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To think we are being lined up for something?

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BeverForget · 23/05/2024 22:09

I work in food supply chain.
Four of the 'big' grocery retailers have just asked to renegotiate at least four weeks min supply, as opposed to two.
This happened in Feb 2020 as well.
Lots of rhetoric about being on a war footing, from politicos.
And then Sunak essentially jumping ship yesterday, as though he knows there is a crisis on the horizon that he wants no part of.
There is no way that the Tories have a prayer in a July election.
So what do they know that they aren't telling us?

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Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 01:19

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 00:18

I think you know exactly the point I was trying to make. We all talk about things everyday that aren’t our own specific reality. It doesn’t make our views on them any less valid.

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I actually don’t know the point you were trying to make and evidently you don’t understand the point I am making as your opinion which is as far as I can see essentially is- isn’t it a great idea to make others carry out National Service, is made on the basis of being secure in the knowledge this will not be something you will be made to do.

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 01:14

gypsy22 · 26/05/2024 00:46

likely on the brink of war with so many situations in the world so it’s not an unreasonable post as there’s all sorts of shit going on that nobody is gonna tell us about till it’s hit the fan.

For goodness sake,stop.

gypsy22 · 26/05/2024 00:46

likely on the brink of war with so many situations in the world so it’s not an unreasonable post as there’s all sorts of shit going on that nobody is gonna tell us about till it’s hit the fan.

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 00:39

Sunhatweather · 26/05/2024 00:36

Yes, I be very happy to send my hardworking 18yr old for national service, delaying his career and further education to fight in wars that have very little to do with us and started by politicians🙄
Have we learned nothing from the past?

Have you read the article describing what would actually happen?

Sunhatweather · 26/05/2024 00:36

Yes, I be very happy to send my hardworking 18yr old for national service, delaying his career and further education to fight in wars that have very little to do with us and started by politicians🙄
Have we learned nothing from the past?

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 00:18

Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 00:16

You don’t fit the description so you are a very old man that was conscripted? If not easy to say it is a good idea when it will not be your reality.

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I think you know exactly the point I was trying to make. We all talk about things everyday that aren’t our own specific reality. It doesn’t make our views on them any less valid.

Goldenbear · 26/05/2024 00:16

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 00:10

I don’t fit this description, but I think National Service as it’s being suggested is a great idea.

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You don’t fit the description so you are a very old man that was conscripted? If not easy to say it is a good idea when it will not be your reality.

Delawear · 26/05/2024 00:15

Jenasaurus · 26/05/2024 00:03

Rishi Sunak says he will bring back National Service if Tories win general election | Politics News | Sky News

This has just appeared on sky news

Sunak is desperate, won’t happen

WinterMorn · 26/05/2024 00:10

Goldenbear · 25/05/2024 23:17

It’s just trying to appeal to extreme right wing Reform voters none of which unless very old would have had to be conscripted! Complete hypocrisy!

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I don’t fit this description, but I think National Service as it’s being suggested is a great idea.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 26/05/2024 00:04

Rishi needs to take a nap and give his head a wobble.

Paul2023 · 25/05/2024 23:37

Technically, I think we would
be in a state of war if Russian planes flew over NATO airspace of vice versa.
It’s very political. It only takes someone to say something which can start a state of war.

Weirdly, Putin was quite sympathetic towards America after the 911 attacks. Shows how times change.

justasking111 · 25/05/2024 23:30

Goldenbear · 25/05/2024 23:17

It’s just trying to appeal to extreme right wing Reform voters none of which unless very old would have had to be conscripted! Complete hypocrisy!

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I'm sick and tired of this nudge theory, which really took off under Dominic Cummings the arse hole thought he had it cracked. For a time he did.

"Coronavirus: the politics of Cummings’ cull | Counterfire" https://www.counterfire.org/article/coronavirus-the-politics-of-cummings-cull/

Coronavirus: the politics of Cummings’ cull

Not as stupid as was hoped, ordinary working people can resist Cummings and his super-weirdos, writes Sean Ledwith In the science-fiction television series, The Expanse, a profit-driven corporation, conspiring with rogue elements of the state, presi...

https://www.counterfire.org/article/coronavirus-the-politics-of-cummings-cull

justasking111 · 25/05/2024 23:23

1962 Cuban missile crisis. I was six, my brother 3, my mother pregnant. My father had a plan to protect us from nuclear war following John F Kennedy speech to the nation.

