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To be glad we are finally getting an election

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frankentall · 22/05/2024 16:50

Rishi due to tell us at 5pm what the date is - smart money on 4th July perhaps pressaging his inevitable departure for the USA.

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HRTQueen · 22/05/2024 22:17

Yes I am very pleased

IClaudine · 22/05/2024 22:13

justasking111 · 22/05/2024 22:10

If they succeed they're really in the mire. Read the room, we've all had enough.

I think there would be a huge uproar if they tried this

At least I hope so!

justasking111 · 22/05/2024 22:10

IClaudine · 22/05/2024 21:59

This is hilarious. Tories trying to cancel the GE! What a shower of scum they are.

https://x.com/christopherhope/status/1793380451752800445
For those not on Twitter,:

Wow! Extraordinary but true - some furious Conservative MPs are tonight working on a plot to CALL OFF the general election by replacing Rishi Sunak as leader before Parliament is dissolved next Thursday.
One rebel Tory MP tells me he believes “several” more letters of no confidence in Sunak have been submitted to 1922 chairman Sir Graham Brady.
The MP: “Today has clearly been an absolute disaster but the election is NOT irrevocable; up until the point of the Dissolution of Parliament - when the writs are moved to begin the contests, it can still be aborted.
“In other words, if enough Tory MPs, who are clearly going to lose their seats in this already utterly shambolic campaign, write to Sir Graham Brady, tomorrow , the election could still be revoked.”

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If they succeed they're really in the mire. Read the room, we've all had enough.

IClaudine · 22/05/2024 21:59

This is hilarious. Tories trying to cancel the GE! What a shower of scum they are.

https://x.com/christopherhope/status/1793380451752800445
For those not on Twitter,:

Wow! Extraordinary but true - some furious Conservative MPs are tonight working on a plot to CALL OFF the general election by replacing Rishi Sunak as leader before Parliament is dissolved next Thursday.
One rebel Tory MP tells me he believes “several” more letters of no confidence in Sunak have been submitted to 1922 chairman Sir Graham Brady.
The MP: “Today has clearly been an absolute disaster but the election is NOT irrevocable; up until the point of the Dissolution of Parliament - when the writs are moved to begin the contests, it can still be aborted.
“In other words, if enough Tory MPs, who are clearly going to lose their seats in this already utterly shambolic campaign, write to Sir Graham Brady, tomorrow , the election could still be revoked.”

BIossomtoes · 22/05/2024 21:56

Flyhigher · 22/05/2024 21:53

And?

Flyhigher · 22/05/2024 21:53

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/

Churchview · 22/05/2024 21:50

@BurntBroccoli Please do. It's in the public domain (along with many other points including the cleanest air, drinking water and waterways ever, banning fox hunting, inpatient waiting lists down by 500,000, banning fur farming and testing of cosmetics on animals).

Makes me so very sad to think what the Conservatives have done to this country since.

https://www.shrewsburylabour.org.uk/labours-top-50-achievements/

BurntBroccoli · 22/05/2024 21:41

Churchview · 22/05/2024 21:01

The last Labour government's tangible improvements....

The longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s, low mortage rates, the National Minimum Wage, 14,000 more police, crime rate cut by 32%, record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools, 36,000 more teachers, 85,000 more nurse, 32,000 more doctors, heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.paternity leave, Sure Start Childrens Centres, the introduction of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty, 1 million social homes brought up to standard, 1.8 million people helped to find jobs, free entry to national museums and galleries.

Thanks may I copy this?!

Flyhigher · 22/05/2024 21:38

WalrusOfLove · 22/05/2024 20:59

I dislike the Tories but Labour have always been masters of wasting money. I can just see them raising taxes but not making any tangible improvement.

Please go and some actual research on this.
Not just reading the Daily Fail.

countrysidelife2024 · 22/05/2024 21:22

I'm happy about it just because If something isn't working, it needs change and that change may not be better but its certainly giving us a better chance than just sticking to what we know.

