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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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determinedtomakethiswork · 24/05/2024 11:03

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:21

It isn't that stupid a concept.
This is what happened in food supply in 2020.

But in 2020 were they told to do that before we heard about Covid?

cerisepanther73 · 24/05/2024 11:02

and whatever else War conflicts are happening now and the future too...

DeanElderberry · 24/05/2024 11:02

Back when I was a poverty-stricken postgraduate student (no grants or loans, minute income from taking tutorials) and used to cycle around looking in the gutter for 1p or even 1/2p coins at the end of the month I still always managed to always have an emergency can of tuna and / or sardines, and a bag of porridge oats in store Just In Case. And baked beans, that can be, and sometimes were, eaten cold out of the tin.

cerisepanther73 · 24/05/2024 11:01

@BeverForget

It's like the post cold War fear 😨 of nuclear arms attacks in the 60s 70s and early 80s era etc,

Now we have the issues of climate change Brexit the Ukraine 🇺🇦 Russia conflicts to contend with too.

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 10:59

2dogsandabudgie · 24/05/2024 10:32

If there was a nuclear attack being in doors wouldn't save you.

It would if you were outside the main blast zone but within the area where there is nuclear fallout. The same applies for releases from nuclear power stations, chemical releases etc. A huge amount of protection can be gained from sheltering.

scalt · 24/05/2024 10:55

Remember the “emergency alerts” for our phones as well? Of course, there’s no reason why the govt might actually use them.

RainbowZebraWarrior · 24/05/2024 10:53

fliptopbin · 24/05/2024 10:11

Does anyone actually think that this government has the brains to pull off something like this?
From what I read, most Tory MP's were taken by surprise about the election timing, so I think the preparedness website going live on the same day was a coincidence.
The food supply change is probably due to the new Brexit checks. And as for the election, ots not that much of a surprise at all, because it was always going to be this year, we just didn't know exactly when.
Basically, if there is a choice between conspiracy and incompetence, its usually incompetence.

I used to work as a Contingency Planner for the Civil Service. The way it works is that we (the workers / civil servants) drew up plans for various scenarios and then told the MPs what they needed to know.

MPs have fuck all to do with the process. Most government policy is driven and organised by civil servants.

Didimum · 24/05/2024 10:47

We had a huge thread like this when they rolled out the emergency alert text message a year or two ago. Business as usual.

OneTC · 24/05/2024 10:47

nothingsforgotten · 24/05/2024 09:14

I have already said this, several times, but you don't need to buy bottled water. You simply fill any bottles/containers from your tap and then replace the water every so often.

How frequently do you/would you replace them?

Sunnyside4 · 24/05/2024 10:44

Well, I better go and get stocked up properly on cat food (only have three weeks supply!), there were shortages of their food during covid and I found myself searching the internet for anywhere that had supplies more than once.

mydogisthebest · 24/05/2024 10:43

2dogsandabudgie · 24/05/2024 10:32

If there was a nuclear attack being in doors wouldn't save you.

Well I did say "threat" and not actual attack. But maybe something else where we are told to stay home and, this time, shops won't be open. It may not be that likely but is not impossible.

Samedaysameshit · 24/05/2024 10:42

Russian,s spring offensive causes collapse of Ukrainian army.
Russia overrun Kiev and a massacre begins
France and the UK deploy troops in Ukraine.
Something like this?

HonoraBridge · 24/05/2024 10:42

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:33

Brexit nonsense has already been, largely, costed for.
This is new, the need to build a larger stockholding.
This is what happened just before the Covid shutdown.
I hope I am just being overly twitchy.
But we have been here before, with the same idiots.

I agree, OP. It is worrying. Whatever the outcome of the election, we will have idiots in place and a huge majority of the population who will fall for anything.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/05/2024 10:37

2dogsandabudgie · 24/05/2024 10:32

If there was a nuclear attack being in doors wouldn't save you.

I’m old enough to remember the ‘protect and survive’ advice that advocated just that. Stock up your store cupboards, paint your windows white and if the alert sounds huddle up under the nearest table for protection and kiss your arse goodbye.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/05/2024 10:36

anyolddinosaur · 24/05/2024 10:13

Would anyone who went through covid be without spare toilet rolls ever again? I'll be reviewing our food supplies as there is stuff in the cupboards but not necessarily edible without cooking. We'd survive but OH would be starving before he'd eat some of it. We already have torches and candles but more wine than water 😀

And my view on election date is that Sunak has been offered a job elsewhere........