1980s with babies of my own we faced it again.

"Growing up in the 80s meant living in fear of the bomb – now, thanks to Putin, so are today’s teens | Nuclear weapons | The Guardian" https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/80s-bomb-putin-teenagers-armageddon-pandemic-climate-crisis

So for those who are fearful. We've been down this road before.

Growing up in the 80s meant living in fear of the bomb – now, thanks to Putin, so are today’s teens | Nuclear weapons | The Guardian

The threat of Armageddon was always in the background – but now young people have to deal with the pandemic and climate crisis too<br>

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/80s-bomb-putin-teenagers-armageddon-pandemic-climate-crisis

Goldenbear · 25/05/2024 23:17

Goldenbear · 25/05/2024 23:15

It’s a terrible idea, there are reasons we got rid of conscription to begin with!

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It’s just trying to appeal to extreme right wing Reform voters none of which unless very old would have had to be conscripted! Complete hypocrisy!

Goldenbear · 25/05/2024 23:15

Igotjelly · 25/05/2024 22:50

And in fact reading about it (noting I hate the Tories) it’s a great idea. Doesn’t necessarily need to be military service, can also take the form of supporting the emergency services.

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It’s a terrible idea, there are reasons we got rid of conscription to begin with!

HappyMe6 · 25/05/2024 23:06

Anyone taking the meds called Cellcept please,

SapphireSeptember · 25/05/2024 22:59

Prawnbacteria · 25/05/2024 22:08

You and me both. I'd managed to miss the thread yesterday and am wishing I never opened it today.

I can't even look at my beautiful children thinking I have done this to them. I should never have brought them into this world.

I am in absolute panic. If anyone has any reassuring words to get me out of this pit I would appreciate it.

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💐 I'm sorry. Feeling a bit scared myself. My first baby is due in July and I'm wondering what on earth is going on. Knowing there's nothing I can do if things really kick off is helping. Children are brought into the world through all sorts of thing. Just remember it's not your fault. ❤️

JenniferBooth · 25/05/2024 22:56

National Service? They really have taken leave of their senses

Holycows · 25/05/2024 22:53

Yes they have to be the slow ones,otherwise I'm done for 😂

Igotjelly · 25/05/2024 22:50

Igotjelly · 25/05/2024 22:48

It would be from Sept 2025 so for those panicking does not point to imminent doom.

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And in fact reading about it (noting I hate the Tories) it’s a great idea. Doesn’t necessarily need to be military service, can also take the form of supporting the emergency services.

Holycows · 25/05/2024 22:49

Sweden99 · 24/05/2024 07:35

My sister worked in ICU, which was filled up during the waves with people dying. Once the vaccine came along, the only people in there were unvaccinated.
My close friend all the way over in North Carolina had the same experience.
Both have retired from ICU since.

Much of what you wrote is untrue.
I am sorry that Covid hurt your feelings by making you feel unimportant. But you should refrain from posting poison.

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This.

Igotjelly · 25/05/2024 22:48

SpoonyFish · 25/05/2024 22:44

I just read that Sunak has announced national service for 18 year olds if Tories get re-elected ... it feels like they don't even want to win?!

It would be from Sept 2025 so for those panicking does not point to imminent doom.

Bjorkdidit · 25/05/2024 22:46

Feelinghappytodaywow · 25/05/2024 22:35

Ffs, feeling sick reading the rest of this. Is something going to happen, do we need to be worried or all just a silly thread

It's basic emergency planning for a range of scenarios from localised bad weather to the end of the world and everything in between.

It's all been in place for decades and it just happens to have been mentioned as official advice again. This thread clearly shows that the public needs to be reminded of the plan more often, so they take note of it and get used to its existence.

Having a bit of spare food in is not designed to protect people against nuclear war, just to give people a bit of resilience so they don't run out at an inconvenient moment, eg when the weather is bad. Or if there's a giltch in the banking system and you can't pay for things.

It's just like the emergency services. The presence of fire engines, police officers and ambulances doesn't mean that you should expect your house to burn down, to get robbed and to have a heart attack. They just there to help out if those things happen.

SpoonyFish · 25/05/2024 22:44

I just read that Sunak has announced national service for 18 year olds if Tories get re-elected ... it feels like they don't even want to win?!

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