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BeverForget · 2024-05-23T21:09:04+00:00

I work in food supply chain. Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two. This happened in Feb 2020 as well. Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos. And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of. There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election. So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/05/2024 10:55

maudelovesharold · 27/05/2024 10:04

Remembered this thread and just came on to say maybe the op’s right! Rishi’s National Service proposal out of nowhere is just plain odd, and more likely to make me think we are being softened up for some future event. I’m not one for ridiculous conspiracy theories, but I do think there’s always a lot more going on behind the scenes than most of us realise.

The future event is him trying ( and failing) to win the election.

maudelovesharold · 27/05/2024 10:04

Remembered this thread and just came on to say maybe the op’s right! Rishi’s National Service proposal out of nowhere is just plain odd, and more likely to make me think we are being softened up for some future event. I’m not one for ridiculous conspiracy theories, but I do think there’s always a lot more going on behind the scenes than most of us realise.

inamarina · 27/05/2024 09:08

Bjorkdidit · 25/05/2024 22:46

It's basic emergency planning for a range of scenarios from localised bad weather to the end of the world and everything in between.

It's all been in place for decades and it just happens to have been mentioned as official advice again. This thread clearly shows that the public needs to be reminded of the plan more often, so they take note of it and get used to its existence.

Having a bit of spare food in is not designed to protect people against nuclear war, just to give people a bit of resilience so they don't run out at an inconvenient moment, eg when the weather is bad. Or if there's a giltch in the banking system and you can't pay for things.

It's just like the emergency services. The presence of fire engines, police officers and ambulances doesn't mean that you should expect your house to burn down, to get robbed and to have a heart attack. They just there to help out if those things happen.

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Thank you for your calm words and common sense.

returningbrit · 27/05/2024 01:53

Fallenangelofthenorth · 23/05/2024 22:30

Well my partner works in print and I knew about the social distancing stickers the supermarkets were ordering waaay before they stuck them on the floor. Honestly, where do people thinks they appeared from?

YANBU @BeverForget. Supermarkets are not going to order double for no reason. Is this all supermarkets? Or one in particular?

@Fallenangelofthenorth
How waaay far ahead are we talking re these social distancing sticker orders? pre 2020? I lived in Hong Kong worked in product development so also familiar with leadtimes and HK already had all those signs and stickers cropping up public in the end of January/beginning of February 2020.

Indeed I remember being heavily pregnant and being told at school that our children were breaking up early for Chinese New Year😬 due to the virus from Wuhan so much for getting a rest in before baby arrived. CNY was 25th January 2020 for reference. I also remember the situation on covid virus being reported on UK news in Christmas 2019 whilst home in UK .
Unless you are insinuating the ordered items were booked earlier than Christmas 2019 it's not really that 'out there ' re preparedness not when other countries were already ordering /modelling their reactions /restrictions

GivePeaceAChance · 27/05/2024 01:12

llizzie · 27/05/2024 01:03

If there was something looming that Sunak doesn't want a part of, he would not be standing himself.

I think announcing National Service is a big marker that he doesn’t want to be part of something without having to bother standing down.

llizzie · 27/05/2024 01:03

If there was something looming that Sunak doesn't want a part of, he would not be standing himself.

llizzie · 27/05/2024 01:01

Perhaps the new constituency boundaries have something to do with having the election now.

40weeksmummy · 26/05/2024 21:44

I really don't think people started panic buying (well, except our neighbour who probably bought all baby formula which was in stock at our Asda). Did our weekly shopping today at 3 supermarkets - no shortages... No limits for batteries, etc.

myothernameisdifferent · 26/05/2024 21:09

I don't think the voting age should be lowered - I'd be worried that in future that 16 olds would end up being treated as adults in the legal system.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 20:44

JenniferBooth · 26/05/2024 20:05

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/cases-invasive-meningococcal-disease-reported-travellers-returning-kingdom-saudi-arabia

Is this URL for this thread? It seems to be about three unvaccinated people in the UK having contracted meningitis while at a mass pilgrimage?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 20:39

Snippysocks · 26/05/2024 19:19

A 70 year old is definitely no more "worthy" than a 19 year old. But he's had 51 more years of experience. Not the same experiences, but at 70 he's lived through different governments and heard lots of broken promises from all sorts of politicians.....and seen politicians of good intent not being able to deliver on their promises and others breaking promises because it's more convenient.

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Time then to have developed fixed views then and prejudice!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 26/05/2024 20:37

Ilovemyshed · 26/05/2024 18:21

I think the voting age should stay as is or rise to 21, I don't believe a younger mind is mature enough to understand the depth of many of the issues. Although to be honest neither are many so called adults.

