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School won't send certificates

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rosieposie233 · 21/05/2024 20:03

My son’s school is refusing to post his A level certificates to him even though we have moved out of the area and I have offered to pay for recorded postage. They insist he has to collect them in person or send someone to collect them for him.
It is a 2 hour drive away and it is mad to expect one of us to drive there and back when they could just send them by post. They are being such a jobs worth about it.
Is there any legal action I can take to force them to send them?
They will only keep them for 5 years and do not say what they do with them after that.

OP posts:
SeatonCarew · 21/05/2024 21:18

rosieposie233 · 21/05/2024 20:12

Why is arranging a courier or driving a 4 hour round trip considered a reasonable solution when the school could simply send them in the post? I i'm genuinely surprised so many of you think this is what I should do

Because these are important documents for your child's future, and represent the results of their endeavours. I am somewhat taken aback that you don't seem to realise that, or care. If they get lost, that is going to cause a shedload of difficulty for your child in the future. What mother wants that?

Shaldar · 21/05/2024 21:16

You want to take legal action, but they're such a jobsworth.

You don't have a right to dictate the policy or process.

They don't post them. They hand them over directly. So go and get them.

MrsHamlet · 21/05/2024 21:11

After 5 years, they go in confidential waste.

Littletreefrog · 21/05/2024 21:08

rosieposie233 · 21/05/2024 21:03

School is over 30mins drive from old house, no I am not asking a neighbour. No friends left in area. There is no risk to the school as I would pay for insurance against loss of documents. No I do not want to take a day off work to do this and yes 4 hour drive is too much for me. I am frustrated because I do not believe it would be a big deal for the school.
I can't force my adult children to get their certificates it's just as inconvenient for them as it is for me.
Passports and driving licences get posted and they are more of a risk for fraud.
Thanks for all your opinions.

Well if your adult child isn't bothered about getting them why are you bothered about getting them? Its their luck out if they need them and don't have them. For someone that wanted to take legal action against the school you now seem remarkably unbothered about getting them if it requires you actually doing anything.

ZipZapZoom · 21/05/2024 21:07

I can't force my adult children to get their certificates it's just as inconvenient for them as it is for me.

Consider it the most important life lesson you can teach your child or in this case adult. Sometimes you have to do shit you don't want to do and a lot of the time that shit is inconvenient. If he wants the certificates and you're not able to drive to get them he can sort the issue out himself. I suspect if you made it his problem he would suddenly find he could get someone to collect and post on his behalf.

TeaandScandal · 21/05/2024 21:05

I can't force my adult children to get their certificates it's just as inconvenient for them as it is for me
They’re adults, let them work it out!

bananaramaterry · 21/05/2024 21:05

rosieposie233 · 21/05/2024 21:03

School is over 30mins drive from old house, no I am not asking a neighbour. No friends left in area. There is no risk to the school as I would pay for insurance against loss of documents. No I do not want to take a day off work to do this and yes 4 hour drive is too much for me. I am frustrated because I do not believe it would be a big deal for the school.
I can't force my adult children to get their certificates it's just as inconvenient for them as it is for me.
Passports and driving licences get posted and they are more of a risk for fraud.
Thanks for all your opinions.

Oh well, you can't have them!

If your adult child isn't bothered, then I'd say fair enough and get on with my day.

Their loss, not yours.

99victoria · 21/05/2024 21:04

They have to be handed over in person and the student has to sign to say they've received them. This is normal practice- the school isn't being 'jobsworth'

bananaramaterry · 21/05/2024 21:03

rosieposie233 · 21/05/2024 20:30

They won't hand it over to a courier apparently, has to be a nominated person with ID.

Well nominate a person with ID?

You must know someone? Surely one friend, etc in that area is trustworthy enough?

Or get DS to get public transport to collect his certificates?

rosieposie233 · 21/05/2024 21:03

School is over 30mins drive from old house, no I am not asking a neighbour. No friends left in area. There is no risk to the school as I would pay for insurance against loss of documents. No I do not want to take a day off work to do this and yes 4 hour drive is too much for me. I am frustrated because I do not believe it would be a big deal for the school.
I can't force my adult children to get their certificates it's just as inconvenient for them as it is for me.
Passports and driving licences get posted and they are more of a risk for fraud.
Thanks for all your opinions.

