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To feel like I have to pay this off for DD’s sake? How can I do it?

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Hyre · 21/05/2024 08:18

This situation is making me feel unwell. I have 200k left on a mortgage. I’m 36. If I don’t pay this off by the time DD is at school (ie by the time I’m 40) I feel like she is going to be at such a huge huge disadvantage in life as I am a single parent with cms that as everyone knows is unpredictable. This is causing me a lot of stress. I try and overpay but sacrifice my own eating to do this.

i don’t feel like she will have the same opportunity as a child in a two parent household otherwise. How can I achieve this? I feel constantly stressed

OP posts:
Elphamouche · 22/05/2024 21:59

Hyre · 22/05/2024 21:48

It’s not that I think it disadvantages her as such, more that the situation is scary on your own. She’s more likely to lose her home than a two parent and two income family.

Not true. If either of of us loses our job we are out.

EllysMom · 22/05/2024 21:55

Hyre · 22/05/2024 21:48

It’s not that I think it disadvantages her as such, more that the situation is scary on your own. She’s more likely to lose her home than a two parent and two income family.

That’s not true. If my husband lost his job and couldn’t pay his half of the mortgage and household bills, I could not cover him. So we would be stuffed just the same as you would. And we have two kids.

Hyre · 22/05/2024 21:48

It’s not that I think it disadvantages her as such, more that the situation is scary on your own. She’s more likely to lose her home than a two parent and two income family.

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Matronic6 · 22/05/2024 21:32

Why would having a mortgage disadvantage your child?

Having more money does not equate to a better parent and definitely not a better child. The kids that are most 'advantaged' are kids that have loving and involved care givers.

Some of the most grounded, kind hearted and confident and content kids I have taught were raised by single mums. Some of the most unkind and unhappy kids were raised by two parents with a lot of money.

SoupChicken · 22/05/2024 21:17

You’re catastrophising, there’s nothing unusual at all about a single parent with a mortgage, it’s not like you’re up to your eyeballs in credit card debt. Worst case scenario you’d be able to sell the house.

Badgertime · 22/05/2024 21:08

I don't know anyone mortgage free in their 40s let alone a single parent (I've been one too and had a mortgage).
You really are stressing out too much here. I'm 43 and own 25% of a house. I had a mortgage until last year but gave it up to buy a share and hopefully move up the ladder.
We are lucky to even own our homes (or at least partially) as many can't.

laclochette · 22/05/2024 20:54

You are worrying about something that it isn't rational to worry about.
If you were a two-parent household you would probably have a larger mortgage, as people tend to borrow what they can afford, so you wouldn't necessarily be in a dramatically different position proportionately.

I could tell you, as others have, that you're being silly to worry about this.

But I think it's deplaced anxiety/ a symptom of something else, so I'm not sure that's helpful.

Ultimately it's natural to feel anxious about the responsibility of being a single parent, but if you are doing your best for your daughter, providing emotional and practical stability (which you absolutely are, you own a home - many people don't!), then you and she are going to be ok.

I wonder if you'd benefit from therapy to work through this level of anxiety.

FlipFlop1987 · 22/05/2024 20:45

When did you get the mortgage? I’m assuming you got it as a sole applicant and the bank has done all its checks and you gave a retirement age. The bank use your retirement age to stretch out the loan until you stop working, therefore they don’t except you to pay it off before then. They are happy that you are on top to clear it though and that’s all you need.
It is possible with overpayment and by moving house/making profit to clearbit before but you don’t NEED to do that. You are coping just fine, eat for goodness sake!

Umbrella15 · 22/05/2024 20:44

nickelbabe · 21/05/2024 09:49

OP, your question is delusional, so I really think you should make an appointment with your GP to check your mental health status (I'm not being flippant here - this is a very bizarre question)

Mortgages are designed to be paid over 25 years.
if you took out your mortgage at 22, you'd expect it to be paid when you're 47.
I wouldn't expect any earlier than that.

