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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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Pastelbuttercream · 25/05/2024 19:18

Can anyone link to any articles about this or where the government first said it?

I told a family member and they won’t believe me, despite sending articles from the Times, Sky News and the DM. Apparently as none of them are the bbc, I must be kidding them Hmm

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 19:15

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 19:14

  1. Policy re protecting womens spaces / in building regs
  2. Policy re Labours changes to fast track gender certificates as opposed to the existing Conservative policy which allows interim certificates to be issued protecting married womens status and time to plan.

Very involved policies and changes over years. I can’t site years worth here. So that’s just a couple of examples.

Obviously no 2 protects all married peoples status, women and men. Which goes without saying really

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 19:14

MotherFeministWoman · 25/05/2024 18:10

I have no idea what this means.

  1. Policy re protecting womens spaces / in building regs
  2. Policy re Labours changes to fast track gender certificates as opposed to the existing Conservative policy which allows interim certificates to be issued protecting married womens status and time to plan.

Very involved policies and changes over years. I can’t site years worth here. So that’s just a couple of examples.

Sasqwatch · 25/05/2024 19:09

Spaghettily · 24/05/2024 21:14

Why? Based on what?

Based on them being Labour 🤷🏻‍♀️

Mtlso · 25/05/2024 19:04

YANBU. It’s quite telling that major food retailers are now seeking to renegotiate their supply chains to ensure at least a four-week minimum supply, doubling the usual two weeks. It mirrors the early days of the COVID in February 2020 when similar precautions were taken. I feel like the rhetoric about being on a "war footing" from politicians really heightens the sense of an impending crisis.

Sunak knows what is about to happen and is particularly suspicious, he is probably privy to information about an imminent crisis that he prefers to avoid. Given the current political climate, it seems unlikely that the Tories would fare well in a July election, raising questions about what they know that they are not disclosing to the public.

It's not just the food supply chain preparing as they did at the start of the pandemic; other industries are also taking similar steps. The pharmaceutical industry is increasing its stockpiles of essential medications, anticipating potential disruptions in the supply chain. The tech sector is also ramping up production and storage of critical components, such as semiconductors, in response to potential shortages. The energy sector is securing additional reserves of oil and gas, preparing for possible disruptions in supply due to geopolitical tensions.

These actions across various industries suggest a broad and coordinated effort to brace for significant disruptions, much like what was observed at the onset of the COVID. It seems clear that there is an underlying concern driving these preparations, and the public deserves transparency about the nature and scope of the potential crisis that is prompting such widespread precautionary measures.

goody2shooz · 25/05/2024 18:54

Probably to do with the dreadful weather and farmers being unable to plant stuff/mortality of sheep and lambs/crops rotting due to rain/late germination due to cold and rain etc etc

Platypuslover · 25/05/2024 18:53

This election was already planned in May. When we voted for local council then they told is we’d be back and gave the date.

they are doing it in July to hope for low turn out when people go on holiday.

they announced it now to push stuff through that otherwise might get picked up and pushed back on.

Katywester · 25/05/2024 18:50

Can you explain what the big 4 companies are actually asking you to do. Thanks

coupdetonnerre · 25/05/2024 18:49

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:33

Brexit nonsense has already been, largely, costed for.
This is new, the need to build a larger stockholding.
This is what happened just before the Covid shutdown.
I hope I am just being overly twitchy.
But we have been here before, with the same idiots.

Didn't they ask us to make sure we have enough food supplies for 3 days or so?

2Old2BABPpresenter · 25/05/2024 18:47

Haven’t read the rest of the thread but H5N1 bird flu has jumped from chickens to cattle in the US and cattle are now infecting each other…

Bayou2000 · 25/05/2024 18:34

The election was called in accordance with the school academic year in San Fran in mind and not much more…

gottogonow · 25/05/2024 18:33

They probably need 4 weeks supply because someone has stated we need to stock up and everyone is racing for the toilet roll.

OldPerson · 25/05/2024 18:30

I love a good conspiracy theory.

However, it was only in January 2024, that the Government focus finally kick-started into action after Brexit.

They are finally focussing on all the UK farmers who were paid handsomely by the EU not to produce food (paid 2.4 billion annually). Just paid for fields doing nothing. No workers. No investment in the land.

Who are still being paid 2.4 billion annually by the UK tax payer not to farm.

