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BeverForget · 2024-05-23T21:09:04+00:00

I work in food supply chain. Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two. This happened in Feb 2020 as well. Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos. And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of. There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election. So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

Mrsdyna · 26/05/2024 07:24

Missmuffin1984 · 26/05/2024 07:19

I’m so tired of people rubbishing any sort of critical thinking as paranoia, you literally work in the food supply chain, you’re telling us what you have been instructed AND you’re saying the same happened in 2020. Context, experience and hindsight.
No you’re not being paranoid, yes we are being prepared for something but I don’t feel comfortable airing my thoughts on MN 😂

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What are your thoughts?

Not everyone on Mumsnet just laughs at people's opinions.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 07:23

Onionskins78 · 25/05/2024 07:25

Mmmm. The situation has changed now though hasn’t it.

I think the monarchy and the House of Lords should be abolished and an entire new system put in place but the trouble atm is that some members of the House of Lords are the only people atm taking their jobs seriously and scrutinising legislation properly and making technical amendments, which is what the members of the House of Commons should be doing, when the majority of them are incompetent and spend their time grandstanding for the media.

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Yes, we need a technical second chamber with requisite expertise

Missmuffin1984 · 26/05/2024 07:19

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:21

It isn't that stupid a concept.
This is what happened in food supply in 2020.

I’m so tired of people rubbishing any sort of critical thinking as paranoia, you literally work in the food supply chain, you’re telling us what you have been instructed AND you’re saying the same happened in 2020. Context, experience and hindsight.
No you’re not being paranoid, yes we are being prepared for something but I don’t feel comfortable airing my thoughts on MN 😂

Mrsdyna · 26/05/2024 07:13

Bjorkdidit · 26/05/2024 07:01

No, people need to stop dropping litter. Some street litter might be accidental but that on roadside verges and in the countryside isn't. People throw it from cars or just drop it.

And prevention is better than cure. Why should councils spend millions picking it up when people could just not drop it in the first place?

Young people shouldn't be forced.

It's like saying let's force pensioners to pick it up.

Volunteer groups would be better.

Bjorkdidit · 26/05/2024 07:01

No, people need to stop dropping litter. Some street litter might be accidental but that on roadside verges and in the countryside isn't. People throw it from cars or just drop it.

And prevention is better than cure. Why should councils spend millions picking it up when people could just not drop it in the first place?

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 06:46

Bjorkdidit · 26/05/2024 06:04

We could get them litter picking.

The amount of litter in this country is a disgrace and if it became the norm that everyone spent a few weekends in their youth picking it up then people might stop dropping it all over the place.

Or we could go back to properly funded councils who have enough money to clean the streets.

Almost all street litter is accidental - blown from bins, spilt etc.

Why should young people be made to clear up other people's mess.

You could set up a volunteers group any time you wanted.

Mrsdyna · 26/05/2024 06:40

dontcryformeargentina · 26/05/2024 06:30

As soon as there is a risk for my child to be used as a potential cannon fodder, I'll be out of this country.

Indeed, I am not letting them use my children.

SaltyLemons · 26/05/2024 06:38

"Citizenship comes with obligations" he says. Forgetting to add "just not ours to you"

SaltyLemons · 26/05/2024 06:37

dontcryformeargentina · 26/05/2024 06:30

As soon as there is a risk for my child to be used as a potential cannon fodder, I'll be out of this country.

Yep the timing of this announcement is inevitable going to make it feel like this is what it's for

dontcryformeargentina · 26/05/2024 06:30

As soon as there is a risk for my child to be used as a potential cannon fodder, I'll be out of this country.

crumblingschools · 26/05/2024 06:27

@SaltyLemons I assume if they still live here they won’t do it either as more than likely will go to university

SaltyLemons · 26/05/2024 06:22

Btw, Rishi's kids won't be forced to do it as they'll be whisked off to the US the minute he's out of office

Bjorkdidit · 26/05/2024 06:04

We could get them litter picking.

The amount of litter in this country is a disgrace and if it became the norm that everyone spent a few weekends in their youth picking it up then people might stop dropping it all over the place.

SaltyLemons · 26/05/2024 06:01

The problem with a national service scheme in the current context is that it looks like cannon fodder recruitment rather than a genuine opportunity for young people. Why is it only being discussed seriously now that we are in a new Cold War? Hardly makes it something to get behind.

I also think any non-voluntary scheme is anti-democratic. It won't suit all young people. Voluntary opportunities to service the community (or armed forces if that's your bag) is one thing but forced conscription? Iffy

Whenwillitgetwarm · 26/05/2024 04:57

Sunak’s probably lining up his FILs business, Infosys to be awarded a massive tax payer funded contract to help implement his ‘volunteering’ scheme.

marie3e · 26/05/2024 04:32

I wouldn't want to be in an ambulance with a teenager getting forced to help me

sheoaouhra · 26/05/2024 04:26

Igotjelly · 25/05/2024 22:50

And in fact reading about it (noting I hate the Tories) it’s a great idea. Doesn’t necessarily need to be military service, can also take the form of supporting the emergency services.

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As if the emergency services have the time and money to support and supervise a sudden influx of unskilled 18 years olds who will need training, mentoring, supporting, and finding something to do!

SashaPicklepops · 26/05/2024 03:43

Tbh I think you are right about something being afoot. We are having bigger investments in our military, being told to stockpile 3 days food, wars in Ukraine and Gaza, of course the cogs that turn to keep the country going will be the first to know, food, water, transport, medical supplies and Military equipment are being prepared for a reason, we just haven't been told yet.

Piecesofpaperagain · 26/05/2024 02:29

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 01:35

Times are a little bit different now.

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Seventy-two baps, Connie. You'll slice, I'll spread.

Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 02:23

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 01:23

Let me clear that up for you. I think it’s a good idea. I would also have no problem whatsoever in doing it if it came to it, and I already undertake hours of volunteering a week on top of a FT job.

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Good for you but no one is forcing you to volunteer, you are exercising freedom of choice, NS isn’t that!

dontcryformeargentina · 26/05/2024 02:04

Jenasaurus · 26/05/2024 00:03

Rishi Sunak says he will bring back National Service if Tories win general election | Politics News | Sky News

This has just appeared on sky news

He is mad... another reason not to vote for conservatives

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BeverForget · 26/05/2024 01:41

This is just Sunak attempting to shore up the right of the party/country.
There will be some narrative about 'woke' young people and the left to follow.
I wouldn't be surprised to see 'British history to be compulsory in schools' as an election pledge next.

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WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 01:35

claretblue79 · 26/05/2024 01:33

Lots of people volunteer, myself included. It’s not volunteering if it is one of two compulsory options. Anyone remember Cameron’s big society? How did that go?

Times are a little bit different now.

claretblue79 · 26/05/2024 01:33

Lots of people volunteer, myself included. It’s not volunteering if it is one of two compulsory options. Anyone remember Cameron’s big society? How did that go?

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 01:23

Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 01:19

I actually don’t know the point you were trying to make and evidently you don’t understand the point I am making as your opinion which is as far as I can see essentially is- isn’t it a great idea to make others carry out National Service, is made on the basis of being secure in the knowledge this will not be something you will be made to do.

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Let me clear that up for you. I think it’s a good idea. I would also have no problem whatsoever in doing it if it came to it, and I already undertake hours of volunteering a week on top of a FT job.