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What do do about this? Tooth extraction

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holybaloni · 23/05/2024 19:45

I'm on the waiting list to have a wisdom tooth removed and also the tooth next to it. The wisdom tooth isn't decayed but apparently it has caused the decay of the molar next to it. The dentist has advised I'll have a long wait of up to a year before I can get these surgically removed at the hospital.
It's been mostly fine since referral a few months ago but recently I've started to feel a bit of pressure in my jaw area and I've been getting headaches. I have sensitivity on that side when chewing crunchy things too.
I'm aware it's probably the tooth getting worse but I really don't know what to do. Is it worth having antibiotics? It seems such a long time to wait for something that can turn very painful very quickly.

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holybaloni · 29/05/2024 07:00

£400 is actually cheaper than I'd thought for something like this. I think the sister dental surgery is a Bupa that offers both private and NHS dentistry. I'm going to ring them if a referral hasn't arrived by the end of the week.
Thankfully I do have savings that would cover this if really necessary but how bloody unfair for people who can't afford it to have to wait over a year with such pain and health complications.

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Jumpingthruhoops · 29/05/2024 01:15

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 19:43

@SleepySheepy that sounds horrendous. I am quite pleased that they have advised extraction for both because sometimes trying to save them with root canal and fillings seems to just make them flare up more. As was obviously the case for you.

It's just the wait. And the discomfort in the meantime. As I said it isn't horrific right now but I feel like it could get that way.

I had all four wisdoms out at once at the dentist in my teens. Was in the chair all of half an hour. So I'm confused as to why they're saying you have to wait a year.

Can you afford to pay privately, just to get it done? If so, you'll likely be able to have your extraction(s) next week... and likely by the same dentist.

My DH has recently had a whole lot of dental work (root canal, crown etc) done which, all in, has cost us the best part of £2k - part NHS/part private - but all work carried out by the same dentist, who's basically admitted to doing the best job 'we' can afford. As opposed to THE best job.

At this point, I'm convinced dentists just see the ££££s!

Sophie3003 · 28/05/2024 23:25

@holybaloni my husband had his four wisdom teeth out privately, including one with stitches, two were at bad angles and black and broken into bits and it cost around £400. This was with local anaesthetic and was with a dental surgery that had a dental surgeon. A lot cheaper than a private hospital.

holybaloni · 28/05/2024 22:49

I am actually starting to consider exploring private options. I can't afford it but the worry is getting me down. I've been a bit unwell this week with a sore throat, headache, very tired etc and while I'm sure it's probably just a standard virus I keep wondering if it's anything to do with the tooth. It's a horrid feeling knowing that something is decaying in your mouth and possibly causing infection and deeper issues. The pain is still there as a dull ache. Not unmanageable but I can only see it getting worse.
I have decided to give it a week and see if a referral date for the sister surgery comes through and if not I'll start looking into private dentists. I really want it removing and recovered by the time we go abroad in late July.
It doesn't help that I've been reading horror stories on google about all the possible complications.

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2Old2Tango · 27/05/2024 22:04

The long waiting lists is because the hospitals do it for free on the NHS and there are simply not enough oral surgeons to cope with the NHS demand. If the sister surgery can't do it then the alternative is to have it done privately if you can afford it. My DD had all four wisdoms out within a few weeks of referral (two were growing completely horizontal) but of course it wasn't cheap.

holybaloni · 27/05/2024 21:57

Sorry to resurrect the thread but just noticed the molar actually feels a little bit wobbly. Freaked me out a bit.
I'm taking 2 paracetamol 2-3 times a day and it's keeping the dull ache under control but I can't believe people are actually expected to live like this for up to a year while more issues can develop.
I have spoken to my dentist again and they've agreed to send another referral through to a sister surgery in a different city who may be able to do it much sooner but it all feels really up in the air at the moment.

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Balloonhearts · 25/05/2024 22:54

Can they not pull the molar under local anesthetic? Same time is preferable from their pov as saves time and money but if its hurting you then I think they may be able to. Ask them. Don't wait till it becomes a bigger problem.

Mossstitch · 25/05/2024 22:50

@holybaloni it did but it did flare up several times and made him feel rotten with raised temperature. Each time it got a little worse but he only had the antibiotics the last time and stronger painkillers from the GP, the earlier times he managed with paracetomol and ibruphren. He wasn't given any option but to wait for the general anaesthetic at the hospital although he did ring the hospital department up to try to expedite it a couple of times as he works in the same hospital. Worth a try and offer to take any cancellations that come up. These types of extractions are too complex for a normal dentist, apparently they sometimes have to take bone from the jaw to get them out , not trying to frighten you as he was absolutely fine having it done, he had the other side taken out too at the same time as that was impacted also, although the tooth next to that one was OK. He needed a few days off work after it.

penjil · 25/05/2024 00:38

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 11:54

@Bignanna because it's a wisdom tooth and a problematic one at that (at an odd angle apparently). The dentist said it would be better done by an oral surgeon.

I would go and see a different dentist, or maybe a couple.

Get a second and third opinion.

Sometimes other dentists are more willing (and capable) of extracting them.

Some dentists may just be lazy and not want to do it, so refer instead.

Hedgerow2 · 24/05/2024 21:45

Have you opted to have the tooth out under a general anaesthetic? If so, you might be able to get it done more quickly under a local.

I had a partially erupted impacted wisdom tooth removed in hospital a couple of years ago. My dentist said there was about a 6 month wait to have it done under a local, but up to a year under a general. I opted for local and in the event only had to wait about 4 months.

