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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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badatdecisions · 24/05/2024 19:52

Igotjelly · 24/05/2024 19:49

I’d say acts of ecocide such as blowing up hydroelectric dams and threatening nuclear power stations are pretty far up the list of things that leave a place uninhabitable. And having friends from Kharkiv I can safely tell you the Russians think nothing of destroying a place.

And the book is a hypothetical, not out of date (I say that as having read it) and focuses on NK not Iran who frankly don’t give a fuck about economy.

No, you have to actually nuke a place to make it uninhabitable. I've been to Ukraine many times, including Chernobyl. We also host a Ukrainian refugee - her husband is still there. I'm very familiar with what's happening, often before it reaches the UK.

What Russia is doing is shit, but it's nowhere near as bad as other things currently happening in the world.

All (non e)books are out of date. The publishing cycle is too long.

Igotjelly · 24/05/2024 19:49

badatdecisions · 24/05/2024 19:37

Although horrible, it's not annihilated beyond repair. It's in no way comparable to land being radioactive and nothing being able to safely live within miles for decades, centuries, maybe longer.

Iran has been acting pretty conservatively, especially re Israel. They have been far more conservative than Israel has. As I stated above, they don't have the economy to start a nuclear war. Any book is 18 months behind, we're talking about what's happening now.

I’d say acts of ecocide such as blowing up hydroelectric dams and threatening nuclear power stations are pretty far up the list of things that leave a place uninhabitable. And having friends from Kharkiv I can safely tell you the Russians think nothing of destroying a place.

And the book is a hypothetical, not out of date (I say that as having read it) and focuses on NK not Iran who frankly don’t give a fuck about economy.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 24/05/2024 19:45

Teajenny7 · 24/05/2024 19:15

After reading this thread, I have decided to go shopping.
List:
Chocolate
More chocolate
Wine
Gin
Whisky
Porridge
Iron Bru
Vitamin tablets
Fruit
More chocolate
More wine
Tooth past
batteries for the rabbit

Anymore suggestions?
PS.
Next door still has toilet roll from lockdown .

PLEASE STOP

you are encouraging panic buying!!!😂

btw - add = Soap = Toilet paper = Aspirin = Wine - Mini Windmill

badatdecisions · 24/05/2024 19:43

watergames · 24/05/2024 16:41

Your analysis here is not good, almost in its entirely. You have analysed almost every element and every nation's policy incorrectly.

Edit: sorry to be blunt

Edited

You don't need to apologise, I don't care what your opinions are of facts. They are still facts.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 24/05/2024 19:41

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 24/05/2024 11:56

Knock off the mystery paranoia. You're not in on some secret, you just make yourself sound ignorant.

Eh? Just speculating like everyone else.

Did you mean to be so rude?

(Head tilt and tinkly laugh in your direction 🤭)

StormingNorman · 24/05/2024 19:40

chosenone · 23/05/2024 23:01

It’s not linked to the contaminated water situation in Devon is it? Could water supplies be targeted?

I was wondering why we were being advised to keep a stock of food AND WATER when we have water from the taps.

OneNiftyPoet · 24/05/2024 19:38

Notawool · 23/05/2024 22:16

The election has been called on 4th July, because the tories don’t want to waste their summer preparing for an election they know they will lose. Might as well call it now, lose their seats and get the summer off…

Exactly, they want the summer off! I was going to say that. :)

Igotjelly · 24/05/2024 19:37

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 19:36

I'll buy that it sounds about right and it's going to be one hell of a dirty election from the Tories.

At the rate they’re resigning there won’t be many left!

badatdecisions · 24/05/2024 19:37

Igotjelly · 24/05/2024 17:05

I’ll caveat this with saying I don’t think nuclear war is in any way imminent or what we’re all being ‘prepped’ for.

However I think it’s important to recognise that Russia have absolutely no issue with absolutely annihilating places beyond repair, look at what they’re currently doing in Kharkiv oblast.

Secondly it’s perfectly plausible that North Korea or Iran could be the trigger. (Absolutely NOT for those with a weak stomach) the recent Nuclear War - A Scenario by Annie Jacobsen and Informed by many highly informed experts outlines exactly how that might occur.

Although horrible, it's not annihilated beyond repair. It's in no way comparable to land being radioactive and nothing being able to safely live within miles for decades, centuries, maybe longer.

