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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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Lily193 · 24/05/2024 07:30

I think many people would try and do the responsible thing/ follow Government advice if we had another pandemic.

Of course they would

Whippetlovely · 24/05/2024 07:29

Gunnersforthecup · 24/05/2024 02:28

I don't agree actually that people will be less accepting of infection control measures than they were in 2020. I was amazed at how much people accepted changes in 2020, and were willing to try and do their bit to get through the crisis. There are still a few people round here who wear masks when out shopping now; I think many people would try and do the responsible thing/ follow Government advice if we had another pandemic.

They definitely will not. Most people are cross about how covid was dealt with and have zero trust in the government and pharmaceutical companies now. Many of us think the people still wearing masks after we now know they are completely ineffective are completely brainwashed. There is no hope for some people but many millions thankful have woken up.

Horsemother · 24/05/2024 07:25

I hate this bloody scaremongering, it always causes panic buying.

Countrylife2002 · 24/05/2024 07:21

Also bottled water doesn’t last that long even unopened so that’s a total waste of money to buy ahead!

Countrylife2002 · 24/05/2024 07:19

Honestly I think this is just politics the Govt signalling this as their main election message will be Tories are best for security (spoiler alert, as if). It’s just electioneering. They’ve presumably suggested this to supermarkets who have changed their supply plans.

VestibuleVirgin · 24/05/2024 07:16

We're all doomed. Doomed, I tell ye....

Sweden99 · 24/05/2024 07:16

Having the preparation warnings and oddly timed election might indicate something particular to the UK.
Brexit is coming up with new trade barriers. It seems most likely if it is anything.
Sweden is getting a similar message, but they have Russia next door upto all sorts (cyber attacks etc).

scalt · 24/05/2024 07:14

I said it on another thread, there must be a reason the government issued "preppers' guidance" very recently; we're distracted by the election, but they need to be able to say "we did tell you to do your prepping". Also, as we were nudged, nudged and nudged again during the plandemic (sorry, pandemic, I can't spell), the government is probably checking that the "nudge" unit still works, and if people still respond to it; or if they are now thinking "it's just the government crying wolf again".

There was "panic buying" of a certain valuable commodity about two and a half years ago, because a certain big company said something silly that made people panic, and buy it in massive quantities. Most people have probably forgotten all about it, but I haven't. (I'm not going to say what it was, in case I cause another panic!) That panic had the government's fingerprints all over it, as far as I'm concerned.

LaurieFairyCake · 24/05/2024 07:10

There's masses of self interest in panic buying as the Tories have a lot of shares in supermarkets and in the production

Plus there's also the agenda to push of "we're going to war you can't trust Labour to not get in bed with the Russians'

Absolute bollocks obviously

Twiglets1 · 24/05/2024 07:03

Some people aren’t happy unless we’re all doomed 🙄

AlecTrevelyan006 · 24/05/2024 07:02

Imminent alien invasion

Toptotoe · 24/05/2024 06:58

There were a few things on twitter yesterday saying there was a reason that would be revealed. One saying we are already at war with Russia - Andrew Bigden (?) MP was saying we’ve been lobbing bombs at Russia - it’s just not been declared. Apparently Rishi says he does not want to be a war time prime minister but he was being forced into it by his generals. Didn’t pay much heed to it but reading OPs post made me think of it

OneBadKitty · 24/05/2024 06:57

Notawool · 23/05/2024 22:16

The election has been called on 4th July, because the tories don’t want to waste their summer preparing for an election they know they will lose. Might as well call it now, lose their seats and get the summer off…

This!

marie3e · 24/05/2024 06:56

We don't really take Russia seriously but they do threaten to bomb us all the time. It will depend on how much we help bomb them or how far Russia thinks we can go. I never thought it would go this far but it may as well be Britain attacking Russia here and there

Sweden99 · 24/05/2024 06:54

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 24/05/2024 06:07

You think COVID didn't happen??

We are far too patient with some of these people.
I am very with people who are hesitant about the vaccine, as it is scary to have something you do not understand injected into you.
That said, I have friends who were working on the vaccine, my sister working in ICU (a good friend also) and seeing horrors.
People calling them liars and accusing them of conspiracies (by implication) deserve not more leeway than any other comparable slanders or libels.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 24/05/2024 06:53

I mean… war in Russia, war in the Middle East, solar flares, China sabre-rattling, water contamination issues in the UK, heavy rain leading to crop issues here - I’m battling to see the mystery tbh.

