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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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BloodyHellKenAgain · 24/05/2024 16:27

Sunnyandsilly · 24/05/2024 16:00

I’d genuinely not bet any money that poor old kier is going to inherit anything and I’m really not sure he actually wants to. I think like Corbyn, kiers exactly where he wishes to be. Leading rhe opposition. Look at how he’s started, he shitting it, had to come clean he isn’t going to do any of his pledges and ducking debates. I’d put money kiers going to try really fucking hard not to win.

I heard him being interviewed on the Radio 4 Today programme this morning and he was very lack lustre so you may be right.

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 16:25

I'm off to Tesco I shall check on the battery situation and report back !

Mcvitieschoccybiscuit · 24/05/2024 16:22

Aren’t supermarkets always busy on a Friday?

Do we really think there’s been a scenario: “PM MI6 have intelligence that there’s going to be a nuclear attack in 3 months”. “Oh shit fuck that let’s call an election and when labour get in those that are left can blame them.” I mean I’m sure it’s not out of the realms of possibility but surely they’d be busy with other stuff than posing with babies and putting leaflets through doors?

badatdecisions · 24/05/2024 16:19

Lilianna55 · 24/05/2024 14:23

What else should we be doing to prepare for war than we are already doing. We have our nuclear deterrent, what else should we do? In a nuclear war there’ll be no winners anyway.

Read up on what those other countries are doing. That's what we should be doing. And also replacing Trident with something else because it's shit.

Also it won't be a nuclear war (unless North Korea decides to start it, which seems unlikely). It will be more of what we've seen already, drones and targeting energy and water supplies, and cyber warfare, and more powerful regular missiles.

The countries that have the manpower, weapons and money to start a nuclear war are Russia (who won't do it because they're old school in their fighting and don't actually want to destroy places beyond repair, they want to take them for land/empire), the US (who won't do it because they're not immediately threatened geographically, can't justify the cost to the US people for fighting foreign wars, and are like the Airbnb/Uber/Amazon of war because they just use other people's bases, they don't own their own stuff in the rest of the world), China (who won't do it because they prioritise the economy and war would kill it off, they will be happy to supply to both sides and remain relatively neutral in someone else's world war though), and India (who are focused on a population growth and development strategy and don't really care about anything outside India).

Iran, North Korea, etc., are all too small to actually start something, they wouldn't be able to finish it and they'd be decimated.

But it won't happen this year unless Israel loses its mind. There are too many elections happening to interfere in and that's what will be distracting everybody (over half the world's population is going to the polls this year).

afterfive · 24/05/2024 16:18

DeanElderberry · 24/05/2024 16:07

You're being lined up for a General Election. The UK is the only country that is suddenly getting scary messaging this week. It is embarrassing clunky 'only more of the same can save us, change is dangerous' nonsense.

Yeah, the rest of us already have plans for this by our governments. It’s just UK being a bit behind, and scared by it. To us it’s just sensible, but you just seem to be pissed off that you suddenly have to take some responsibility of your own. In another thread someone wrote that they thought the government should provide all households with a torch and water. It’s just laughable really.

Iamawomenphenominally · 24/05/2024 16:14

This is a terrifying read when you suffer with anxiety. 😔

I barely scraped through the whole COVID /lockdowns saga mental health wise and I'm still not back to how I was before.

I'm torn between making a list of stockpiling items or googling easy ways out tbvh.

afterfive · 24/05/2024 16:14

myothernameisdifferent · 24/05/2024 16:04

Given that we've just had the Northern Lights visible in much of the UK including the south, I wonder if they're worried about something like a Carrington Event - a massive solar storm that would knock out the internet and things like electronic tills, stock ordering systems etc. It would probably take a while to get everything back online and Tesco etc wouldn't be the priority if something like that happened. When it happened in 1859 it knocked out the telegraph network - we're much more reliant on tech now.
https://www.space.com/the-carrington-event

There was one last week and will be another one in a few days. They were quite big, but they don’t know how big or the impact until 20 min before.

Goldenbear · 24/05/2024 16:11

HurdyGurdy19 · 24/05/2024 16:06

My husband reckons that there will be a war in Europe against Putin. Not just Ukraine, but most/all of Europe.

He's concerned about the government's (present and future) stance on the defence budget, which has been slashed over the past few years.

I think the pertinent point here is ‘who’ is your husband?

DeanElderberry · 24/05/2024 16:07

You're being lined up for a General Election. The UK is the only country that is suddenly getting scary messaging this week. It is embarrassing clunky 'only more of the same can save us, change is dangerous' nonsense.

HurdyGurdy19 · 24/05/2024 16:06

My husband reckons that there will be a war in Europe against Putin. Not just Ukraine, but most/all of Europe.

He's concerned about the government's (present and future) stance on the defence budget, which has been slashed over the past few years.

Cattery · 24/05/2024 16:04

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 15:59

Part of our front wall is a WW2 snipers bunker, I might have to station myself there but I’ve only got brollies. Maybe I should follow your lead with the torches @cattery,

Yes. Dazzle em with the torches whilst lobbing toilet rolls

myothernameisdifferent · 24/05/2024 16:04

evtheria · 23/05/2024 22:44

@marie3e
They've made a website 'Prepare'

prepare.campaign.gov.uk/get-prepared-for-emergencies/

I only found out about it from someone's Twitter.