Yes young people - since 1970 - European (including UK) farmers produced/ were able to produce so much food there were "butter mountains" and food destroyed on an industrial scale to keep food prices artificially high (aka profitable for all Eurpoean suppliers and commercial companies)

But the Government has finally woken up and said - actually it might be a better idea if we paid UK farmers to get off their very knowledgeable backsides and actually produce food, instead of continuing to pay them not to produce food.

So I suspect this is behind the re-negotiation of contracts.

envbeckyc · 25/05/2024 18:28

We have extreme weather all winter both in the UK and overseas which will impact on harvests, and could impact supply chains.

Coupled with new Brexit regulations about to be implemented I can see why supermarkets would want to increase their stocks to improve their resilience.

We also had water supplies contaminated recently too!

I doubt there is any sort of conspiracy, just risk management assessments.

The harvest issues are well documented

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68792017.amp

Flooded fields

UK food production at threat after extreme flooding - BBC News

Record-breaking rainfall leaves fields under water, threatening this year's harvest yield and quality.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68792017.amp

MotherFeministWoman · 25/05/2024 18:10

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 17:45

See recent legislation For egs
. Bregs on new builds. For example. Old legislation ( cons ) re time allowed for marriage status change with interim certs and Labours proposal on removing this Etc.

I have no idea what this means.

mydogisthebest · 25/05/2024 18:03

JenniferBooth · 25/05/2024 17:53

Will be happy to let you know what our housing officer thinks of our stockpile when she comes to do the property inspection.

MN hypocrisy

Surely unless your stockpile made it difficult to get into any of the rooms they wouldn't care?

Also if things were on top of the wardrobe or behind a sofa how would they even be seen unless the housing officer is such a snoop that they search everywhere?

I hope if they do honestly object that they will be supplying you with food if and when you don't have any and can't get any

newmum777 · 25/05/2024 17:55

Also we have just had the worst winter and spring for farmers in generations (well in my part of the country! So there are likely food shortages due to that …

wasdarknowblond · 25/05/2024 17:54

It’s the Tories peddling ‘project fear’ again. They are trying to make things as difficult for Labour as possible and as usual, they are thinking of their own selfish ends and not how the public might feel. To them we are just a bunch of fools who follow social media like sheep. It’s far more likely to do with Brexit and Dowden’s stupid remarks about stocking up. The sooner that lot are gone the better. I can’t wait to see the back of them.

JenniferBooth · 25/05/2024 17:53

mydogisthebest · 24/05/2024 08:20

Everyone has some space somewhere. Top of wardrobe, loft, behind sofa etc etc etc.

Also if you buy 1 extra item when you shop it doesn't cost much. You can get a bag of pasta for under £1.

Will be happy to let you know what our housing officer thinks of our stockpile when she comes to do the property inspection.

MN hypocrisy

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 17:45

MotherFeministWoman · 25/05/2024 17:36

Is there? How are they planning on making things physically, practically better for women?

See recent legislation For egs
. Bregs on new builds. For example. Old legislation ( cons ) re time allowed for marriage status change with interim certs and Labours proposal on removing this Etc.

MotherFeministWoman · 25/05/2024 17:36

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 17:15

There’s only one party dealing with it though!

Is there? How are they planning on making things physically, practically better for women?

JenniferBooth · 25/05/2024 17:26

Gunnersforthecup · 24/05/2024 06:39

You see, I don't agree. I think people might say, oh, I'd never do that again, if you asked them now - but if war was declared, say, they would by and large get on with following the various advice.

Also, nothing predicts behaviour more than past behaviour. Covid was unusual in that the mortality was very low for many groups and especially for children. If we had an outbreak of flu, say, where the clinical risk profile was evolving but the mortality was higher, or children were unduly affected, I think people would be careful to follow guidelines, mostly.

So what happens when working parents are too scared to go to work

MistressoftheDarkSide · 25/05/2024 17:22

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 17:15

There’s only one party dealing with it though!

Orpossibly paying lip service to what could be a vote catcher.

There was a thread a few weeks ago where people were prepared to vote Tory purely on thus single issue.

Frankly I'd rather have housing, the COL etc as priorities over culture wars of any description. Not that I think there's a party worth voting for at all these days. It's all about the optics and chasing votes by fair means or foul, and bugger keeping the manifesto "promises once the game has been won.

Because that's all life seems to be at the moment - one big game.

GivePeaceAChance · 25/05/2024 17:15

MotherFeministWoman · 25/05/2024 16:38

Because there is no misogyny in the other partys

There’s only one party dealing with it though!

Unformidable · 25/05/2024 17:13

Kandalama · 25/05/2024 16:12

Not so niche as 51% of the population are women

This!

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