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Neighbours lit bonfire before 4pm

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Bonfiredrama · 21/05/2024 21:47

it was a very sunny day last week - I had 2 loads of washing out and my mum and kids were in the garden. Neighbours next door have a 3ft fence between our gardens. My kids were playing near the fence and my mum was sitting out watching them while I popped to the shop around 3.30.

The neighbour had started lighting a bonfire and chucking all sorts of stuff on it from around the garden (my mum said flames were about 6ft high)

My mum shouted over politely: ‘hey we have kids playing outside here and washing on the line, please can you put that out’. The neighbour can’t communicate very well in English but we usually get by with pleasantries etc. She started shouting and saying that my mum can’t tell her what to do and that she was being rude.

the daughter came out and my mum was explaining about the kids and the washing. The daughter screamed ‘I don’t give a fuck about your kids” - with my kids right there in earshot. My 6 year old could easily understand what she said.

I am fuming particularly about screaming in front of my kids. AIBU? What would you do? I have their landlord details but I don’t know what to do next. I don’t really want to go down the council route as we will have to declare it if we move house.

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Sunnyandsilly · 22/05/2024 21:27

Genuinely I’ve never heard anyone scream in my life. On here everyone is at it, and without provocation. They start screaming,

hyperbole much,

bananaramaterry · 22/05/2024 21:26

Bonfiredrama · 21/05/2024 22:26

Ok you’re all making me feel better. On the day when I caught the tail end, I asked the dad for them to let me know before they start one next time.

one of my mum’s concerns was that a spark could get over the fence and set the trampoline alight so I think she was panicking a bit. Our gardens are super narrow terraced and with low fences so I can understand the worry a little.

Are bonfires before 4pm more likely to do this then?

bananaramaterry · 22/05/2024 21:25

Bonfiredrama · 21/05/2024 22:26

Ok you’re all making me feel better. On the day when I caught the tail end, I asked the dad for them to let me know before they start one next time.

one of my mum’s concerns was that a spark could get over the fence and set the trampoline alight so I think she was panicking a bit. Our gardens are super narrow terraced and with low fences so I can understand the worry a little.

Does she always catastophise so much?

Beatrixslobber · 22/05/2024 18:37

Bonfiredrama · 21/05/2024 22:26

Ok you’re all making me feel better. On the day when I caught the tail end, I asked the dad for them to let me know before they start one next time.

one of my mum’s concerns was that a spark could get over the fence and set the trampoline alight so I think she was panicking a bit. Our gardens are super narrow terraced and with low fences so I can understand the worry a little.

Your mum needs help with her anxiety imo

sandyhappypeople · 22/05/2024 18:33

bananaramaterry · 22/05/2024 13:37

@sandyhappypeople some people think having a bonfire at anytime is selfish, how about that?

And you wouldn't have put it out with a hosepipe, ridiculous keyboard bluster!

🙄

I don't mind fires, but there's a time and a place, I think at 4pm is selfish personally, there is literally no reason they couldn't have done it two/three hours later when people's washing and kids are inside.. especially with a 3ft fence which isn't stopping any hot ash or smoke from blowing over.. it's typically of the me me me society we live in though, a lot of people don't care how their actions affect other people, and react badly when called out for it.. they're selfish twats, very much like the people that throw their rubbish out of car windows IMO.. that pisses me right off too.

If I was out with the hosepipe at the time this happened I would have 100% doused it, because her swearing in front of my kids would have tipped me over the edge in that moment.

If I had to get the garage keys, then get the hosepipe, then walk and connect it in the house, then go back out and do it.. you're right, I probably would have had a word with myself in the process and calmed down.

Littlestminnow · 22/05/2024 17:20

Christ, why can't we just have laws about bonfires and noisy power tools like sensible countries.

FuzzyWuzzyWuzABear · 22/05/2024 16:17

Theunamedcat · 22/05/2024 14:30

They arnt allowed in our area we are clean air zoned people still have them I had one at 1am during lockdown because all the tips were closed the following week they relaxed the rules for excess paper recycling so I could have saved myself the trouble 😂

My neighbours are probably a good reason for banning them he burns everything one time he had a huge bonfire during a drought set fire to his neighbours hedge fence tree and part their garden

Joyful

People still have them because they are allowed...

Smoke control areas: the rules

In smoke control areas you can only use certain types of fuel or exempt appliances - find out if you live in one and what you can burn

https://www.gov.uk/smoke-control-area-rules

Crumpleton · 22/05/2024 15:12

TBF I'm surprised more councils don't enforce a no smoke/bonfire zone but by not doing so it can only be assumed that burning lord knows what and sending smelly bonfire smoke into the air it doesn't damage the environment at all.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 22/05/2024 15:02

It's really inconsiderate to have a bonfire when the weather is nice enough for people to be outside enjoying their gardens. Very occasionally someone will do it where I live and the local WhatsApp group explodes with rage! Some people really have no consideration for how their actions affect others. It baffles me.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 22/05/2024 15:00

Ticktapticktap · 22/05/2024 12:51

I've had a neighbour insist I put a bonfire out and it really did cause way more smoke than letting it die out naturally.

It is bad not to check if people have their washing out, I'd always do this but I don't think I'd think to think about other people's kids playing out to be honest. Is it bad for them?

Yes breathing in smoke is bad for children. It's bad for everyone. Surely you've heard about people dying from smoke inhalation?