MPs shouldn't be allowed to take on the job until age 40 min and 20 years or so of industry/ business/ life experience outside of politics.

I've don't believe an older mind is flexible enough to understand more than one point of view or vote other than in unenlightened self interest. (Plus not having a longer term future perspective).

well, I don't believe that obviously (?) - but it's perhaps no worse a point of view that dismissing the right of young adults to vote

Sweden99 · 26/05/2024 20:36

Razorwire · 26/05/2024 20:34

Yes, sitting in London right now, phone sometimes spells for me.

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Thanks!

Razorwire · 26/05/2024 20:34

Sweden99 · 26/05/2024 14:26

Are you from the UK yourself?
I ask because of your spelling of Labour and there being so many trolls about.

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Yes, sitting in London right now, phone sometimes spells for me.

Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 20:22

Paul2023 · 26/05/2024 19:55

Exactly that.! And most people in the Armed service don’t have PTSD, it’s actually not that common.
The army is actually at peace time now.

In the event of a land war, the professional army would be first , 18 year old conscripts would be quite far down the order.

Its a policy that the conservatives have dreamt up , its highly likely they won’t be in government after July 5th, or atleast hold a majority.

No other party is open to it.

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National service is not the scouts it is coerced and you have no choice.

Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 20:20

Snippysocks · 26/05/2024 19:46

Not all old people are bigoted. And not all 17 year olds are as bright and committed as yours. All age groups include clever committed people and all age groups include bigots (think of the Tommy Robinson followers...)

I absolutely agree with you about all age groups but I don’t think age is wisdom necessarily!

GivePeaceAChance · 26/05/2024 20:20

Snippysocks · 26/05/2024 19:46

Not all old people are bigoted. And not all 17 year olds are as bright and committed as yours. All age groups include clever committed people and all age groups include bigots (think of the Tommy Robinson followers...)

👏👏👏👏👏

I just can’t stand these abhorrent generalisations !

JenniferBooth · 26/05/2024 20:05

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/cases-invasive-meningococcal-disease-reported-travellers-returning-kingdom-saudi-arabia

Paul2023 · 26/05/2024 19:55

Kandalama · 26/05/2024 18:19

It’s National service.
No fighting in a war.
No one’s getting shot at.

Its basically glorified scouts, ccf, d of e with marching and fatigue’s.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Exactly that.! And most people in the Armed service don’t have PTSD, it’s actually not that common.
The army is actually at peace time now.

In the event of a land war, the professional army would be first , 18 year old conscripts would be quite far down the order.

Its a policy that the conservatives have dreamt up , its highly likely they won’t be in government after July 5th, or atleast hold a majority.

No other party is open to it.

Jeannie88 · 26/05/2024 19:54

My partner works in the production of staple foods and said there hasn't been an increase? X

Snippysocks · 26/05/2024 19:46

Not all old people are bigoted. And not all 17 year olds are as bright and committed as yours. All age groups include clever committed people and all age groups include bigots (think of the Tommy Robinson followers...)

Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 19:34

Snippysocks · 26/05/2024 19:19

A 70 year old is definitely no more "worthy" than a 19 year old. But he's had 51 more years of experience. Not the same experiences, but at 70 he's lived through different governments and heard lots of broken promises from all sorts of politicians.....and seen politicians of good intent not being able to deliver on their promises and others breaking promises because it's more convenient.

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Have you met my bigoted 86 year old neighbour, he lacks insight, intelligence, compassion and knows zero about politics as opposed to my 17 year old studying A level Politics and Economics and more importantly has ideals and cynicism has not become a self fulfilling prophecy!

Spaghettily · 26/05/2024 19:32

Itsrainingten · 26/05/2024 17:13

Jeez 16 and 17 year olds may be "easily influenced by their peers" but they have a stake in the future! Raising the voting age to 21 is about as fair as having a cut off at say 75. Why should anyone 75+ have a vote? They have no idea of how the world works these days.
See? Sounds ageist that way round doesn't it? What's the difference? Why is a 70 year old more "worthy" than a 19 year old?

I agree. In fact, I’d go as far as to say that if anyone is denied a vote on the basis of age, it should be those who are least likely to suffer the consequences. 16/17 year olds are going to be living with the consequences of decisions made by the next government for a lot longer than 80 year olds.

Sasqwatch · 26/05/2024 19:31

mamaandbabas · 26/05/2024 11:03

I think he called the election as interest rates came down the day before and are expected to come down further.

Where did you hear that? @mamaandbabas

SaltyLemons · 26/05/2024 19:23

Yeah that logic worked really well with Brexit didn't it