To expect school to constantly supervise a violent child?

Every school , if not every class, will have its own 'Bill'.Many of them will be attacking the adults in school too.I would strongly advise you to teach your kiddo to fight back - no point trying to get s hool to help.They just haven't the staff if he doesn't have 1 to 1 support.

The school won’t have resources to constantly monitor him, plus it would be difficult to justify this.
I was once in your situation, tried talking to the parents, to the school, advised my child to avoid Billy or hit him back. Each tactic worked temporarily then Billy would start again.
Encourage your DS to surround himself with new friends, build up a shield of protective supportive likeminded individuals.

I would also like to add, that maybe some of these children ( BIll) would benefit from a different type of school, they have issues and need support too, main steam where funding is low is not really the ideal place for them to get the support they need to be able to be around mainstream children , they can always be Integrated back, but possibly need support whilst they are young.

We were in a similar situation. I regret not moving my child. It’s almost like school wrote off the violent child as couldn’t do anything about him and the complaining children / parents were the issue.

I had something similar when my child was in year one, the final straw was the other child leaving marks on my sons neck from trying to strangle him, I pushed and spoke with the head , with a view to making a complaint over this and the child in question got moved to another class lower down , ( as only one class in that year) it was either that or he be removed from the school, I wanted it dealing with immediately, it's still classed as assault even though they are small kids.
The class the boy got moved to had more supervision.
His mum wasn't happy , but my concern was my son.
You need to push this with the school your child is your priority.

There’s a ‘Bill’ at DS’ private school. He is man-marked during the school day but it isn’t possible for the school to do this during playtimes when most of the incidents happen. DS used to be a target until he hit back & now he’s found a new target.

This would be my last resort. Keep pushing with the school, but if the school are out of options, then yeah, tell you ds that the next time Bill hurts you, punch Bill in the face as hard as you possibly can.

I'd agree with the PP, you need to report every incident and ask how they are keeping your child safe each time. I'd also maybe ask them if there is a problem in the school as you are aware of other incidents. But don't be focusing in on Bill, best to focus on your DS and other incidents and ask them what they are doing about it

Yes. We have. But it takes time. There isn’t the money to get someone extra in now.

The answer to both your questions is no. You shouldn't allow your son to be assaulted, but nor should you expect information about how another child is being managed. You need to depersonalise this from Bill as you will keep meeting with brick walls when they refuse (correctly) to discuss him in detail with you. You need to focus on your child and stick to imparting information and asking questions about him. Keep it simple. "My child has been assaulted on these occasions. What is your plan to prevent this going forward?"

Can the school not start the process or the parents to get the funding for more help? That sounds like a ridiculous situation. A couple of kids in our class have 1-2-1s funded. Then we have the usual TA for each class.

Not pinch, PUNCH

Our Bill used to pinch and kick his classmates in the head about once a week. Clearly this could easily have resulted in serious and permanent harm. He moved to a different area after a couple of years. Fortunately no permanent harm was done. I was beside myself that I was sending my little dd into a place that was not physically safe for her. The school were really unhelpful which was shocking.

I probably should have taken my dd out of school but this would have been a logistical nightmare involving us moving house and both of us changing jobs. But probably I should still have done it. Honestly it's just not ok that schools do not keep kids safe.

We had similar and they just kept excusing him or rewarding him with 1 on 1 forest school and other. Parents useless and child was free range on the streets from an early age. There was also a ridiculous 'no blame' policy which effectively meant no consequences.

In every case the child was expelled once getting to high school due to appalling behaviour. But not sure why primaries do nothing.

The Bill in our school has a mother who is chair of the PTFA. He strangles other children. The school are terrified of the mother so do nothing.
I’m sick of ordinary families having to make allowances everywhere. Don’t make your problem everyone else’s.

Totally agree. You can add the staff in with the children too. Two injured this week and another in floods of tears today because of "Bill." Cortisol levels are through the roof.

I’d be telling my child to thump Bill very, very hard should he ever try anything again.

Yes, very true. Unfortunately the broken system is failing everyone.

I’m a TA. We have a Bill - he’s only been at the school four weeks. I’ve been pulled away from the class I’m supposed to be with to be with him as he is violent. We don’t have money for additional adults.

This means the Y1 class I am supposed to be with haven’t got the support and the needy children in there are struggling without someone to sit next to them to help.
I follow him around like a hawk but even then I’ve missed bits. For example, a child talks to me and I look at them to answer, or help with a zip - and he’s off and done something. I’m not magic, I can’t always stop everything. And it definitely takes away from the other children.

It’s nobody’s fault - but there’s no money in the system to support these children. School
should definitely do
some but maybe they can’t. To have adults you need money and if there’s no money then they can’t offer 1-2-1. It’s not ok and it’s not right but it’s the reality of the system at the moment.

My son has ADHD and an EHCP - he is the anti-Bill - couldn’t be more different.

Our Bill was neurodivergent in some way but everyone was scared of him - and wanted the perks of his friendship as paid for by his parents - so towed his line.

There was a Bill in my DS’s class too. He thankfully has moved now.

Parents are “pillars of the community” types - school reluctant to say anything to them for years incase they stopped pouring money into the school (VA).

When the school finally did, after something I reported, the flounced and moved him to private school.

School also would pretend anything they hadn’t literally seen happening didn’t exist, although there was often plenty of evidence.

This sounds like a sacrifice of the many in the name of inclusivity.

Why is it OK for lots of children to fear going to school, or to come home upset on a regular basis, just so that one child is included?

It's a numbers game and a no-brainer, surely?

My dd was the bill too Echp rejected. Expelled from primary school. Calls to collect daily it wasn't nice on this side too.

From the other perspective - my son is a 'Bill'. Or at least he used to be. He is autistic and has ADHD and he lashes out. I begged his school for more supervision. They said they couldn't afford it. I applied for an EHCP and it was rejected. It's horrible being on this end too.

I'm not sure about procedures in the rest of the UK, but when I was a HoD in Scotland, I'd send the SLT an email demanding that they put in place a Risk Assessment for violent pupils.

I don't think the OP can make such a demand, but she might try dropping into the conversation that she is angry about the fact that her child has been injured and that she assumes that now that the school is aware, an appropriate Risk Assessment will have been put in place to ensure that the violent pupil is unable to cause her child further harm.