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 21:38

Mossstitch · 24/05/2024 21:37

My son had exactly the same problem, impacted wisdom tooth had caused decay in the tooth next to it and needed extracting under general anaesthetic in hospital. He asked if the tooth with the decay could be removed by the normal dentist as he got an abscess under it but was told not. I can't remember the exact explanation but something like it would make it more difficult to get the impacted wisdom tooth out due to bone growth. He needed antibiotics and strong painkillers at one point. He actually waited three years in the end but the first year was due to a mistake in sending the referral by the dentist and the rest blamed on covid waiting lists. It was all fine in the end after the extractions.

Thank you for this. So did the painkillers and antibiotics keep the infections and pain under control until he got them removed? Thank you

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Mossstitch · 24/05/2024 21:37

My son had exactly the same problem, impacted wisdom tooth had caused decay in the tooth next to it and needed extracting under general anaesthetic in hospital. He asked if the tooth with the decay could be removed by the normal dentist as he got an abscess under it but was told not. I can't remember the exact explanation but something like it would make it more difficult to get the impacted wisdom tooth out due to bone growth. He needed antibiotics and strong painkillers at one point. He actually waited three years in the end but the first year was due to a mistake in sending the referral by the dentist and the rest blamed on covid waiting lists. It was all fine in the end after the extractions.

Purplevioletsherbert · 24/05/2024 20:03

I’d definitely ask if there’s a possibility of having it removed separately and sooner. I recently had mine removed on the NHS and the wait was just a couple of weeks, just outside London, so I suspect a private one would manage to fit you in!

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 19:43

@SleepySheepy that sounds horrendous. I am quite pleased that they have advised extraction for both because sometimes trying to save them with root canal and fillings seems to just make them flare up more. As was obviously the case for you.

It's just the wait. And the discomfort in the meantime. As I said it isn't horrific right now but I feel like it could get that way.

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SleepySheepy · 24/05/2024 19:25

I've had a very similar scenario - molar damaged by a sideways wisdom tooth. My dentist tried to save the molar by doing an extensive filling on it in October and referred me to the dental hospital to remove the wisdom tooth. From that moment onwards I was in agony with constant infections, constant back and forth, my dentist tried to remove the molar but couldn't get me numb and tried to do the removal 3 times where I could feel everything. After a lot of upset, back and forth, and constant pain, I was finally given an appointment last week to have the molar out under sedation. The wisdom tooth remains and they aren't bothered about removing it now the molar is out. It's been awful and traumatic so I really feel for you. If I'd have known how it was going to play out, I'd have found a way to pay the thousands to have it done privately.

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 19:08

I wasn't given the option to have them done separately, not really considered it to be honest. And it's the molar that decayed so you'd think it'd be the logical solution.

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10kgcookies · 24/05/2024 13:30

Purplevioletsherbert · 24/05/2024 12:55

i understand why the wisdom tooth needs to be extracted at a hospital, but can the molar not be extracted sooner?

It can be but the private dentists are all booked up apparently. Well mine is and if I try and find a new practice they charge me £200+ JUST for a “new patient consultation” and that’s without an x ray

Purplevioletsherbert · 24/05/2024 12:55

i understand why the wisdom tooth needs to be extracted at a hospital, but can the molar not be extracted sooner?

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 12:47

I think if it became an abscess they'd just prescribe antibiotics. It wouldn't make the extraction appointment any quicker. They manage it until they get round to taking it out which is a bloody long wait.

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10kgcookies · 24/05/2024 12:15

@Bignanna thats exactly how it works here as well. They literally wait until it’s abscess before referring to hospital. My dentist won’t even do his own root canal treatment 😂 that’s a referral as well (to an even pricier dental surgery which charges £290 for a new patient consultation on top of the £1k ish Root Canal Treatment!)

It’s an absolute piss take.

Thats a full months wages for me!

Bignanna · 24/05/2024 11:58

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 11:54

@Bignanna because it's a wisdom tooth and a problematic one at that (at an odd angle apparently). The dentist said it would be better done by an oral surgeon.

Perhaps your dentist could contact the hospital’s dental department and arrange for it to be done as an emergency? They shouldn’t wait until it’s at the abscess stage. A year long wait is unacceptable.

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 11:54

@Bignanna because it's a wisdom tooth and a problematic one at that (at an odd angle apparently). The dentist said it would be better done by an oral surgeon.

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Bignanna · 24/05/2024 11:53

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 11:34

@10kgcookies I'm no expert but I think when it gets past a certain point there is no saving the tooth. Root canal might help a bit in the short term but ultimately if the damage is bad enough it will end up coming out anyway. I'd just get it taken out, save yourself the additional pain and expense.
I'm baffled as to how there can be such long waiting lists for things that can be so painful, debilitating and potentially dangerous if left untreated. I'm getting by with paracetamol at the minute but the dentist said it could flare up badly at any time which is really worrying, we have abroad holidays coming up and I can't think of anything worse than getting a severe tooth infection while out of the country and unable to see a dentist quickly. It's really playing on my mind.

Why were you referred to the hospital? Can your own doctor not remove it?

holybaloni · 24/05/2024 11:50

@KreedKafer the isn't horrific. I think if it were infected it would feel a lot worse and I'd be feeling unwell in general (I had an abscess once and I was written off for a good week with the pain and lethargy).
But I think now I know it's decaying I'm constantly on high alert and possibly noticing the niggles and sensitivity more iyswim.
If it becomes a real issue I'll get some antibiotics but I just want it gone so I can forget about it now and stop worrying and waiting for a potential flare up.

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10kgcookies · 24/05/2024 11:39

@holybaloni I’m with you, I want it taken out but they keep saying 1) it’ll heal 2) RCT if you want it and 3) we will always try and save a tooth and extract only when necessary.

I just want it gone and I am also going abroad so want it sorted before August. Extraction waiting times are long as well here (South West)

I hope you get it sorted :(