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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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fliptopbin · 24/05/2024 10:11

Does anyone actually think that this government has the brains to pull off something like this?
From what I read, most Tory MP's were taken by surprise about the election timing, so I think the preparedness website going live on the same day was a coincidence.
The food supply change is probably due to the new Brexit checks. And as for the election, ots not that much of a surprise at all, because it was always going to be this year, we just didn't know exactly when.
Basically, if there is a choice between conspiracy and incompetence, its usually incompetence.

lowlight · 24/05/2024 10:09

maybe they they know we are in for a wet summer with terrible flooding.......

Alittlefrustrated · 24/05/2024 10:05

SwingVote · 24/05/2024 09:49

I did the vaccines last time because I could tell from the very basic trial data that Oxford was dangerous and was offered Pfizer in first week as a HCP.

I took it out of terror that if I didn’t get that one then, in all likelihood I might be forced to get the Oxford.

I was allergic to Pfizer. Very odd stuff happened to me and similar to fellow colleagues.

It feels like I have been very low level ill ever since. Then I had a child and that bouncing from illness to illness continued. It been years now since I felt well. I was saying to DP yesterday I hope one day I wake up and I realise it’s been months without illness.

So that might have been pure coincidence but I wouldn’t risk it. There’s no way I will take experimental vaccines again. I would give it a few years.

I've just retired from nursing. I felt very uneasy about experimental vaccines too. I felt forced/guilted to have them, whilst working. I was very relieved that healthy children weren't being offered them - having a primary aged child at the time.

skibiditoilet · 24/05/2024 10:02

Because people are panic buying because of threads like this and it’s a viscous cycle?

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 10:01

Best by dates are irrelevant for fruit and veg as it's the condition that's important, not how old it is. A lot of produce is stored for months before it goes on sale, so how long it remains edible is entirely down to storage conditions, not an arbitrary date.

If it looks fresh, it's fine. If it's starting to look a bit past it's best, you need to use it up, freeze it, put it in soup etc. Slightly squishy tomatoes that might not be nice in salad are absolutely fine in tomato sauce or cooked into a dish. Only when it starts looking like compost does it need throwing away, but you should really aim to use it before it gets to that state.

tuvamoodyson · 24/05/2024 10:01

evtheria · 23/05/2024 22:44

@marie3e
They've made a website 'Prepare'

prepare.campaign.gov.uk/get-prepared-for-emergencies/

I only found out about it from someone's Twitter.

They do this in other countries…we’re at the cow’s tail…

AxolotlLove · 24/05/2024 09:59

Alittlefrustrated · 24/05/2024 09:55

Yes! They've stopped putting best by dates on lots too, I've noticed.

That was to help reduce waste as there are many people who throw food away when it goes past the "Best Before". But it's a "Best" before, not a "Use by".

No conspiracy there 😊

Alittlefrustrated · 24/05/2024 09:55

Lifeomars · 24/05/2024 08:48

And the quality gets worse, sick of buying so called fresh veg to have it go off in around 2 days, tomatoes are awful, have all but given up buying them, had some green beans the other day and never got to eat any of them as they were turning black and going slimy when I got them out of the fridge. Interestingly, the Tories aren't campaigning on the myriad success of Brexit!

Yes! They've stopped putting best by dates on lots too, I've noticed.

ExhaustedHousewife · 24/05/2024 09:53

BeverForget thanks for sharing, I would rather be prepared.

SwingVote · 24/05/2024 09:49

I did the vaccines last time because I could tell from the very basic trial data that Oxford was dangerous and was offered Pfizer in first week as a HCP.

I took it out of terror that if I didn’t get that one then, in all likelihood I might be forced to get the Oxford.

I was allergic to Pfizer. Very odd stuff happened to me and similar to fellow colleagues.

It feels like I have been very low level ill ever since. Then I had a child and that bouncing from illness to illness continued. It been years now since I felt well. I was saying to DP yesterday I hope one day I wake up and I realise it’s been months without illness.

So that might have been pure coincidence but I wouldn’t risk it. There’s no way I will take experimental vaccines again. I would give it a few years.

Lazytiger · 24/05/2024 09:43

Well I for one am pleased. So unlike our government to be proactive. Watch Clarksons Farm. The weather was awful last year. There are two major wars and China owns most of Africa (major food producer). The government are right to do a risk analysis about an ‘any event’ disruption to food supply. We are an over populated Island and we are very vulnerable to shortages and a sudden hike in inflation.
Hopeful they will kick the net zero bollocks into the long grass and incentivise our farmers to grow food rather, than ‘plant’ solar panels, so we are less at risk if there is a supply chain issue.

ColdGirlWinter · 24/05/2024 09:35

This must be why I can't get my chocolate Pringles from Aldi.

TeenLifeMum · 24/05/2024 09:33

I can barely manage to organise myself to get my weekly shopping needs in a single shop so I dread to think what random stuff we’d end up with if I attempted to stockpile.