It makes no difference if you're 1 or 2 incomes. It doesn't make your situation more precarious or difficult.

Well said, it really annoys me when single people think they are finacally worse off than a couple. Having a partner dosent make you richer, single people are entilted to extra benefits that couples are not. I know a single mum, that earns more money than a couples wages put together, you also get couples where 1 parent stays at home and dosent earn. You arent at a disadvantage because you are single.

sabbii · 22/05/2024 20:05

My 30s was the toughest time of my life, still with almost 200k mortgage, career still in an early stage I.e average income and no disposable income. This was normal for a vast majority of people.
Moral is OP is no different and luckily have time on your side. Crucially OP needs all the right protection for life, illness and build an emergency fund before overpaying. Creating a buffer will be godsend

Askingforafriendtoday · 22/05/2024 19:53

Hyre · 21/05/2024 08:18

This situation is making me feel unwell. I have 200k left on a mortgage. I’m 36. If I don’t pay this off by the time DD is at school (ie by the time I’m 40) I feel like she is going to be at such a huge huge disadvantage in life as I am a single parent with cms that as everyone knows is unpredictable. This is causing me a lot of stress. I try and overpay but sacrifice my own eating to do this.

i don’t feel like she will have the same opportunity as a child in a two parent household otherwise. How can I achieve this? I feel constantly stressed

I feel for you OP but the problem is not your mortgage, which, as everyone is pointing out, is a large debt which most people barely manage to pay off by the time they retire, if then. The problem is not specifically to do with being a single parent, though obviously that makes you feel you cannot share the burden. You make a lot of assumptions though about how everything is fine for 2 parent families in this respect. Very very often for multiple and varied reasons only one of those might be an earner and so carries the mortgage debt.
The best way to help your daughter is not by starving yourself to pay this eye-watering sum of money every month but by getting help for your crippling anxiety which it seems is making you unable to think rationally about your finances
More important that the £200k you mentioned is kept carefully in a safe savings account earning as much interest as possible, as a buffer, and if necessary overpay on your mortgage a bit when you feel you can if that's what you want to do but not try to achieve the impossible by paying huge amounts to clear your mortgage

Notamum12345577 · 22/05/2024 19:49

Hyre · 21/05/2024 08:18

This situation is making me feel unwell. I have 200k left on a mortgage. I’m 36. If I don’t pay this off by the time DD is at school (ie by the time I’m 40) I feel like she is going to be at such a huge huge disadvantage in life as I am a single parent with cms that as everyone knows is unpredictable. This is causing me a lot of stress. I try and overpay but sacrifice my own eating to do this.

i don’t feel like she will have the same opportunity as a child in a two parent household otherwise. How can I achieve this? I feel constantly stressed

The vast majority of people aren’t mortgage free by 40!

meganorks · 22/05/2024 19:46

I think you are fixating on entirely the wrong thing. The mortgage is fine. It seems like you can afford it. I don't think overpayments to the extent you aren't eating properly are securing you daughters future at all.
Firstly, you'll end up making yourself ill. A sick mother would be a lot more precarious than a mother with a mortgage to pay.
Secondly, if you a ploughing every last penny into a mortgage then all your money is tied up in the house. So that if for some reason you need some, you don't have anything available. You would be much better setting up a savings account to put any extra in as and when you can. That way you have some back up cash for emergencies. Or for nice things.

tommyhoundmum · 22/05/2024 19:22

77 here and still paying off the mortgage. The 21 year old is working now so that takes off the pressure. Perhaps you should consider the mortgage as a form of savings or investment which it is of course. Good luck