Bellaboo01 · 22/05/2024 14:59

Bonfiredrama · 21/05/2024 21:59

the Council guidelines are not to cause a nuisance to neighbours by lighting bonfires so not to do it on a fine day when they are using their gardens, have vulnerable people around such as children / elderly (check and check) or have washing drying (check). Interested to see that some people would have no issue with it though.

So your council has actually put it in writing to not light a bonfire on a fine day, when people are using their gardens with children or elderly out or have washing drying!!! Surely this is a windup!?

Princesspollyyy · 22/05/2024 14:58

I would have just got the washing in, and got the kids in and told them to play inside.

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 22/05/2024 14:55

An occasional bonfire may be inconsiderate but as a one off, it is unlikely to be a statutory nuisance, unless it is for an extended period of time.

LordSnot · 22/05/2024 14:54

Your kids aren't the centre of the universe. I'd have apologised for my mum attempting to dictate what they can do in their own garden.

Riversideandrelax · 22/05/2024 14:53

GabyZs · 22/05/2024 14:00

They're entitled to use their garden as they wish as well. What if it was a barbecue? It's the same smell but people don't seem to have an with that.

A BBQ compared with a bonfire is really not the same thing or the same smell atall!

Easipeelerie · 22/05/2024 14:52

Check you local council’s rules. My council wrote to my neighbours because of regular bonfires. There’s also a possible issue with the things they burn causing toxic fumes.
If they do it more, keep a log and call council.

Riversideandrelax · 22/05/2024 14:51

I was always taught that if you're planning a bonfire (in the evening not at 4pm) you let your neighbours know so that they can make sure washing is in etc.

I think that is so inconsiderate to start one when you can clearly see your neighbour has washing out and is using the garden.

Bringbackthebeaver · 22/05/2024 14:51

Toddlerteaplease · 22/05/2024 14:49

@Bringbackthebeaver I thought bonfires were banned in a lot of cities anyway. We have issues with houses next the hospital that work in having them, which then triggers the fire alarms.

Yes. But then why did you say they can do what they like in their own garden? They can't... there are rules on antisocial behaviour and that's not just in cities. Most local councils have rules about what is and isn't OK.

Toddlerteaplease · 22/05/2024 14:49

@Bringbackthebeaver I thought bonfires were banned in a lot of cities anyway. We have issues with houses next the hospital that work in having them, which then triggers the fire alarms.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 22/05/2024 14:45

Bonfiredrama · 21/05/2024 21:47

it was a very sunny day last week - I had 2 loads of washing out and my mum and kids were in the garden. Neighbours next door have a 3ft fence between our gardens. My kids were playing near the fence and my mum was sitting out watching them while I popped to the shop around 3.30.

The neighbour had started lighting a bonfire and chucking all sorts of stuff on it from around the garden (my mum said flames were about 6ft high)

My mum shouted over politely: ‘hey we have kids playing outside here and washing on the line, please can you put that out’. The neighbour can’t communicate very well in English but we usually get by with pleasantries etc. She started shouting and saying that my mum can’t tell her what to do and that she was being rude.

the daughter came out and my mum was explaining about the kids and the washing. The daughter screamed ‘I don’t give a fuck about your kids” - with my kids right there in earshot. My 6 year old could easily understand what she said.

I am fuming particularly about screaming in front of my kids. AIBU? What would you do? I have their landlord details but I don’t know what to do next. I don’t really want to go down the council route as we will have to declare it if we move house.

"My mum shouted over politely: "

How do you "shout politely"??? Sorry, a genuine question as if someone shouted at me, I would not see it polite

If my next door had a fire - I would not really say anything and hope it was a one off and if our GC were outside I'd call them in

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 22/05/2024 14:43

Chocolateorange22 · 21/05/2024 21:54

Some councils have rules about doing it after a certain time. Think it was 6pm where I once lived.

yes, cehck with the coucil or if you are up to it and you will need to speak to them - politely tell them

we only dry clothing dreiirs as it makes them softer

TonTonMacoute · 22/05/2024 14:41

It’s extremely inconsiderate to light a bonfire on a lovely day and when people have washing hanging out.

Its perfectly reasonable to complain and no need to be so rude if someone does complain.

Water would definitely be deployed if she did it again, otherwise let it lie.

Theunamedcat · 22/05/2024 14:30

They arnt allowed in our area we are clean air zoned people still have them I had one at 1am during lockdown because all the tips were closed the following week they relaxed the rules for excess paper recycling so I could have saved myself the trouble 😂

My neighbours are probably a good reason for banning them he burns everything one time he had a huge bonfire during a drought set fire to his neighbours hedge fence tree and part their garden

Joyful

Crumpleton · 22/05/2024 14:25

HumerousHumous · 22/05/2024 14:21

Agree. That's why most councils offer green waste collections.

Op YANBU.

Most people in our area have since stopped using the service now its a chargeable one..

Grass/weeds smoldering during the summer months and wet damp leaves through the winter.

CountingCrones · 22/05/2024 14:23

Your mum was out of order - a spark on the trampoline? Completely batshit reaction.

Your 6yo isn't going to explode in proximity to either smoke or swearing (although if there's an asthmatic dripfeed, that would be more understandable.)

Your mum basically told off a non-English-speaking neighbour of a house she wasn't living in, what that woman can do in her own garden. And requested a ridiculous actiuon that would cause more smoke.

Yes, it's annoying when the washing is out, and hurredly grabbing the washing in is a reasonable reaction. So is asking in future that they tell you (so you can bring the washing in).