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 09:30

nothingsforgotten · 24/05/2024 09:14

I have already said this, several times, but you don't need to buy bottled water. You simply fill any bottles/containers from your tap and then replace the water every so often.

Or you rotate stocks. Go out and buy some bottled water and a few tins soon. If you haven't used them by the end of the year, put them in your normal grocery cupboard and use them up and replace with fresh items. Set a calendar entry to do this once a year at a time of your choosing.

If you're the worthy type who 'never uses tinned food' then set the date for 6 months before the use by date and donate it all to the food bank at this time.

Whippetlovely · 24/05/2024 09:27

MsCheeryble · 24/05/2024 07:41

What research is there that says "Most people" feel this way? If we have zero trust in pharmaceutical companies, how come the vast majority of us got vaccinated, and how come the death and serious illness rate fell so quickly once vaccines came along? How do you account for the fact that we are accepting prescriptions for products made by pharmaceutical companies ever day? If masks are "completely ineffective", how do you account for the fact that HCPs wear them?

Because we were gullible! We know it is ineffective doesn’t stop getting it or spreading it. HIV vaccines scandle?? Pharmaceutical companies are only interested in making money for shareholders not getting people better. That would not be the best business model. You get a tablet then four others to deal with the side effects of that. The stats were made up if you died of something else but had covid it was a covid death. So many lies but I don’t need to convert you I am not a Mormon. Think what you want. I am stating a fact that most people won’t listen next time. You only need to have conversations about it to know this. Everybody from people at the running club, my 70 year old mother, work colleagues, school gates. Most people are sceptical whether you like it or not. This is not tin foil hat , it’s common sense people will question things more if it were to happen again. That’s not being stupid it’s sensible. I’ll wait for the name calling and gas lighting as we aren’t allowed to have an opinion other than yours. Zzzzzz

mydogisthebest · 24/05/2024 09:26

Bringbackthebeaver · 24/05/2024 08:26

😐I was just explaining why it doesn't work for everyone because you said you don't understand why some people don't do it. It doesn't work for us for the reasons I outlined, so we don't do it.

You think it doesn't work for you but no one knows what might happen in the future.

What if there was threat of a nuclear attack and we were all told to stay indoors. No shops open so if you have little or no food you will most likely run out.

GiganticArkReadywithHottub · 24/05/2024 09:18

I remember these threads on covid where people would blast the OP saying 'it's just like bird flu, swine flu' etc, it'll turn out to be nothing. So now I think a bit of pondering is a good thing.

Grammarnut · 24/05/2024 09:17

More like he wants to get away from dealing with the infected blood scandal, the Post Office scandal and the reports on results of cutting midwife funding.

nothingsforgotten · 24/05/2024 09:14

Countrylife2002 · 24/05/2024 07:21

Also bottled water doesn’t last that long even unopened so that’s a total waste of money to buy ahead!

I have already said this, several times, but you don't need to buy bottled water. You simply fill any bottles/containers from your tap and then replace the water every so often.

Viviennemary · 24/05/2024 09:11

stayathomegardener · 24/05/2024 08:56

This, I suspect it's an absolutely shitty election campaign to frighten voters into "choosing" the status quo.

It's absolutely their only hope of winning. Scaring us into thinking Labour will be worse. They might be but I'm taking the chance.

Reallybadidea · 24/05/2024 09:09

blackheartsgirl · 24/05/2024 08:58

Something i did notice in my local Morrisons last week, a worker with a brand new hi vis with the writing social distancing ambassador (or something like that) on the back. That was new. It did make ponder I must admit

You think Morrisons "knows" something and yet it hasn't already been leaked to the press by someone in the many layers of bureaucracy between the government and a shop-floor worker?

You don't think the more likely option is that they needed a high-vis jacket and found one lurking in a cupboard from 4 years ago?

DeanElderberry · 24/05/2024 09:07

Gosh, for us it's increasingly seemed a bit 'oh do keep up, UK' - particularly around Covid, but evidently about normal emergency preparedness as well.

Mrsdyna · 24/05/2024 09:04

The UK has been the canary down the mine for where I live, so I'm hoping it's nothing.

DeanElderberry · 24/05/2024 09:01

In 2020 we'd been reading increasingly alarming stuff about the virus from the start of January, initially in China, then elsewhere, and governments in countries all over the planet were making statements.

This one seems to be UK only - certainly I don't think Ireland would be sticking its neck out over Palestine if the politicians thought a solar flare or a hostile state was going to damage the infrastructure in the next week or two.

So it's probably about a UK-only risk factor, and Brexit seems the likeliest.

But really, having a week's worth of essentials in the house is always a good idea, as is having savings that will carry you through a couple of months if necessary.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 24/05/2024 08:58

Nothing good is round the corner that’s for sure. I’m assuming a huge scale war in Europe that will bankrupt us all further.