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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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BettyBoo246 · 25/05/2024 22:42

The government have updated their website this last week to advise how to deal (stock up) with an emergency i.e war, plandemic, blackouts etc. Also we are apparently already at war with Russia according to some mps and ngos and Sunak made it clear he didn't want to be a wartime pm hence then early election call.

Igotjelly · 25/05/2024 22:40

Feelinghappytodaywow · 25/05/2024 22:35

Ffs, feeling sick reading the rest of this. Is something going to happen, do we need to be worried or all just a silly thread

I’d be very surprised if anything significant other than what’s already going on were about to happen.

Paul2023 · 25/05/2024 22:36

It makes me annoyed when I hear about panic buying ! Seriously, if the shit hit the fan and war broke out , what good would a few extra cans of soup or beans do ?!

If things got that bad a bit of extra food would make fuck all difference!

Feelinghappytodaywow · 25/05/2024 22:35

Ffs, feeling sick reading the rest of this. Is something going to happen, do we need to be worried or all just a silly thread

Igotjelly · 25/05/2024 22:32

Prawnbacteria · 25/05/2024 22:08

You and me both. I'd managed to miss the thread yesterday and am wishing I never opened it today.

I can't even look at my beautiful children thinking I have done this to them. I should never have brought them into this world.

I am in absolute panic. If anyone has any reassuring words to get me out of this pit I would appreciate it.

The World is one big old mess at the moment and unfortunately there’s no getting away from that. That does not mean however that you are at risk of harm from imminent nuclear war (*other apocalyptic scenarios are available). It means we should be bloody grateful for what we have, and that we can offer our children relative stability and security. It’s a luxury denied to many.

There is absolutely no need for anyone to be in a spiral of panic. Some people on this thread should be ashamed of baseless scaremongering. incidentally I wonder if at least some of them might not be as they seem.

Devonbabs · 25/05/2024 22:31

mjf981 · 25/05/2024 21:57

2 major concerns in my view:

  1. Bird flu mutating. It’s a big concern. People now being infected from dairy cattle in America.
  2. Climate change. This is the big one. The charts of unprecedented warming are shocking, especially over the past 2 years. We are in uncharted territory, and it’s kicking off far quicker than scientists predicted. And we are doing next to nothing to mitigate it, so the trajectory remains straight up.

Both of these things suggest potential
lockdown to me. We need cars back off the roads, hopefully it will make people reassess (clean) veganism as good on all fronts. We need to stop buying so much shit, fast fashion etc.

Exactlab · 25/05/2024 22:30

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:21

It isn't that stupid a concept.
This is what happened in food supply in 2020.

You’re right. It isn’t a stupid concept.

I’m in Australia we locked down later than most places.

Everyone thought it was going to be like contagion.

The problem was no one factored in was panic buying and how the supply chain works now compared to 20+ years ago and it was absolute madness.

Shops were stripped of inventory and they don’t keep it out the back anymore.

Everything is located off site and it’s transported from a warehouse somewhere. The problem was there wasn’t the inventory in those warehouses.

I think that you are onto something. The supermarkets are worried the panic buying that happened in 2020 will happen again and they are preparing for people to panic again.

The question is - what is going to happen in the next four weeks that people are going to panic over?

Devonbabs · 25/05/2024 22:26

Prawnbacteria · 25/05/2024 22:08

You and me both. I'd managed to miss the thread yesterday and am wishing I never opened it today.

I can't even look at my beautiful children thinking I have done this to them. I should never have brought them into this world.

I am in absolute panic. If anyone has any reassuring words to get me out of this pit I would appreciate it.

Throughout history there’s been so many wars, so many disasters it’s just part of life. The majority of people are absolutely fine. The only thing that’s different to how life has nearly always been is the visibility of the bad things.

marie3e · 25/05/2024 22:24

I made an Amazon basket, but I thought I will need a fire pit if things go that bad to need all this, and I've decided not to buy any of it, and I don't care

BloodyHellKenAgain · 25/05/2024 22:22

Wonderfulstuff · 25/05/2024 21:51

Yep I had to have the MMR in my 30s on the advice of Public Health England (as it was then) for reasons that I won't go into. The vaccination nurse at my surgery said that it was open to anyone who wanted it but most people aren't aware of the issues with the older single vaccine. And honestly I wasn't either.

I didn't know that about the old single vaccines. Fortunately I've had mumps and German measles though 😁

Clarabell77 · 25/05/2024 22:21

I’ve heard speculation that the Palestine situation is going to escalate.

Prawnbacteria · 25/05/2024 22:08

Iamawomenphenominally · 24/05/2024 16:14

This is a terrifying read when you suffer with anxiety. 😔

I barely scraped through the whole COVID /lockdowns saga mental health wise and I'm still not back to how I was before.

I'm torn between making a list of stockpiling items or googling easy ways out tbvh.

You and me both. I'd managed to miss the thread yesterday and am wishing I never opened it today.

I can't even look at my beautiful children thinking I have done this to them. I should never have brought them into this world.

I am in absolute panic. If anyone has any reassuring words to get me out of this pit I would appreciate it.

