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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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Anniegetyourgun · 24/05/2024 13:38

Sunnyandsilly · 24/05/2024 13:36

Isn’t it obvious, if anyone gets in other than Tory it’s going to go to shit really quickly. Really quickly. So they need to be prepared for a market meltdown that might not recover fast.

Remind me who was in government the last time the market went to shit really quickly... or are you one of those who think Liz Truss was a genius but the Bank of England spoiled it?

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 24/05/2024 13:37

Totallymessed · 24/05/2024 13:25

Finally a thread for me to find my fellow paranoia people 😂

My thoughts are that Putin is doing a lot of sabre rattling about the UK interfering in his war in Ukraine atm. Before all the mocking posts start, I'm not living in fear that a nuclear missile is going to hit London or I'm going to wake up to see Russian paratroopers floating down from the sky. But I wouldn't be surprised at cyber attacks against infrastructure or essential services like the NHS. Interestingly, I did read some time agon that Ukrainian hackers have had some successes targeting things like payment systems used in Russian petrol stations + disrupting fuel supplies. I would be amazed if there aren't ongoing attempts by the Russians to hack and disrupt things in the UK.

But then, I also think....last year's Paris bed bug hysteria turned out to be probably the result of Russian trolls. For all the benefits of the internet, it has also allowed for unprecedented interference by hostile powers in the running of other countries. Interesting times!

He is but our stupid bastards, a little nation aka puppet of the USA is making us the focus as we are the weakest link

I just want Cameron to SHUT UP as it is a "red line"

I've taken previous press reports a not really worrying but the recent loose talk by our Gov/ministers is not helping

I am feeling that soon our idiots/gov that has access to nuclear bunkers and we don't, may allow, ok ukriane to use UK weapons to attack Russian soil - I HOPE I AM WRONG

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-will-strike-british-targets-if-uk-weapons-are-used-hit-its-2024-05-23/

Sunnyandsilly · 24/05/2024 13:36

Isn’t it obvious, if anyone gets in other than Tory it’s going to go to shit really quickly. Really quickly. So they need to be prepared for a market meltdown that might not recover fast.

WhiteLily1 · 24/05/2024 13:34

MibsXX · 24/05/2024 13:28

Store in a cool dark place ( cupboard under stairs type of thing) I do this and change them for fresh every 3 to 4 weeks ( I use the old to water plants/tip into a barrel for outdoors so as not to waste)

tap water in a bottle tastes absolutely rank after 24-48 hours let alone weeks!

MotherFeministWoman · 24/05/2024 13:34

MibsXX · 24/05/2024 13:32

War...war never changes....

God, if life becomes as tedious, boring, and ugly as Fallout 4 I might need to start worrying.

MibsXX · 24/05/2024 13:32

cerisepanther73 · 24/05/2024 11:04

and people think history is a dead subject ,

History in some ways just repeats as humans don't learn that's why

Wars conflicts, climate change ect...

War...war never changes....

RubySloth · 24/05/2024 13:32

Congratulations, I'm sure the idiots will now be emptying the shelves and fuel pumps like last time due to people like you posting stupid things.

laveritable · 24/05/2024 13:30

Do not start the panic buying ! PLEASE!

Totallymessed · 24/05/2024 13:29

Regarding the election timing, I suspect Rishi Sunak is fucked off with the constant sniping from other Tories. And wants to get his family settled into a nice mansion in California before the start of the school year 😂

MibsXX · 24/05/2024 13:28

OneTC · 24/05/2024 10:47

How frequently do you/would you replace them?

Store in a cool dark place ( cupboard under stairs type of thing) I do this and change them for fresh every 3 to 4 weeks ( I use the old to water plants/tip into a barrel for outdoors so as not to waste)

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 13:28

Totallymessed · 24/05/2024 13:25

Finally a thread for me to find my fellow paranoia people 😂

My thoughts are that Putin is doing a lot of sabre rattling about the UK interfering in his war in Ukraine atm. Before all the mocking posts start, I'm not living in fear that a nuclear missile is going to hit London or I'm going to wake up to see Russian paratroopers floating down from the sky. But I wouldn't be surprised at cyber attacks against infrastructure or essential services like the NHS. Interestingly, I did read some time agon that Ukrainian hackers have had some successes targeting things like payment systems used in Russian petrol stations + disrupting fuel supplies. I would be amazed if there aren't ongoing attempts by the Russians to hack and disrupt things in the UK.

