Irish PM: ‘We see Hamas as an illegal and disgusting terrorism organisation’

Op YANBU for your op. Completely agree with you (as an Irish woman)

However yabu to have any thread like this in AIBU . Mumsnet is not the most sympathetic to the Irish on the whole. Many here think we should stay in our box and remember our place and like to mansplain our history to us.

@UntiltheGirl How so?

@OkPedro i would argue that they didn't and that history will not remember them well on this at all despite the Dublin bombings but i think that would de rail this thread. Maybe start one in craicnet as i think you will get some interesting perspectives.

What a bizarrely under-informed post. Maybe educate yourself quite a lot more on Irish history.

Someone talking sense at last

I've heard chatter that migrants with certain sympathies see Ireland as a more attractive prospect due to all the public sympathy.

I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

I'm very interested to hear how you think the republic had no part to play in the NI peace process

Also, how exactly did Dublin ‘suck up’ to the British during the Troubles? By working through a multi year complex and ultimately successful peace process you mean..?

This statement really took me back. Do you really believe this? Do you believe that Dublin was proactive in solving the horrific 30 year war in the north? OMG....
This needs a whole other thread and you think they were part of the solution........

A new poll released by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research finds declining levels of support for Hamas in both the Gaza Strip and West Bank, though the percentage who believe the terror group’s October 7 onslaught was “correct” is virtually unchanged.
According to the survey, 71% of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank back the October 7 massacres in which in terrorists killed some 1,200 people and kidnapped 253 others, versus 72% who said so when the organization’s previous poll was published in December.
While the overall figure remained steady, support for atrocities increased from 57% to 71% in Gaza the past three months and dipped from 82% to 71% in the West Bank.

Along with Islamist group itself, respondents gave high marks to the Hamas leader in Gaza Yahya Sinwar over his conduct in the war, with 61% approving, though this was down some from 69% in December.
Among the other questions in the survey are who Palestinians would vote for if new parliament elections were held today. A plurality — 30% — say Hamas, followed by 14% for Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah movement, which was just below the 15% for none of the above. Six percent of respondents say they’ll back third parties while 36% won’t vote.

Worldwide population of those claiming Palestinian identity is estimated to be between 6 to 7 million people.

I find this announcement bizarre. Firstly it seems the way to get recognition and sympathy is to launch a war via a savage and barbaric terrorist attack on Israeli civilians. Most palestinians are very supportive of Hamas. If there was an election tomorrow hamas would win in the West Bank and Gaza, they are much more popular than the PA.

I also think Ireland is doing some kind of weird exorcism of their own ghosts here. The republicans of NI could only have dreamed of this kind of vocal support from Dublin during their fight for autonomy and freedom. No one condemned them more and sucked up to the British more than Dublin during the troubles, yet Dublin suddenly forgets to be neutral and falls over itself for a small number of people in a far off land who thoroughly support their current terrorist leadership.

What is it ? Cognitive dissonance? Who knows.

We shall see. They don´t have stable land (even less now) or stable leadership (just a bunch of terrorists voted in a decade or so ago). Who will foot the bill to keep this "nation" in existence? The U.S? the U.K? the E.U? All? None? And bearing in mind these few months won´t exactly have created more "moderates" in the region, do you think they will be voting in liberal democrats in future elections? If the winners of elections are again Hamas, whoever is head of this state, will they be presenting their credentials to those who recognise them as at the same level diplomats and politicians. Is the Irish or Norweigian or Spanish governement and Heads of State on the same level as Hamas? I am wondering many things and have many doubts. Our president (Spain) is spouting forth about this, he seems convinced, I am not.