Given that we've just had the Northern Lights visible in much of the UK including the south, I wonder if they're worried about something like a Carrington Event - a massive solar storm that would knock out the internet and things like electronic tills, stock ordering systems etc. It would probably take a while to get everything back online and Tesco etc wouldn't be the priority if something like that happened. When it happened in 1859 it knocked out the telegraph network - we're much more reliant on tech now.
https://www.space.com/the-carrington-event

The Carrington Event: History's greatest solar storm

Extreme solar storms such as the 1859 Carrington Event can play havoc with technology on Earth.

https://www.space.com/the-carrington-event

cremebrulait · 24/05/2024 16:03

OP are you just trying to wind people up?
What is the point of the post? NOTHING.

And the updated website - it was the journalists digging for drama. It's a website about preparedness. you know what - the UK was f-ing behind if it didnt have one.

Canada
https://www.getprepared.gc.ca/cnt/kts/bsc-kt-eng.aspx

France
https://www.info.gouv.fr/risques/se-preparer-a-une-situation-durgence

Australia
https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/preparing-for-natural-disasters?context=60042

Every US state has one.. .

This was a wind up by the journalists. That's it.

Basic Emergency Kit

Basic items you will need to survive for 72 hours.

https://www.getprepared.gc.ca/cnt/kts/bsc-kt-eng.aspx

Sunnyandsilly · 24/05/2024 16:00

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:57

Poor old Sir Keir he's going to inherit a pretty broken state, people crying out for help and no money and a possible war. I don't envy his job one bit, but I do trust him. He is honest as the day is long.

I’d genuinely not bet any money that poor old kier is going to inherit anything and I’m really not sure he actually wants to. I think like Corbyn, kiers exactly where he wishes to be. Leading rhe opposition. Look at how he’s started, he shitting it, had to come clean he isn’t going to do any of his pledges and ducking debates. I’d put money kiers going to try really fucking hard not to win.

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 15:59

Cattery · 24/05/2024 15:54

I’ve only been and got one; two actually! A double-pronged defence 😬

Part of our front wall is a WW2 snipers bunker, I might have to station myself there but I’ve only got brollies. Maybe I should follow your lead with the torches @cattery,

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:57

Poor old Sir Keir he's going to inherit a pretty broken state, people crying out for help and no money and a possible war. I don't envy his job one bit, but I do trust him. He is honest as the day is long.

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 15:56

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:49

That article in the Torygraph - no surprises says the Tories by a long mile ! No one seems to say how much though just that we need to do it.

Conservatives say an increase in defence spending by 2.5% of GDP
Labour say they will support the above budget but need to look into it.

Cattery · 24/05/2024 15:54

Terrribletwos · 24/05/2024 14:58

Ah, that made me laugh, thank you.

I’ve only been and got one; two actually! A double-pronged defence 😬

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 15:54

Defence spending
Heres what Conservatives and Labour say,

To think we are being lined up for something?
WhiteLily1 · 24/05/2024 15:53

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:36

They all know they just don't want to scare the populace.

Also… I really do wish I thought ‘they all know’. Who is all? I feel pretty confident that not many people actually ‘know’ that much. Especially those in Uk government.
Knowing mean organisation. Knowing means the UK is prepared for lots of things. I don’t get the feeling the UK is in a brilliantly organised and ordered state at the moment- do you?
A bit like in covid. ‘They’ actually didn’t know anything. And behind the scenes it was like the wizard of OZ with a baboon in charge getting orders from monkeys.

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:49

WhiteLily1 · 24/05/2024 15:45

Yes… I wonder which party is putting defence further up it’s list of priorities

That article in the Torygraph - no surprises says the Tories by a long mile ! No one seems to say how much though just that we need to do it.

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 15:47

RoobarbAndMustard · 24/05/2024 15:14

Vile new build homes?
We have a housing crisis in case you hadn't noticed. We all need a home and there's so many homeless and in temporary accommodation.

We do need more housing.
Just not 4 bed detached and garages
We are building more ‘homes’ for cars than humans.

We need terraces, townhouses ( higher so take up less land) and flats.

New developments are not designed as such for the good of the people, and are irrelevant to the local communities housing needs. There is never enough relevant sized or priced housing. It’s pure profit making by greedy developers.

@slore is absolutely correct including the comment on land wasted on livestock.

WhiteLily1 · 24/05/2024 15:45

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:36

They all know they just don't want to scare the populace.

Yes… I wonder which party is putting defence further up it’s list of priorities

MagicFox · 24/05/2024 15:44

If you're interested in reading the actual article (which sensibly argues for an increase in defence spending as important to election campaigning in the context of the upcoming GE and the current geopolitical situation) it's here: archive.ph/2024.05.23-070823/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/23/uk-election-rishi-sunak-conservative-party-world-war-putin/

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 15:36

They all know they just don't want to scare the populace.

To think we are being lined up for something?