But then, I also think....last year's Paris bed bug hysteria turned out to be probably the result of Russian trolls. For all the benefits of the internet, it has also allowed for unprecedented interference by hostile powers in the running of other countries. Interesting times!

As an aside.
London will be the safest place to be anyway

Totallymessed · 24/05/2024 13:25

Finally a thread for me to find my fellow paranoia people 😂

My thoughts are that Putin is doing a lot of sabre rattling about the UK interfering in his war in Ukraine atm. Before all the mocking posts start, I'm not living in fear that a nuclear missile is going to hit London or I'm going to wake up to see Russian paratroopers floating down from the sky. But I wouldn't be surprised at cyber attacks against infrastructure or essential services like the NHS. Interestingly, I did read some time agon that Ukrainian hackers have had some successes targeting things like payment systems used in Russian petrol stations + disrupting fuel supplies. I would be amazed if there aren't ongoing attempts by the Russians to hack and disrupt things in the UK.

But then, I also think....last year's Paris bed bug hysteria turned out to be probably the result of Russian trolls. For all the benefits of the internet, it has also allowed for unprecedented interference by hostile powers in the running of other countries. Interesting times!

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 13:24

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 24/05/2024 13:02

Sadly, there is a chance of war, a short one as it may quickly turn nuclear
The gutter press has been banging on about a "war with russia soon" for a long while now

Sadly, the gutter press could be correct as our lame gov is considering allowing our missiles etc to be used against Russia on russia soil and that is certainly a red line for russia.

russia would start out by attacking Englands bases in the ukraine and it will escalate or not from there

IMO, there is a bigger potential of a misunderstanding of a nuclear attack creating a real one

IMO, this may come first - a massive cyber attack on our gas and eltrics network followed up by a banking cyber attack along with attack on the NHS.
IMO, I may be wrong, NHS IT systems are not as robust as banking and utultires

I hope I am wrong but I hit covid on the head and was warning people it was an even like never seen before in the world in modern times and everyone laughed, I was saying this in Nov 2019

re war ramblings links below - BUT NOT from the gutter press
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-will-strike-british-targets-if-uk-weapons-are-used-hit-its-2024-05-23/

Thanks for this.
All very worrying if you live near a potential target.
Which we do

Snippysocks · 24/05/2024 13:17

SwingVote · 24/05/2024 09:49

I did the vaccines last time because I could tell from the very basic trial data that Oxford was dangerous and was offered Pfizer in first week as a HCP.

I took it out of terror that if I didn’t get that one then, in all likelihood I might be forced to get the Oxford.

I was allergic to Pfizer. Very odd stuff happened to me and similar to fellow colleagues.

It feels like I have been very low level ill ever since. Then I had a child and that bouncing from illness to illness continued. It been years now since I felt well. I was saying to DP yesterday I hope one day I wake up and I realise it’s been months without illness.

So that might have been pure coincidence but I wouldn’t risk it. There’s no way I will take experimental vaccines again. I would give it a few years.

I had a very mild dose of Covid in January 2021 before I was offered the vaccination. I now have Long Covid....it's changed my life in so many ways, and I don't have LC as badly as many who are bedbound by it. I'd advise everyone to have the vaccination. A few have reacted badly to the vaccine, but there are about 1 1/2 million with LC.

Brefugee · 24/05/2024 13:17

sounds sensible to me. If people start panic buying (because of having to have 3 days worth of tinned beans and UHT milk) the supermarkets will soon look empty which leads to further panic buying. If they double from 2 to 4 weeks of inventory, that is less likely to happen.

swimlyn · 24/05/2024 13:14

Nottodaythankyou123 · 24/05/2024 06:39

I sometimes wonder how many shares Rishi’s family, and other MPs’, own in supermarkets, and whether there’s any self interest in encouraging panic buying.

The Tories have always been about self interest. Maggie did the same and had to be forced out just like Boris.

But... quite a lot of people just love to slag off socialism, and appear to have very short memories.

BlackFriYay · 24/05/2024 13:08

Dahliasinallotment · 24/05/2024 13:04

I suspect is there is Armageddon my family doesn’t really have the skill set to survive, and a few extra tins in the cupboard won’t make much difference to our chances.