BobnLen · 24/05/2024 06:40

TheRiddle · 24/05/2024 06:18

I went to Tesco yesterday (large Tesco Superstore that was built 30 years ago). when it was first built it was always really busy because thousands of new houses were being built. As the years have gone on the place always seemed quiet as more and more people were getting their shopping delivered or at least doing click and collect. Tesco sold off half their car park to McDonalds who built on it and it is always busy. I don't go to Tesco very often and when I do it always made me feel sad (compared to the 'olden' days as it was very quiet and lacking in physical customers). A bit of a 'ghost town' feeling to it. Yesterday I did a big shop in person just cos I had an unexpected spare couple of hours. The place had the feel of everybody getting in each others way. Like it felt quite busy. I didn't have any trouble getting milk or toilet rolls or bottled water but I was surprised at the number of people there. They also seemed to have alot of the checkouts manned by people like they were expecting a huge rush. When I have been in before their is lots of self service checkouts and usually only a few tills that are manned. Yesterday though the checkouts seemed to be more manned than usual.

Anyway I could be adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 but just thought I'd throw that into the pot.

Probably because of a bank holiday weekend coming up, I'm expecting Waitrose and M& S food to be busy today

Nottodaythankyou123 · 24/05/2024 06:39

Pollipops1 · 23/05/2024 23:26

I just hope there is not a load of panic buying.

I sometimes wonder how many shares Rishi’s family, and other MPs’, own in supermarkets, and whether there’s any self interest in encouraging panic buying.

Gunnersforthecup · 24/05/2024 06:39

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 24/05/2024 05:45

People were compliant because it was unprecedented. Now we have been through a crisis/pandemic and we know that a lot of the things we did were pointless and we know that a lot of people (including those in power) didn't make the same sacrifices. We also know (those who came through unscathed) that 'nothing bad happened' and on a human psychology level that means we are more likely to take greater risks if a similar situation happens again. Compliance levels during Covid don't indicate that compliance levels would be similar in another crisis.

You see, I don't agree. I think people might say, oh, I'd never do that again, if you asked them now - but if war was declared, say, they would by and large get on with following the various advice.

Also, nothing predicts behaviour more than past behaviour. Covid was unusual in that the mortality was very low for many groups and especially for children. If we had an outbreak of flu, say, where the clinical risk profile was evolving but the mortality was higher, or children were unduly affected, I think people would be careful to follow guidelines, mostly.

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 06:36

wateringcanface · 23/05/2024 23:40

I never get the approach that you are either scaremongering, paranoid and should be wearing tin foil hats, or are completely dismissive, what about a middle ground?

Such as thinking that there isn't a conspiracy, nothing specific is looming, but in present times, there's a few reasons you might need to bunker in for a few days, or reasons there might be water /food supplies issues so it's fine to be mindful and keep some supplies in and stay alert to news.

You can have a healthy middle ground where you aren't terrified but neither complacent. Its reasonable to speculate

This.

None of this is new. It's always been part of the national emergency plan. Someone posted on another thread that the Irish government issues this sort of advice at the start of every winter. The Scandinavians send booklets to every household and people do what is asked and take it in their stride.

Here people either take it as a sign that the nukes are imminent and the government has only just thought about doing anything, but it's pointless anyway or its groundless scaremongering, best ignored. Bizarre.

dayswithaY · 24/05/2024 06:31

Who doesn’t already have matches, candles and batteries at home? Aren’t they just standard things to have?

BonifaceBonanza · 24/05/2024 06:26

Surely the reason supermarkets are ordering increased stock now is because of the government’s “prepare for a disaster and stockpile your stuff” announcement just now? Because without a doubt that will lead to some stockpiling especially from all the conspiracy theorists left over from covid.

timenowplease · 24/05/2024 06:26

@BeverForget Solar flares could be a possibility too.

cuckyplunt · 24/05/2024 06:21

Ooh, goody.. does this mean we’re going to see the “preppers” thread back again?

NoMoreLifts · 24/05/2024 06:20

MegsNaiceJam · 24/05/2024 01:50

Sunak called the election now so he is in time to sign his kids up to school in California in time for September.

And have the summer off.
Did the same when I was made redundant years ago.

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