Iran has been acting pretty conservatively, especially re Israel. They have been far more conservative than Israel has. As I stated above, they don't have the economy to start a nuclear war. Any book is 18 months behind, we're talking about what's happening now.

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 19:36

Hummingbird10 · 24/05/2024 19:27

I think the timing of the message about needing g to have enough drinking water, canned foods etc for three days was made to rattle us. The Tory's message is it's dangerous out there, but we will protect you. I personally feel that is simply untrue, but I think psychology derailing us en masse so that we are afraid to rock the boat at the July election and ensuring that we see the Tory's as the only safe pair of hands, which again personally i think is utter tripe, is the name of the game. I see that the utility bills are about to be reduced, but I firmly believe that if the Tories get back in, or indeed Labour they will have to go back up again. It's all electioneering in my view.

I'll buy that it sounds about right and it's going to be one hell of a dirty election from the Tories.

Hummingbird10 · 24/05/2024 19:27

I think the timing of the message about needing g to have enough drinking water, canned foods etc for three days was made to rattle us. The Tory's message is it's dangerous out there, but we will protect you. I personally feel that is simply untrue, but I think psychology derailing us en masse so that we are afraid to rock the boat at the July election and ensuring that we see the Tory's as the only safe pair of hands, which again personally i think is utter tripe, is the name of the game. I see that the utility bills are about to be reduced, but I firmly believe that if the Tories get back in, or indeed Labour they will have to go back up again. It's all electioneering in my view.

Drearydiedre · 24/05/2024 19:23

Im fairly certain this is to do with wet weather rather than war...

Our farms weren't able to plant wheat until about 8 weeks later than usual. This applies to other food. More will need to be imported.

GivePeaceAChance · 24/05/2024 19:21

Teajenny7 · 24/05/2024 19:15

After reading this thread, I have decided to go shopping.
List:
Chocolate
More chocolate
Wine
Gin
Whisky
Porridge
Iron Bru
Vitamin tablets
Fruit
More chocolate
More wine
Tooth past
batteries for the rabbit

Anymore suggestions?
PS.
Next door still has toilet roll from lockdown .

First aid kit
Hazmat suit

probably get them both from ‘the middle aisle’

custardcreme77 · 24/05/2024 19:17

Teajenny7 · 24/05/2024 19:15

After reading this thread, I have decided to go shopping.
List:
Chocolate
More chocolate
Wine
Gin
Whisky
Porridge
Iron Bru
Vitamin tablets
Fruit
More chocolate
More wine
Tooth past
batteries for the rabbit

Anymore suggestions?
PS.
Next door still has toilet roll from lockdown .

That’s a good emergency supply.

Don’t forget the chocolate…

Teajenny7 · 24/05/2024 19:15

After reading this thread, I have decided to go shopping.
List:
Chocolate
More chocolate
Wine
Gin
Whisky
Porridge
Iron Bru
Vitamin tablets
Fruit
More chocolate
More wine
Tooth past
batteries for the rabbit

Anymore suggestions?
PS.
Next door still has toilet roll from lockdown .

BeverForget · 24/05/2024 19:13

PelicanPopcorn · 24/05/2024 17:02

That sounds like a significant amount more stock to hold - is that even possible with our supply chain setup? Interested in the logistics side of things, where would you put that food - surely there's not warehousing capacity sitting around? Is it all stock or key products?

In the first wave of Covid, it presented a lot of challenges.
There is the storage capacity, nationally, but it is getting it to sites.
One of the biggest hindrances to this in lockdown was the lack of qualified HGV drivers and the difficulty in training and licensing them.
Toilet paper, for example.
There was an abundance of it throughout the whole of 2020/2021, but panic buying decimated local supplies, that could not be replenished fast enough due to lack of available staff to fulfill transport obligations.

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TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 18:55

I'm English - consider the beans spilled. But not baked. From oop North, as it happens !

shuggles · 24/05/2024 18:55

Thanks for the heads up, OP. I will try to stockpile some money so I can buy stocks when they crash in value.

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 18:53

watergames · 24/05/2024 18:46

With all due respect, bad grammar and linguistic errors would indicate the poster is British and quite normal, and quite possibly a graduate or a professional.

By linguistic typo did you mean errors in linguistic typology?