But the tins and water might help in a natural disaster while we wait for relief aid. That seems sensible.

Mumsnet seems extra twitchy this week. Do we suspect bots may be trying to influence national mood in an election cycle. My Paranoia will extend that far.

Ha that's exactly what I thought when I saw the "should I feel guilty for receiving a large amount of universal credit" thread the other week, with the OP rustling everybody's feathers going on about how she receives thousands.

I thought to myself, it's very convenient timing to start pissing off a forum with a sizable % of middle class users. That's one way to temp somebody to vote Tory.

badatdecisions · 24/05/2024 13:07

They are doing a July election because:

Due to the way the parliament dates fall, there's no way Labour can actually pass any laws till October, so they can say Labour is doing nothing/failing, and also stop Labour actually being able to improve things for months.

Old people (i.e. Tory voters) are more likely to get out and vote at that time of year vs winter. Currently, they have a strong chance of stopping Labour having a majority government just by winning a few key seats. Labour isn't doing as well as the hype.

They can sack off all the doomed to fail policies like Rwanda while saving face and pretending they would have worked out.

Rishi already has plans to spend winter in California so he wants time to prep for that, wrap everything up, move his stuff etc.

We are woefully unprepared for a war, all the eastern countries and the US and even Japan and Australia have been actively preparing for months. As usual, we will do f all until the eleventh hour.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 24/05/2024 13:07

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 24/05/2024 13:02

Sadly, there is a chance of war, a short one as it may quickly turn nuclear
The gutter press has been banging on about a "war with russia soon" for a long while now

Sadly, the gutter press could be correct as our lame gov is considering allowing our missiles etc to be used against Russia on russia soil and that is certainly a red line for russia.

russia would start out by attacking Englands bases in the ukraine and it will escalate or not from there

IMO, there is a bigger potential of a misunderstanding of a nuclear attack creating a real one

IMO, this may come first - a massive cyber attack on our gas and eltrics network followed up by a banking cyber attack along with attack on the NHS.
IMO, I may be wrong, NHS IT systems are not as robust as banking and utultires

I hope I am wrong but I hit covid on the head and was warning people it was an even like never seen before in the world in modern times and everyone laughed, I was saying this in Nov 2019

re war ramblings links below - BUT NOT from the gutter press
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-it-will-strike-british-targets-if-uk-weapons-are-used-hit-its-2024-05-23/

Just found this as i hear a bot about it a couple of days ago and dismissed it - better to have a few extra cans and candles and batteries as its always sensible to do so for power cuts etc

https://www.ft.com/content/002490f0-13db-4234-b609-e8a539b28447

Government tells Britons to stockpile as part of emergency planning

As campaign urges households to stock up on tinned food and batteries, retailers warn against panic buying

https://www.ft.com/content/002490f0-13db-4234-b609-e8a539b28447

WomanMumLoverDaughterStepmumFriend · 24/05/2024 13:07

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:21

It isn't that stupid a concept.
This is what happened in food supply in 2020.

That’s good info to have , makes you wonder . Since 2020 we always have at least q month supply of food as an emergency . People used to joke when at the hight of Brexit I decided to have 3 months , then Covid hit and guess who didn’t need to panic at all food wise , we had plenty of pasta and toilet paper to share

OVienna · 24/05/2024 13:05

@Dahliasinallotment Bots -maybe.'

BlackFriYay · 24/05/2024 13:05

I spent days metaphorically shitting myself when threads like this started appearing when covid hit, then again when Putin started his sabre rattling about nuclear weapons. It all gets a bit too much for people who have a tendency to panic and get stuck in a doom mindset. I clearly haven't learned my lesson though as here I am again, reading the same shit, years later.

If anybody else reading is like me, can I suggest you hide the thread and look after your mental health? I will be doing so after I post this 🙁

Dahliasinallotment · 24/05/2024 13:04

I suspect is there is Armageddon my family doesn’t really have the skill set to survive, and a few extra tins in the cupboard won’t make much difference to our chances.

But the tins and water might help in a natural disaster while we wait for relief aid. That seems sensible.

Mumsnet seems extra twitchy this week. Do we suspect bots may be trying to influence national mood in an election cycle. My Paranoia will extend that far.

MagePaige · 24/05/2024 13:02

What a life when it's spent wondering if a pandemic or war is coming!