Sick of vile vape smoke.

I don't smoke or vape but I love the marshmallowy smell of the fat clouds.

I can't stand weed though. It reeks.

@Wheelyfembot Imagine getting so worked up over a made-up condition entirely unrelated to vaping that you have to call a stranger a cunt

Y'all must be super sensitive to smells. I share an office with a vaper, and I don't smell anything or struggle to breathe at all

Jesus, people are so dramatic 🤣

I do agree with a PP though that some MNetters can get very over dramatic about it.

Some of us have lung conditions, thanks, and we certainly don't want it near our babies. That's not dramatic, it's just common sense. And it is common decency for smokers and vapers to stay away from others while doing it. Also, with all the focus on clean air both inside and outside, quite rightly so, it seems ridiculous to permit this. You should have to be a certain distance away from non-consenting people to smoke or vape, and it's you that has to move not them.

And we certainly shouldn't have the anomaly that smoking and vaping are allowed in open-style bus stops, on train platforms etc. You should not be allowed to cause smoking or vaping related smells to find their way into neighbouring properties either, that should be considered nuisance. If we were starting from scratch it would be absolutely clear that the current permissiveness on smoking or vaping - when it interferes with bystanders - is bonkers.

I was at an indoor concert last week and the two women in front of me vaped heavily throughout. Sadly the ushers did not see them

Had a sore chest by the end of the show.

Selfish buggers.

Hate to tell you OP but your kid's body is going to be exposed to far worse things in life. Their blood is probably infested with microplastics already.

Better put a message out before you climb in your car then.

@Cyanobacterium "As far as I am concerned, causing toxic smoke or vapour to end up in someone else's lungs without consent should be considered assault or poisoning."

That would have an interesting effect on the criminal justice system given that traffic exists. I don't consent to anyone poisoning me with their petrol and diesel vehicle exhaust fumes either.

I am sorry you have to live with such limitations, but thats not the fault of vapers - if no one could do a thing that someone, somewhere is allergic to... we'd all stay home and do nothing really!

I am allergic to fragrance mix I and balsam of Peru plus other things but those are the only ones relevant to this discussion. They are used in most commercial products from personal care, cleaning supplies, food, and yes, vapes. Flavoring often actually means fragrance.

yes, I do struggle to eat . I struggle to find things like toothpaste and shampoo. I struggle to leave my house. Last time I went to the doctor, even though they took precautions, I had an allergic reaction because they wiped some equipment down with something that wasn’t safe.

It's disgusting! We noticed it more than ever on holiday last year around the pool! It just constantly smelt sickly sweet and fruity! The flavours all seem so gross 🤢 Can't believe anyone wants to inhale the smell of sweets!

Vapers seem to be very inconsiderate of others though much more so than smokers...

I don't think vapers realise care how much blows out behind them and into the faces of passers by.

^^There, fixed it.

As far as I am concerned, causing toxic smoke or vapour to end up in someone else's lungs without consent should be considered assault or poisoning.

No they really don’t .

The smell of weed is the absolute worst. I can’t stand it. Who are these people who think it’s ok to smoke it on the streets?!

Yes I don't like it either. Its horrible!!!

One of the flavours knocks me sick, because it smells exactly like Pripsen threadworm medicine from the 1980s.

I’d rather get a good sniff of Silk Cut <nostalgia>

I think what we forget collectively is how much less people smoke now, and how gross the stench of cigarettes used to be.

I don't like the sweet smell particularly but it's way better than fag smoke IMO.

It smells a bit like burning candyfloss.

I do agree with a PP though that some MNetters can get very over dramatic about it.

It's just steam.. that's all.. and most household air fresheners smell much much worse

Well, vaping does make me feel ill.

Years ago, I was told that I have an allergic reaction to secondary smoking. When I got home and delivered the doctor's verdict, my dad - God bless him - stopped smoking on the spot. (That was 45 years ago.)

I'm assuming that my reaction to secondary vaping is similar.

I have a colleague that vapes. Its nowhere near as repulsive as cigarette smoke, but it’s a very unpleasant, cloying smell that lingers. He’s constantly embarrassed about it.

On the list of things that didn't happen...

@Wheelyfembot I laughed at your response, what an absolute joke.

As if second hand vapour causes nose bleeds and a consultant has confirmed this! So much handwringing.

And no @ReadingSoManyThreads I don't really care about the condition as you're calling people cunts.
I presume you don't get in hot baths, or wear deodorants or hairspray.

Or is it just the pink lemonade elf bar that does the trick.

Yes. Yes they are.

exhales huge cloud of Grape & Strawberry Candy flavour vapour

Very few adult vapers want to use tobacco flavours, most people think thats what they'll vape when they give up the fags and they try it for a short while and go off it pretty rapidly in favour of the sweet/fruit/candy/cake flavours.

To answer a few other points, I forget who made them:

'Im allergic to the flavourings'

you're allergic to all the flavours? Really, every single one? Wow. Because each flavour has different ingredients, all of which originate in the food industry, you must really struggle to eat anything.

Possibly you're allergic to one of the two base carriers in vapes, Propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin - both are safe and common food additives (and are found in many more products beyond food).

It's disgusting breathing in what someone else has breathed out

I can't really help you there - stop breathing in public places, invest in a plastic bubble to live in, wear a filtration mask and breath only filtered air?

Everywhere you go, you're breathing in what someone else breathed out, and more and much worse. You're breathing in the gas that comes out of peoples arses (and cat farts, dog farts, cow farts... so many farts) the exhaust fumes from yours and other peoples cars, planes, helicopters, boats and trains. Any time you're stuck in a room with other humans you're breathing in some of what they breathed out. There is no escape from this.

Vapers do not cause you to breath in more of this disgusting stuff, they just let you see that little portion that you're breathing in. If everything we churn out into our atmosphere came with a neat coloured cloud so we could see it... welllll.. ew.

It's worse than cigarette smoke

No. It isn't. Public Health Englands study into vaping and examination of multiple studies showed that for the secondary inhaler, ie you judgey grumpy non-vapers - it is absolutely, categorically, better than cigarette smoke.

The jury is out on whether its 100% safe for the primary user, me, the common, unclassy, disgusting vaper - but thats fine, we are well aware of that. It is still safer than smoking.