Martinii · 22/05/2024 21:19

Mummy2024 · 22/05/2024 21:08

I don't even mean just higher education tbh. They are now blaming disabled people for gaps in employment but in reality its skill shortages. I'm just so tired of trying to better my life, not to burden the state when I can no longer contribute to it, only for conservative policy to move the goal posts. House prices have doubled in since the pandemic, and you will see in all the news its 10% 20% but it isn't. I've been looking at houses since 2019, they have doubled and Rishi's tax relief in the pandemic caused it. They are slowly creeping down thankfully but not fast enough. I'm not even in poverty I live comfortably, I'm saving ontop but I know I'm destined for pensioner poverty and I've spoken to the housing minister department, they have no plans to improve things. So what am I meant to do? I'm done with them all tbh

I'm quite convinced that the skills gap stemmed from young people being encouraged to get a degree, even those who didn't to. Meaning the 'trades' were seen as some sort of failure as a career. When FOM came in, people from the EU flooded the country who were willing to do the jobs people now saw as beneath them when in fact the trades are great jobs and it made you want to scream to Tony Blair NOT EVERYONE HAS TO GO TO BLOODY UNI!
Housing, well that's not a recent thing. My ex bought his 3 bed detached house in a nice area for 99k in 1998. A decade later it was worth around 400k.

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/05/2024 21:17

Churchview · 22/05/2024 21:08

£290mill wasted on Rwanda
£2.3bn spent on cancelled parts of HS2
50m spent on a new helicopter for top Tories
Liz Truss's mini budget
Nightingale hospitals
PPE contracts given to mates = rubbish PPE

This. AND a lot more.

zaxxon · 22/05/2024 21:16

catlady7 · 22/05/2024 18:37

Never voted. Not going to start now

Why not? What have you got to lose by voting?

VickyEadieofThigh · 22/05/2024 21:16

Boomer55 · 22/05/2024 17:54

Poor Sunak. He was getting drenched, standing there, with music drowning him out…😂

You'd think someone might have looked out of the window and - I dunno - thought of some way of stopping him from getting drenched.

ThePoshUns · 22/05/2024 21:14

WalrusOfLove · 22/05/2024 20:53

My fear is they'll tax the shit out of us and we still won't see much tangible improvement (not that I'm a Tory fan either).

Taxes are higher now than they've ever been and public services are worse than ever.

IClaudine · 22/05/2024 21:12

Mummy2024 · 22/05/2024 21:08

I don't even mean just higher education tbh. They are now blaming disabled people for gaps in employment but in reality its skill shortages. I'm just so tired of trying to better my life, not to burden the state when I can no longer contribute to it, only for conservative policy to move the goal posts. House prices have doubled in since the pandemic, and you will see in all the news its 10% 20% but it isn't. I've been looking at houses since 2019, they have doubled and Rishi's tax relief in the pandemic caused it. They are slowly creeping down thankfully but not fast enough. I'm not even in poverty I live comfortably, I'm saving ontop but I know I'm destined for pensioner poverty and I've spoken to the housing minister department, they have no plans to improve things. So what am I meant to do? I'm done with them all tbh

What do you mean by housing minister department @Mummy2024 ? How can they say what a Labour government will do?

BurntBroccoli · 22/05/2024 21:09

@WithACatLikeTread
It's going to take years to put right all these Tory wrongs sadly.

Mummy2024 · 22/05/2024 21:08

Martinii · 22/05/2024 20:57

With higher education, I remember thinking at the time (as my generation were the ones they encouraged to go to uni despite not needing to), how is this sustainable in the long run? I don't want people to be charged but I can see why as under labour (education education education) every Tom dick and Harry went to uni which not only devalued a degree but made it harder for people who didn't go to uni to get jobs and work their way up from the bottom.