Edited

Well, yes. He and his wife will be hard pushed to make ends meet if he’s out of work post election 😂

MibsXX · 24/05/2024 10:34

dayswithaY · 24/05/2024 06:31

Who doesn’t already have matches, candles and batteries at home? Aren’t they just standard things to have?

erm, those of us on very low household budgets who can barely manage one days food at a time, let alone 3 days AND luxury extras

2dogsandabudgie · 24/05/2024 10:32

mydogisthebest · 24/05/2024 09:26

You think it doesn't work for you but no one knows what might happen in the future.

What if there was threat of a nuclear attack and we were all told to stay indoors. No shops open so if you have little or no food you will most likely run out.

If there was a nuclear attack being in doors wouldn't save you.

Rosscameasdoody · 24/05/2024 10:31

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:21

It isn't that stupid a concept.
This is what happened in food supply in 2020.

Post Brexit problems in the food supply chain most likely, caused by the ending of transitional arrangements. But I’m inclined to think that this is a desperate ploy from the Tories to garner votes from the more nervous among the electorate who won’t vote for the unknown if they think there’s a crisis in the offing.

jamimmi · 24/05/2024 10:25

My main concern is medication. There is currently a shortage of insulin is some forms. This is due to import checks no issue with production. It's made in Europe. DH unable to get any for his pump but commity pharmacist managed to get a different version of the same insulin to tide him over but it's not being used as the manufacturer advised. Its a life saving drug so kind of important and 1 to2 days or less with no supply and he's dead l. I wonder if this is all about to really blow up

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 10:24

fliptopbin · 24/05/2024 10:11

Does anyone actually think that this government has the brains to pull off something like this?
From what I read, most Tory MP's were taken by surprise about the election timing, so I think the preparedness website going live on the same day was a coincidence.
The food supply change is probably due to the new Brexit checks. And as for the election, ots not that much of a surprise at all, because it was always going to be this year, we just didn't know exactly when.
Basically, if there is a choice between conspiracy and incompetence, its usually incompetence.

MPs and ministers don't have a lot to do with this. They might sign things off, but all the deciding about what is needed and what happens is what the civil service and public bodies do.

kerstina · 24/05/2024 10:20

I hadn’t seen this thread before now but for some reason woke up thinking about Russia and how they had poisoned Sergei Skripal on our soil . Someone capable of that won’t let our support for Ukraine go unpunished.

DeanElderberry · 24/05/2024 10:19

view on election date is that Sunak has been offered a job elsewhere........

Or been invited to an Independence Day party with fireworks display stateside and wants to go and to stay over.

blackheartsgirl · 24/05/2024 10:17

Reallybadidea · 24/05/2024 09:09

You think Morrisons "knows" something and yet it hasn't already been leaked to the press by someone in the many layers of bureaucracy between the government and a shop-floor worker?

You don't think the more likely option is that they needed a high-vis jacket and found one lurking in a cupboard from 4 years ago?

No I don’t, honestly and it was just idle pondering 😂 when I was queuing

and tbh you don’t just find a random hi vis in a cupboard and think you’ll just bung it on when you are working the tills, I used to work in Morrisons, it was a specific brand new hi vis.

i just thought it was incongruous.

I saw two wearing the same hi vis today, I’ve just got back from there

Alittlefrustrated · 24/05/2024 10:14

Bjorkdidit · 24/05/2024 10:01

Best by dates are irrelevant for fruit and veg as it's the condition that's important, not how old it is. A lot of produce is stored for months before it goes on sale, so how long it remains edible is entirely down to storage conditions, not an arbitrary date.

If it looks fresh, it's fine. If it's starting to look a bit past it's best, you need to use it up, freeze it, put it in soup etc. Slightly squishy tomatoes that might not be nice in salad are absolutely fine in tomato sauce or cooked into a dish. Only when it starts looking like compost does it need throwing away, but you should really aim to use it before it gets to that state.

Best before (which is what I should of said) definitely has relevance,for fruit and veg,in terms of an indication as to how long you have, to enjoy them at their best. Use by, not so much. Common sense and intended purpose for the produce, guides me regarding that.

anyolddinosaur · 24/05/2024 10:13

Would anyone who went through covid be without spare toilet rolls ever again? I'll be reviewing our food supplies as there is stuff in the cupboards but not necessarily edible without cooking. We'd survive but OH would be starving before he'd eat some of it. We already have torches and candles but more wine than water 😀

And my view on election date is that Sunak has been offered a job elsewhere........