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To think it’s a crime to pretend to be a registered doctor?

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Domino34 · 21/05/2024 22:53

Keep this short and sweet, please help me out!
I discovered that the ‘psychotherapist’ that ‘works for the nhs’ I’ve been having therapy sessions on the phone with, was actually not a doctor at all. Payed for by DH. I think I’ve been a victim of coercive control. Yet another tactic to manipulate me and be in a position of power. It sounds crazy, I know! My question is, is it a crime in the same way where if somebody pretended to be a police officer? I feel like my mind has been violated. I haven’t done anything about this. . . What can I do?

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NotbloodyGivingupYet · 22/05/2024 09:24

BobbyBiscuits · 22/05/2024 09:13

A psychotherapist is not a doctor and does not pretend to be one. A psychiatrist is a doctor.
Why does a therapist need to be a doctor, they are not prescribing medication?
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there.

At least read the OP's posts. This woman introduced herself to the OP as a doctor.

BloodyAdultDC · 22/05/2024 09:19

GivePeaceAChance · 21/05/2024 23:18

If they told you they were a doctor or sent anything declaring it then yes it’s against the law.
The same as architects and lawyers. They are protected professions in law.

MEDICAL 'doctors' only use the Dr as a professional courtesy - when they specialise into consultancy they go back to Mr/Mrs/Miss.

You could get a PhD for just about anything non-medical and absolutely refer to yourself as Doctor.

(Same with the occupation of Lawyer - you don't have to be an actual solicitor to call yourself a lawyer, just working in law/legal advice)

PoppingTomorrow · 22/05/2024 09:15

Domino34 · 21/05/2024 23:01

Yes, I have a voicemail on my phone where she says she has been busy today, working at a locus elsewhere, saying it’s doctor *. I have evidence in the form of a text also. I might be mixing the two up. I thought I was speaking to a therapist registered with the NHS.

They may have acted fraudulently.

Coercive control is a crime. Have you reported your DH to the police?

BobbyBiscuits · 22/05/2024 09:13

A psychotherapist is not a doctor and does not pretend to be one. A psychiatrist is a doctor.
Why does a therapist need to be a doctor, they are not prescribing medication?
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there.

CakeIsNotAvailable · 22/05/2024 09:09

As others have said, a PhD-qualified psychotherapist is perfectly entitled to call themselves Dr. But that isn't really the main issue here. @Domino34, from your messages I can tell you're feeling very scared, confused and upset. Can you reach out to your GP or another healthcare professional that you trust? Regardless of what your ex has or hasn't done, it sounds to me like you need a lot of support right now, and might benefit from seeing your doctor. I am a GP and if one of my patients was as upset as you I'd want you to come in so I could help and perhaps signpost/refer you to services which can help you. Take care

Domino34 · 22/05/2024 08:55

cakecoffeecakecoffee · 22/05/2024 08:24

I wouldn’t discount your baby having a passport. He may have got one without your knowledge.

Yes this has been mentioned a few times, and has got me thinking that I need to get to get something logged. I think womens aid, citizens advice for some advice in terms of the legalities surrounding baby, I’m hoping womens aid will be able to give me some clarity and help me get everything in order for me to be able to make a police report.

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DisforDarkChocolate · 22/05/2024 08:36

Check their title then you can find out who regulates them ie HCPC.

They may also be a non-medical doctor because the have a PhD in their field.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 22/05/2024 08:30

I'm assuming from your previous posts that you've never actually met this woman which is odd in itself if she was giving you counselling.

I'd make a report to the police OP about her (for deception) and your husband for being part of it and coercive control. There may well be no conviction but it will at least be on record if he applies for child access rights.

Good luck OP.

cakecoffeecakecoffee · 22/05/2024 08:24

I wouldn’t discount your baby having a passport. He may have got one without your knowledge.

Domino34 · 22/05/2024 08:14

MILLYmo0se · 22/05/2024 07:57

Yes you absolutely need to report it if for no other reason than if he tried to get visitation or custody at a later date. Your OP is a bit confusing, am I right in thinking now this woman has NO qualification re talking to your about your mental health, relationships etc? Or she is actually a psychotherapist but was part of a scam by DH regardless

She has no qualifications that is correct, In her picture she looks like a very vulnerable older woman, and she’s very well known in her town for being a drug user. Definitely does not have a phd and is not qualified in any way. I mean who in their right mind would go along with this?!

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Saschka · 22/05/2024 08:12

TerrorAustralis · 22/05/2024 08:02

I don't know about the UK, but where I am it's a crime to misrepresent yourself as a psychologist (same as a medical doctor, lawyer etc.). But the term psychotherapist is a bit more woolly and is not a protected term, AFIAK.

Not illegal here, but OP’s husband sending her to OW for fake “counselling” which is then reported straight back to him would definitely fall under coercive control. OW may be guilty of fraud. OP should definitely speak to the police.

TerrorAustralis · 22/05/2024 08:02

I don't know about the UK, but where I am it's a crime to misrepresent yourself as a psychologist (same as a medical doctor, lawyer etc.). But the term psychotherapist is a bit more woolly and is not a protected term, AFIAK.

MILLYmo0se · 22/05/2024 07:57

Yes you absolutely need to report it if for no other reason than if he tried to get visitation or custody at a later date. Your OP is a bit confusing, am I right in thinking now this woman has NO qualification re talking to your about your mental health, relationships etc? Or she is actually a psychotherapist but was part of a scam by DH regardless

Keepthosenamesgoing · 22/05/2024 07:50

The NHS doesn't "register" people. They are registered with the relevant professional bodies.

