'm not able to watch it now because I have to work (boooo)

But all your c9mmrnts have me very much intrigued on what she is saying. I may need to have a long lunch 🤔

PerkingFaintly · 05/06/2024 11:28

They're gonna have that alarm go off again any moment, 'cos her pants are in big red flames.

PerkingFaintly · 05/06/2024 11:26

My god, this woman could lie through a six-inch plank.

Quirkyme · 05/06/2024 11:25

"I don't know what was in my mind when I said that"

This woman is full of shite 🤣

Beer can't even hide it in his voice.

How foolish she is

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 11:23

Flat denial from AP that she was a promoter of the "there's nothing wrong with Horizon" line. Even when presented with evidence that she was. She's reinvented her position into one where she had an open mind and facilitated the truth being uncovered. And seemingly now believes this.

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Peregrina · 05/06/2024 11:19

I have the sub titles on. They are being done on the hoof - some are quite entertaining: Lord our bus North, for one!

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 11:08

11.10.

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Quirkyme · 05/06/2024 11:07

I was in the kitchen and returned to see it's on break, when they back?

PerkingFaintly · 05/06/2024 11:05

nauticant · 05/06/2024 10:32

Her account of the relationship between Post Offices and Fujitsu rings completely true to me. It might be her high point in terms of giving honest testimony.

Yes, and she's also revealed she knows exactly what the problems of IT procurement from private contractors are.

Further undermining her pretence that "Oooh, big computer stuff, I didn't have any feel for that."

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 10:46

Sir Wyn Williams asked about the date of the review document and Jason Beer's immediate account of the version history was amazing for something off the top of his head.

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 10:43

Jason Beer KC did highlight that and lingered on it momentarily.

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Quebeccles · 05/06/2024 10:41

BTW, it really does seem to be true that the PO slogan, as printed in AP's official notebook, was We do not see things as they are, we see them as we are!

Ouch.

Lunde · 05/06/2024 10:39

A bit unfair to ask her what was going on in PV's head .... who knows if anything went on PV's head

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 10:39

Jason Beer JC asked whether she gladly accepted reassurances if they came from inside the company. That got an indignant denial from AP. Looks like that suggestion did sting.

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Sceptic1234 · 05/06/2024 10:37

Peregrina · 05/06/2024 10:35

Now throwing Paula under the bus.

Its mutual..

Thanks to Vennels' behaviour, she will have absolutely not one shred of loyalty left.

Peregrina · 05/06/2024 10:35

Now throwing Paula under the bus.

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nauticant · 05/06/2024 10:32

Her account of the relationship between Post Offices and Fujitsu rings completely true to me. It might be her high point in terms of giving honest testimony.

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Sceptic1234 · 05/06/2024 10:32

Peregrina · 05/06/2024 10:30

No she didn't read Private Eye, but someone in the PO should have been scouring the Press for mentions of the PO and drawing it to someone's attention.

Sorry, this doesn't wash.

The PO director of communications worked for Jack Straw. A labour party coms director doesn't know what's in Private Eye?? Bollocks.

Didn't tell his boss, who in turn didn't tell his wife????

Quebeccles · 05/06/2024 10:30

'Too naive' is the new 'I was too trusting'

Peregrina · 05/06/2024 10:30

No she didn't read Private Eye, but someone in the PO should have been scouring the Press for mentions of the PO and drawing it to someone's attention.

Sorry, this doesn't wash.

Sceptic1234 · 05/06/2024 10:29

I think the first day will just be Jason Beer letting her trot out all of her rehearsed bullshit answers. Let her talk as much as she wants for as long as she wants. Eventually she'll run out of things to say, then he can really start asking her challenging questions.