I don't even mean just higher education tbh. They are now blaming disabled people for gaps in employment but in reality its skill shortages. I'm just so tired of trying to better my life, not to burden the state when I can no longer contribute to it, only for conservative policy to move the goal posts. House prices have doubled in since the pandemic, and you will see in all the news its 10% 20% but it isn't. I've been looking at houses since 2019, they have doubled and Rishi's tax relief in the pandemic caused it. They are slowly creeping down thankfully but not fast enough. I'm not even in poverty I live comfortably, I'm saving ontop but I know I'm destined for pensioner poverty and I've spoken to the housing minister department, they have no plans to improve things. So what am I meant to do? I'm done with them all tbh

SpidersAreShitheads · 22/05/2024 21:08

I'm a Labour voter usually - can't stand the Tories. Corrupt, thieving bastards who have utterly fucked this country over.

I think Keir Starmer is a decent and principled man, and I think he'd be a good PM.

But...

A PP asked what would be worse under Labour and my answer is women's rights. Labour still won't answer the question of "what is a woman" and they are still committed to self-ID and making the process of legally becoming a woman easier.

I read the transcripts of the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre this week, and it's appalling how women were treated. A rape crisis centre, a registered charity, refused to help some female rape and sexual assault victims. Our vulnerable women in society need the protection of single sex spaces. Many, many women need single sex spaces for a whole host of reasons.

Labour will do damage to women's rights, women's single-sex spaces, and women's safety. I don't know how robustly they'll follow the recommendations from Cass, or whether they'll use the report as a springboard for further investigations (which the Conservatives have pledged to do).

Of course this isn't the only issue that matters, but it's an important one to me. Not everyone will care about this, or even think it should be a high priority, and that's fine. But I'm just answering the question about what issue might be worse under Labour.

If Labour could sort out their policies on single sex spaces and defining biological sex, I'd be dancing in the street right now. I await their manifesto with interest but I've followed everything they've said on this subject and there's nothing to suggest they're about to do a u-turn.

Churchview · 22/05/2024 21:08

WalrusOfLove · 22/05/2024 20:59

I dislike the Tories but Labour have always been masters of wasting money. I can just see them raising taxes but not making any tangible improvement.

£290mill wasted on Rwanda
£2.3bn spent on cancelled parts of HS2
50m spent on a new helicopter for top Tories
Liz Truss's mini budget
Nightingale hospitals
PPE contracts given to mates = rubbish PPE

BurntBroccoli · 22/05/2024 21:08

They've picked a transition time for students who will be moving out of their accommodation.
Need to make sure my son applies for a postal vote...

Martinii · 22/05/2024 21:05

Churchview · 22/05/2024 21:01

The last Labour government's tangible improvements....

The longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s, low mortage rates, the National Minimum Wage, 14,000 more police, crime rate cut by 32%, record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools, 36,000 more teachers, 85,000 more nurse, 32,000 more doctors, heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.paternity leave, Sure Start Childrens Centres, the introduction of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty, 1 million social homes brought up to standard, 1.8 million people helped to find jobs, free entry to national museums and galleries.

My ex sil is high up in the police force and used to despair of the crime rate statistics. She'd explain how they are manipulated worked out and certainly don't reflect reality. Ever since I've taken them with a pinch of salt no matter who's in government.

frankentall · 22/05/2024 21:02

WalrusOfLove · 22/05/2024 20:59

I dislike the Tories but Labour have always been masters of wasting money. I can just see them raising taxes but not making any tangible improvement.

This is just nonsense.

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Churchview · 22/05/2024 21:01

The last Labour government's tangible improvements....

The longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s, low mortage rates, the National Minimum Wage, 14,000 more police, crime rate cut by 32%, record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools, 36,000 more teachers, 85,000 more nurse, 32,000 more doctors, heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.paternity leave, Sure Start Childrens Centres, the introduction of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty, 1 million social homes brought up to standard, 1.8 million people helped to find jobs, free entry to national museums and galleries.

WalrusOfLove · 22/05/2024 20:59

I dislike the Tories but Labour have always been masters of wasting money. I can just see them raising taxes but not making any tangible improvement.