Underpaidsnackbitch · 22/05/2024 19:21

OP can I suggest a different perspective? I'm 10 years older than you, and I became single before turning 40 with a small child, and a mortgage. For me it was liberating. I'm the master of my own destiny and I don't have to worry about somebody else's financials. My DCs dad was and still is a nightmare with money, and work (no CMS for me). My mortgage payments are roughly 1/3 of what I would pay if I was renting. I don't know how I'd afford to rent now, and in x years I will have paid off the debt and have an asset to hopefully pass down. There are so many people in this country that will never get on the housing ladder. Some people would think you're in a very fortunate position.

laraitopbanana · 22/05/2024 19:16

Can you add some details so we can understand please? How much are your repayments? How much disposable income do you have each month etc…

I don’t presume you really think you can pay 200K in 4 years otherwise you wouldn’t turn to us…

Runningoutoftime99 · 22/05/2024 18:51

40 !!!! Why that’s an unrealistic goal if you are struggling . Why do that to yourself .

lackofvitamindd · 22/05/2024 18:49

I'm 44 single & get no CMS my daughter is in Y2. My plan is to pay if off before I die so I can leave her the house.
A happy mum is far more important xx

Ladybirdg1984 · 22/05/2024 18:44

Hi OP, I hope you're doing OK. Could you not save some money instead of overpaying? They used to suggest having equivalent funds saved based on so many months worth of bills etc covered just in case job was lost. Gives you time to sort out other work.
I am running a house on one income with a few mouths to keep warm and fed. But I do have some perks with my work in the event I went off sick. But thats it really.

AllyArty · 22/05/2024 18:30

I think your mortgage is reasonable for someone your age. I’m not sure what you earn but you are doing v well to keep up payments as a single person.
Please try and find a way to enjoy your child, and stop stressing so much about money. There are so many in a much worse situation. And if / when u meet someone new in the future you won’t be paying the mortgage on your own- good luck with everything.

Violet17 · 22/05/2024 18:22

I think you are putting yourself through unnecessary stress. I too have anxiety so I do understand you feel the need to achieve this but it is unrealistic.

Yes of course if you can afford it, pay off a little more every month, but not at the expense of your health.

If you stop eating properly you will become ill. How will you look after your DD if you are ill and malnourished.

Have a budget but be sensible.

DD will meet lots of children her age from a variety of backgrounds. Some kids will have more opportunities some will have less. It is the way it is. Even though not always fair.

You do the best you can for her but without sacrificing your own basic needs.

You need to look after you so you can look after her.

Maybe contact your GP about your anxieties. I know this is not a quick fix for your anxiety but it is a good place to start to find support for yourself.

Birch101 · 22/05/2024 18:01

My mother was a single parent and didn't pay of her mortgage until we were at University.

We moved from a 3 bed terraced house to a 4 bed detached newish build when I was 13 older sibling 16. She did this so that when she sold she could buy a decent retirement suitable bungalow.

She was a teacher so hardly lots of money and no family support so wasn't an inheritance or anything.

I personally wouldn't worry about paying it off by the time your 40, just enjoy your child and your life with them and get decent life insurance

Airspice · 22/05/2024 18:00

You’re massively worrying unnecessarily, who pays off a mortgage by the time they’re 40, £200k in 3-4 years?! I have 2 teens, been a single mum most of their lives, no money from CSA/CMS and still have 6 years left on my mortgage (I’m currently 52), never have I felt my children have been particularly disadvantaged by that. Cut yourself some slack x

Exdonkeylover · 22/05/2024 18:00

I came from a single parent family that could afford the mortgage, better that than 2 parents that can't.

The pressure is only because you want to pay it off in 4 years!!

AtlanticMum · 22/05/2024 17:59

OP it does sound like you are very anxious. I am a single parent and have a (hefty) mortgage in place over 25 years with a separate, manageable life assurance policy in place to protect DD. At various times I have paid interest only in order to keep everything in order - and so that I was not over-thinking it and over stretching myself. Do you have a friend who is good with financials - an accountant or just somebody who is good at managing household finances? It would probably help to talk it through with somebody. ( Not a mortgage broker. 😳). It is great that you have a home for your children - and well done!

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