Singapore flight turbulence tragedy

Far more people will die of thrombosis caused by sitting still too long on a plane than will ever die due to turbulence.

Take it as a comfort that it is so rare that it made front page news.

Turbulence really isn't a concern for modern airliners.
Even tiny planes are designed to withstand quite a bit.

I understand why it's unsettling, but it really shouldn't put you off flying.
Honestly if people actually understood the physics behind how a plane flies, it would alleviate ALOT of flying anxiety many, many people have.

Agree very much with belts on as much as possible, but yes of course at some point in 12-13 hour flight nature intervenes…

Looking at where this happened in terms of the flight there’s also a fair chance that the final meal service was, or had just been on the go. That tends to trigger a final rush for the washrooms and often queues do form……if that was the case it might help explain the numbers injured.

It’s bizarre that you don’t see the difference between people who need to have their seatbelt off (e.g. to use the toilet or do their job as cabin crew) and people just sitting in their seats with no belt on.

They made a choice that they felt the chance of injury was small enough to take the risk and unfortunately they were unlucky. If you only have your seatbelt off when you need to get up then you are much less likely to be injured than if you only wear it when you are legally required to. Obviously everyone will need to use the loo at some point on a 14 hour flight, but people who unclip their seatbelts as soon as the sign goes off and don’t wear them unless it comes back on make flying more dangerous for everyone.

It’s not hard. Keep your seatbelt on and if you’re sleeping fasten it over your blanket so that the crew can see it is on and don’t have to wake you which can delay them in getting to their seats.

Good if short haul. Not so good if long haul. You can end up with a thrombosis. Im
doinf the Singapore flight tomorrow and it’s 13.5h. Def ill have to go at some point for the loo

Hope it all goes well for you tomorrow. I’m flying too. To Singapore with Singapore airlines. Todays news haven’t been good for my anxiety which already was over the roof 😭 but I love traveling

I love your username 😂

I do tend to wear my seatbelt at all times when seated but on my next flight might avoid going to the loo if possible. Utterly horrifying.

b is not true. The turbulence event that happened earlier today does not make the same event happening tomorrow any more or less likely.

I already said that there might be people who were out of their seats and couldn’t be belted in, but if people chose to sit in their seats without their seatbelt fastened then they chose to take the risk of injury in the case of unexpected turbulence and were unfortunately unlucky. I have limited sympathy as they put other passengers at risk with their choice not to wear their belt. I’d be pretty annoyed if I got injured during turbulence on a flight because the person next to me chose not to wear a seatbelt

So you would be annoyed if someone injured you if they were sitting next to you without a belt on & would have little sympathy if they hurt themselves. But you wouldn’t be annoyed if they injured you because they were walking to the toilet & you would have sympathy then or if they had their belt on but took their belt off to bend down for a kids toy etc & hurt you that would be ok?

As I said I find it crass that people have to repeatedly say “this is why I wear a seatbelt” or “this is why I don’t swim in the sea” after a shark attack. It’s a weird moral high ground & then of course you have the posters who not only wear there seatbelt at all times but don’t go to the toilet on short haul flights etc.

Extraordinarily rare. Are you scared every time you drive a car or cross a road. Because you should be terrified. It's infinitely more risky than flying in a plane

@Takoneko have you never seen those comments when discussing attacks or even just women walking alone at night?

It was not an over reaction it was just a comment i would never go on a plane.

Comparing it to rape is ridiculous. The rape example is blaming a victim for the actions of a criminal attacker.

Turbulence isn’t criminal and isn’t anyone’s fault. There is no victim and aggressor here.

I already said that there might be people who were out of their seats and couldn’t be belted in, but if people chose to sit in their seats without their seatbelt fastened then they chose to take the risk of injury in the case of unexpected turbulence and were unfortunately unlucky. I have limited sympathy as they put other passengers at risk with their choice not to wear their belt. I’d be pretty annoyed if I got injured during turbulence on a flight because the person next to me chose not to wear a seatbelt.

They will have sat through a safety briefing that told them to wear their seatbelt whenever seated and chose not to.

And most long haul flights I’ve been on involve a little queue for the toilet.

I’m a bad parent & don’t own aeroplane car seats.

No sillier than your over reaction. You're happy to take the risk on those far more dangerous options but not a plane?

For short haul flights I use the toilet before boarding and don't get out of my seat, for longer flights I wait until I can see the toilet is empty and go quickly, needs must, then straight back and seat belt on. When my kids were under 6 they travelled in aircraft compatible car seats.

You win the award for the most sensible & safest flyer ever, congratulations!

For the geeks and anyone is interested in basic details Flight Radar have released a trace of the data they got of the encounter. It was a turbulence induced erratic climb from 37000 up to about 37400 then back down again. Problem is the rate of climb was very erratic, swinging positive then negative. The resultant loading and unloading of g forces is what will have caused problems in the cabin....there was no multi-thousand foot plummet.

https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1792927321935987078

Well thats just a silly comment,🙄