OP posts:
parkrun500club · 21/05/2024 21:00

It’s very easy to criticise the school but what if all the parents started asking for this to happen

other schools and colleges manage it just fine

Couldyounot · 21/05/2024 21:00

Just go and get them. Make a day out of it, you might as well. Yes they are being jobsworths over it, but you're risking cutting off your nose to spite your face

parkrun500club · 21/05/2024 20:59

footgoldcycle · 21/05/2024 20:14

I'm sure the school don't want to be held responsible if they go missing in the post

If they are sent recorded, they won't go missing. And in the vanishingly unlikely scenario that they do, you just contact the exam board and get new ones. It's really not a big issue, the school is making it one.

My son went to collect his A level certificates when he was home from university and they weren't ready! We live 30 minutes from his college.

They sent them in the post when they did arrive/were ready...

cakecoffeecakecoffee · 21/05/2024 20:57

Are you by any remote chance needing them collecting in Plymouth OP?
if so I’ll get them and post them.

AFmammaG · 21/05/2024 20:54

CurlewKate · 21/05/2024 20:41

@doubleshift "There is absolutely no reason they can't send them in the post recorded delivery. Jobsworths "

Which member of staff is going to leave work to go and queue in the post office?

Add to that the fact that LOADS of kids don’t bother to go get their certificates… honestly, what is the school supposed to do? Pay for the postage, out of what budget?! And then hope they arrive? What about the parents who try and claim for replacements if they go missing? Someone upthread said that’s £55 per certificate. Why should the school accept that risk?

Nope, the kids have a responsibility to get their own documents. The fact the OP moved away is not the school’s problem. She will be one of many who didn’t collect all for various reasons.

TrumpetOfTheMatriarchy · 21/05/2024 20:53

I'd be sticking ds I. A train to go and get them good life lesson and taking responsibility. Surely they are a bit old to have mummy breathing fire for them?!

SoupDragon · 21/05/2024 20:50

CurlewKate · 21/05/2024 20:41

@doubleshift "There is absolutely no reason they can't send them in the post recorded delivery. Jobsworths "

Which member of staff is going to leave work to go and queue in the post office?

How do they normally send out post?

This is a task that only happens once a year (twice if you count GCSEs).

Both DSs received their A level certificates in the post.

MereDintofPandiculation · 21/05/2024 20:47

Can you see if the exam board will, for a fee, send them to you rather than to the school?

Tiredbarbie · 21/05/2024 20:46

Yes it does really sound a bit awkward and lazy. Many people would accept having to do a drive for something as important as collecting official documents for example going to a passport office. It’s very easy to criticise the school but what if all the parents started asking for this to happen. Who is going to release a member of staff to complete all the administrative work for this? And what if the certificates get lost? I must admit OP you seem like you might be someone who would go ballistic at the school if this happened so I don’t blame them for not wanting to take that risk. I think it’s fair to assume people will collect certificates from school considering generally pupils would live in the area and it’s fair to have a strict policy on such important documents too. Sorry. A 2 hour drive is really not that long though.

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Linnet · 21/05/2024 20:45

ZipZapZoom · 21/05/2024 20:43

That must cost a fucking fortune! Do you have to pay for them to be sent? Also out of pure nosiness what's the policy if they don't actually arrive?

No we don’t pay for them to be sent. They are sent out by the SQA. I’m not actually sure what happens if they don’t arrive. I personally don’t know anyone that has happened to, they just always arrive by post.

Heronwatcher · 21/05/2024 20:44

Yep, someone could get hold of them and possibly use them to create a fake ID, apply for a job etc. Or if they get lost in the post you and your son could kick up merry hell, saying he can’t get a job, they need to pay for replacements etc. In fact I suspect that’s probably what’s happened before and why they insist on personal collection.

And I can’t believe that you consider your local friends too unreliable but you’re fine with the post 🤔

ZipZapZoom · 21/05/2024 20:43

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 21/05/2024 20:39

Yes, the actual certificate. Everyone gets it in the post on results day.

That must cost a fucking fortune! Do you have to pay for them to be sent? Also out of pure nosiness what's the policy if they don't actually arrive?

Theraffarian · 21/05/2024 20:43

No school I have ever had a connection with would have a spare member of staff to go into town and post certificates as a signed for item of post . It’s not just the time , cost of petrol and their parking fees , work being missed while they do that on numerous occasions , but also the risk of the item going missing .

I do find it sad that you and your son don’t have a single person who is able to pick them up for you though .

CurlewKate · 21/05/2024 20:41

@doubleshift "There is absolutely no reason they can't send them in the post recorded delivery. Jobsworths "

Which member of staff is going to leave work to go and queue in the post office?

DownWithThisKindOfThing · 21/05/2024 20:39

Notamum12345577 · 21/05/2024 20:24

You sure they get the actual certificates? Or a notification of the results?

Yes, the actual certificate. Everyone gets it in the post on results day.