It would be Russian trolls not Russians trolls.

Are you English? Come on, spill the beans, now.

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Probably in the past St Petersburg troll factory posts would have weird non-native inflexions and phrases and be parroting a Kremlin line so were easy to spot. With AI they can cover those up. I had to crunch your reply to fully understand it ! Did 'it' get you right ?

The statement is making a lighthearted generalization, with a touch of stereotype, about British people and their writing.

Here's a breakdown:

With all due respect: This is a polite phrase used before expressing a disagreement or something that might be critical.
Bad grammar and linguistic errors: This refers to mistakes in writing, like using the wrong word or forgetting punctuation.
Indicate the poster is British: This suggests that because of the errors, the writer might be British.
Quite normal: This downplays the significance of the errors, saying they're not a big deal.
Quite possibly a graduate or a professional: This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, implying that even well-educated Brits might make occasional mistakes.

On the linguistic typo:

The statement uses "linguistic errors" which is more likely what they meant than "errors in linguistic typology."
Linguistic typology refers to the study of how languages classify things like nouns and verbs. Errors in that area would be very specific and unlikely in casual writing.

Overall, it's a playful remark suggesting that some Britons, regardless of education level, might make grammatical mistakes, but it doesn't necessarily reflect poorly on them.

watergames · 24/05/2024 18:46

TheFirmBiscuit · 24/05/2024 17:50

Having looked through this thread I'm seeing some obviously AI responses - the age of bad grammar and linguistic typos giving away the russians trolls is a thing of the past.

With all due respect, bad grammar and linguistic errors would indicate the poster is British and quite normal, and quite possibly a graduate or a professional.

By linguistic typo did you mean errors in linguistic typology?

It would be Russian trolls not Russians trolls.

Are you English? Come on, spill the beans, now.

eggplant16 · 24/05/2024 18:29

Would cling film do?

ILikePistachios · 24/05/2024 18:27

eggplant16 · 24/05/2024 18:25

But most people are too blind, too caught up in their own little lives to notice

What do you suggest I do?

Wrap some tin foil around your head, might help

eggplant16 · 24/05/2024 18:25

But most people are too blind, too caught up in their own little lives to notice

What do you suggest I do?

eggplant16 · 24/05/2024 18:23

tkwal · 24/05/2024 17:34

The government suggests having 3 days , at least, of food, water and emergency supplies stashed "just in case". How do they suggest the thousands of people relying on food banks will manage that ?
Supermarkets are blatantly profiteering while reducing access to their better value/own brand products.
The droughts in food producing countries are already affecting fruit and vegetables, oils, cereals, tea and coffee , further contributing to inflation.
The infrastructure in the country as a whole is crumbling. Flooding is causing insurance companies to remove our umbr.ellas just as the storm is at its worst
Civil servants are no longer civil servants. They are dictators or Tsars telling the plebs how to function and to be grateful for what we receive. They make Yes Minister look like a heavily censored documentary. Sir Humphry had nothing on this lot. If we dare to complain we are reminded to "treat our staff with respect" while no one, anywhere wants to be accountable for the countless errors we "service users" experience on a daily basis
Europe along with the UK has failed Ukraine while appeasing Putin who all the time is edging closer to China. Then there's Iran, Saudi Arabia and Qatar encouraging and funding fundamentalist fanatics.
Gaza is a tragedy beyond words with the US demonstrating breathtaking hypocrisy in condemning Israel for responding to deadly force employed against its citizens. Not by ordinary Palestinians just trying to get on with their lives but by extremists trained, brainwashed and weaponised by the countries I mentioned earlier.
The UN is becoming another beaureaucratic monolith producing little more than hot air.
Now we have an election where we have to decide whether to vote frying pan, fire or solar powered extinguisher.

Anyone else concerned for the future?

Nothing you have said is wrong. So how to get through the day and/ or enjoy life?

justasking111 · 24/05/2024 18:10

We had this in the early 80s when I had a toddler and a baby, they're both 40 now we're still here.

Our lifestyle as it stands is not sustainable the nudgers have decided. There's too many of us. So a reset I'm sure is discussed.

Maybe people with spare bedrooms will be forced to move or take in lodgers, maybe food stuffs will become more expensive. Maybe there will be forced population control. Who knows 🤷‍♂️

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