Paul2023 · 25/05/2024 21:59

I think it’s entirely possible that a Cold War could start again. Putin can keep his war going , as long as he wants and it’s possible he won’t stop at Ukraine. Ukraine is only able to fight because they are being funded by NATO countries.

If that happened though, I don’t see how having an extra 3 days worth of food will help us !

So yes, as I said -a threat of war is possible.

mjf981 · 25/05/2024 21:57

2 major concerns in my view:

  1. Bird flu mutating. It’s a big concern. People now being infected from dairy cattle in America.
  2. Climate change. This is the big one. The charts of unprecedented warming are shocking, especially over the past 2 years. We are in uncharted territory, and it’s kicking off far quicker than scientists predicted. And we are doing next to nothing to mitigate it, so the trajectory remains straight up.
Catlicker · 25/05/2024 21:52

The photo below is an example of a copied text meant to look like it’s been posted by very different people (ie someone like you, a Palestinian supporter, an Israeli supporter and an LFC supporter in this example).

I think we’ve also seen this evidenced on Mumsnet this week with a number of posts about some unknown imminent disaster, purely designed to terrify people into not voting for an ‘unknown.’

this is a tactic we’ve also heard Rishi Sunak use in person. “The next few years are going to be both "dangerous" and "transformational" for the UK, the prime minister warned multiple times while rolling out sample pillars of his election manifesto”

Whomever you vote for just make sure you’re looking at facts and not being manipulated.

To think we are being lined up for something?
Paul2023 · 25/05/2024 21:51

Christ don’t get the idiots out panic buying the loo roll again …

Wonderfulstuff · 25/05/2024 21:51

pollymere · 25/05/2024 21:10

I suspect there is a flooding worry. Although the discussions about disease are interesting. Measles and Whooping cough both have vaccines. However in the late seventies and early eighties many were vaccinated with a vaccine later found to not be effective. They had a revaccination programme in the mid nineties but anyone born in 1977 or earlier didn't qualify at the time. So you've a whole load of people in their late forties and early fifties who are vulnerable for measles, mumps and rubella. I got my MMR in my thirties when I found out.

Yep I had to have the MMR in my 30s on the advice of Public Health England (as it was then) for reasons that I won't go into. The vaccination nurse at my surgery said that it was open to anyone who wanted it but most people aren't aware of the issues with the older single vaccine. And honestly I wasn't either.

Daftlass88 · 25/05/2024 21:48

BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

I'm hearing you BeverForget. I get a feeling that something is coming.

Isinglass20 · 25/05/2024 21:46

Think you’re all missing the elephant in the room - Trump. Almost certainly likely to be the next President- the friend of Putin and other dictators
and certainly won’t support Ukraine.
I suspect Richi didn’t want to have to face up to him, societal misapprehension is based on the fear of what Trump will do or not do

Wonderfulstuff · 25/05/2024 21:44

I think I've still got 4 bags of cauliflower in the freezer that were substituted for a fresh head of broccoli at the start of lockdown so we'll be OK just a bit farty.

Seriously though, 4 week supply makes sense given that we have brexit changes coming into force (why oh why did anyone vote for that shit show?), Houthis pissing about in the red sea, Russia trying to take control in the black sea and anywhere else that takes its fancy plus a dreadful season for UK farmers. Combine that with the ongoing cyber attacks that are taking place on supermarket payment systems and it doesn't take much to think that we are a very easy country to starve as is the tactic in Yemen, Palestine etc.

But to avoid my head from exploding I'm just going to pretty much carry on as normal.

Badgertime · 25/05/2024 21:44

Whu · 23/05/2024 22:36

Well the government did actually do a weird announcement yesterday morning about stockpiling 3 days food and water and other things ‘just in case’. It was then of course completely overshadowed by the election being called.

Yes, i thought they had. Can't remember where I saw it.

pollymere · 25/05/2024 21:10

I suspect there is a flooding worry. Although the discussions about disease are interesting. Measles and Whooping cough both have vaccines. However in the late seventies and early eighties many were vaccinated with a vaccine later found to not be effective. They had a revaccination programme in the mid nineties but anyone born in 1977 or earlier didn't qualify at the time. So you've a whole load of people in their late forties and early fifties who are vulnerable for measles, mumps and rubella. I got my MMR in my thirties when I found out.

Sasqwatch · 25/05/2024 21:07

DappledThings · 25/05/2024 20:45

I worked in medical supplies/food and the higher ups knew well before COVID became a crises and already had a script and plan.
Preparedness and continuity planning is sensible policy. It isn't evidence of conspiracy. Planning for something that might happen isn't the same as planning to make it happen.

Well said @DappledThings

OokBook · 25/05/2024 21:07

MibsXX · 24/05/2024 14:13

Ok, whatever may or may not be going to happen this year, may I suggest that there really is feck all any of us can do about it, so how about we all simply look forward to a nice warm summer, do something fun every day, take joy in hearing birdsong, smile and say hi to a stranger when out walking, and learn to appreciate the life we do have each and every day. One day at a time.

💗

OokBook · 25/05/2024 21:05

Mydietstartstomorrow · 24/05/2024 13:46

I can’t stock up I’ve got a teenager in the house that devours everything in a couple of days! I’m proper fc**d then! 😂

🤣 also this