This person therefore may well be a DR ie have a PhD. They may also work for the NHS. That does not mean they are registered with the GMC as a medical doctor. If they posed as a medical doctor then yes you can report.
If they said "Dr Foster here and I'm busy today working at Gloucester Hospital" then that may be true regardless of their status as a GMC registered dr

TicTac80 · 22/05/2024 07:40

Your XH sounds disgusting. I think (like others have said), he got someone/anyone to pretend to be a counsellor, and coerced you into believing this and "having therapy". No proper professional counsellor would act in this way, nor would they suggest that they themselves supervise contact of a parent and child. Also, from what I remember about having counselling, I had to register with them, and have an initial appointment face to face (maybe things have changed). But I was able to check their details to ensure they were qualified etc.

I would report this to the police immediately, and if you have a solicitor or social worker dealing with things, let them know too, along with Women's Aid.

Bjorkdidit · 22/05/2024 07:26

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 21/05/2024 23:32

Your Husband feels like the bigger issue which needs reporting and from there an investigation will reveal if she is lying

Dr is a title which can be used by those with doctorates in many subjects

This. Coercive control is a crime, its him you need to report.

The therapist might be truthful about her qualifications, I know lots of people who are entitled to use the Dr title and work for the NHS without being medical doctor, the title covers many more roles than medicine.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 22/05/2024 00:48

Clinical psychologists have to have a doctorate and then can call themselves dr. She could have a doctorate and then be entitled to call herself doctor even if currently unemployed. No idea if that helps.

Domino34 · 22/05/2024 00:39

foxidale32 · 22/05/2024 00:17

I would think that if you're advertising yourself online as a Dr and acting like you're able to give people psychotherapy when you're not actually trained or have the qualifications then that surely is fraud

But if he's just given you a mobile number or got this woman to call you and say hi I'm dr Brenda your husband has booked me for you.
Then i would think it's more likely to come under domestic abuse, coercive control et cetera.

But i have no legal knowledge except google.
Best to speak to 101 or like others said womens aid

Thanks; it was the latter! Looking back now, I used to be so upset at all the horrible things he was doing, but he used to gaslight and make me feel as if it was all my fault. One day he said if you don’t get counselling we will get divorced. I found you a counsellor. And there we have it. Womens aid will be my first point of call.

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foxidale32 · 22/05/2024 00:17

I would think that if you're advertising yourself online as a Dr and acting like you're able to give people psychotherapy when you're not actually trained or have the qualifications then that surely is fraud

But if he's just given you a mobile number or got this woman to call you and say hi I'm dr Brenda your husband has booked me for you.
Then i would think it's more likely to come under domestic abuse, coercive control et cetera.

But i have no legal knowledge except google.
Best to speak to 101 or like others said womens aid

Domino34 · 22/05/2024 00:14

StormingNorman · 22/05/2024 00:13

@Domino34 You are not overreacting. This should all be recorded with the police tomorrow.

I’m pleased you and baby have been safe for a few months since this happened, but it is still worthwhile having an official record. Just in case you ever need it.

The poster above mentioned getting your child noted as an abduction risk with the police too.

You can’t be too careful when it comes to these shitty men!

The police will be quite familiar with some nationalities doing this as there aren’t the legal arrangements to bring the children back. They will take you seriously for both yours and your child’s safety.

Thank you so much. It does play on my mind, being extra careful about keeping my doors locked etc. constantly on edge.

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StormingNorman · 22/05/2024 00:13

@Domino34 You are not overreacting. This should all be recorded with the police tomorrow.

I’m pleased you and baby have been safe for a few months since this happened, but it is still worthwhile having an official record. Just in case you ever need it.

The poster above mentioned getting your child noted as an abduction risk with the police too.

You can’t be too careful when it comes to these shitty men!

The police will be quite familiar with some nationalities doing this as there aren’t the legal arrangements to bring the children back. They will take you seriously for both yours and your child’s safety.

Domino34 · 22/05/2024 00:12

TheChosenTwo · 22/05/2024 00:07

When you sent the photo of this woman around, who did you send it to? Your friends/family? Trusted people?
Very small world that it just happened to be someone that knew her. Can you trust your circle?
Sorry, this thread has many twists and turns.
how do you know she has no job at all?

i sent it to a trusted friend that lives in the same small town I knew this woman to be in. Everyone knows everyone there. My friend then called this woman so I could listen in and I confirmed it to be the same woman that I’d been talking to as a counsellor, I the. Played the voicemail of the doctor to my friend, and she confirmed it to be the same woman in the video. I’d lost contact with all my friends for years as I was isolated away from them by this man.

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Domino34 · 22/05/2024 00:08

Hairyhat · 22/05/2024 00:04

Are you sure your baby has no passport? Could the father have obtained one without your permission? Is he on the birth certificate?

He is on the birth certificate, although contact has been stopped to protect baby and I. I think I will go to citizens advice to see what I can do as he has broke every rule in the book in terms of violence, emotional abuse etc.

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TheChosenTwo · 22/05/2024 00:07

When you sent the photo of this woman around, who did you send it to? Your friends/family? Trusted people?
Very small world that it just happened to be someone that knew her. Can you trust your circle?
Sorry, this thread has many twists and turns.
how do you know she has no job at all?

lhlh · 22/05/2024 00:05

Police.
and get your child noted as a potential abduction