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To expect 3.5 yr old to use potty alone at night...

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Cato9lives · 20/05/2024 11:25

3.5 yr old dd has been potty trained for past 7 months. Recently went dry at night around 6 weeks ago. She has always been a good sleeper and nearly always slept through 8pm til 7am, (we have been very lucky, I know!) Over past month she has started waking up around 3/4am every night saying she needs a wee or a drink. She has a drink right next to her bed and a potty in her room with a night light. She is capable of doing these things by herself but she always calls me into her room to witness her doing them! If I don't go she gets upset which makes the situation worse. Obviously I want her to stop waking me up in the night. I've bought her a gro clock and tried to bribe her with the promise of special ice cream if she doesn't wake me up, but nothing seems to be working. I'm worried about this turning into a habit that we can't break. Has anyone had similar? Help please! 😢

OP posts:
Ponderingwindow · 20/05/2024 13:18

You don’t need to worry about forming a habit. It won’t be long before she starts wanting privacy. For now though, she is still very young and even if your presence is just for comfort, it is necessary.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 20/05/2024 13:17

I've just realised that ds was 4.5 not 3.5, he had pull ups at night for ages after he was dry in the day. So we used the sticker chart then.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 20/05/2024 13:15

KeyWorker · 20/05/2024 12:24

Surely if you’re using g a potty you’ll have to get up to empty it anyway? If she wakes in the night for a wee encourage her to use the toilet, then over the coming weeks/months encourage her to access the toilet more independently. So, for now go into the bathroom with her then put her back to bed, then wait on the landing, then wait in her room, then just sit in your bed so she knows you’re up and awake. By the time she’s 4 or 5 she’ll have the confidence to use the bathroom at night alone.

A little wee in a potty doesn't need emptying immediately.

MrsElsa · 20/05/2024 12:30

Children are scared of the dark. That's normal and your job as a parent is to look after them and make them feel safe.

I'm wondering if you were shamed for being scared of the dark when you were younger OP?

Cato9lives · 20/05/2024 12:30

Thanks so much for all the more constructive / less judgy responses! It's genuinely appreciated. So the general gist I'm getting is, 'don't panick, she's just a bit young and needs some more time'. Appreciated. Thank you 😊

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PancakeClock · 20/05/2024 12:29

I think while they are still using a potty rather than the toilet, I'd want to be there to make sure they aim right and empty it afterwards. In a sleepy haze and dim light surely there's a high chance it might get knocked over or something. Once they can safely get to and use the loo, plus wash their hands after, is when I would hope not to be woken up.

Like someone else said, I'd be pleased to have got to the stage that they were out of nappies and not wetting the bed.

Willyoujustbequiet · 20/05/2024 12:27

Yabu

She's so little bless her. She'll be sleepy, it's dark, scary....

I don't know anyone who wouldn't get up.

DoreenonTill8 · 20/05/2024 12:27

Katiesaidthat · 20/05/2024 11:47

This is mad. My kid sometimes goes alone but she is 5. There is a massive difference in development. Sometimes she calls out to me to go with her. It is dark, she´s half asleep and she wants her mum. All perfectly natural.

This, it's actually quite sad to read you almost seem annoyed at her for needing you!

Toxicinlawz · 20/05/2024 12:26

Op I do understand you but she is small and if she's waking you then you need to get up. You need to address why she's getting up I think rather then wanting her to get up alone. If she was getting up randomly then I'd say we all do that and that's normal but if it's every night then you need to understand why. I think you need to get rid of the light permanently and remove the drink in her room too. I think you need to understand does she want a drink and a wee just from habit or is there another reason. I'm sure your hv can help you with a plan as well. Maybe move the potty to the bathroom as well so she understands her room is for sleeping not having a drink and a wee but obviously I don't know the logistics of this for you and any other safety aspects of this so only do what's safe.

KeyWorker · 20/05/2024 12:24

Surely if you’re using g a potty you’ll have to get up to empty it anyway? If she wakes in the night for a wee encourage her to use the toilet, then over the coming weeks/months encourage her to access the toilet more independently. So, for now go into the bathroom with her then put her back to bed, then wait on the landing, then wait in her room, then just sit in your bed so she knows you’re up and awake. By the time she’s 4 or 5 she’ll have the confidence to use the bathroom at night alone.

Toxicinlawz · 20/05/2024 12:14

waterrat · 20/05/2024 11:42

gosh she is v young to be dry at night. Mine were 6/7 - my older one was older than that but she has SEN.

Do you know its a hormone thing being dry at night? Children develop at different ages.

re. the toilet, tricky one - she will grow out of it but she is only little still

It's very normal to be dry at night at that age. She's not too young at all, but it's also normal for it take longer and the child to be older or for there to be set backs along the way too.

GerbilsForever24 · 20/05/2024 12:14

I think it's reasonable for her to not feel comfortable at this age. Personally, Id do the dream wee before you go to bed. We did that with DD for a couple of months around this age and it helped a lot.

Festivemoose · 20/05/2024 12:11

LetItGoToRuin · 20/05/2024 12:08

I feel you're getting a bit of a tough time on here, OP. Every child is different, and it's a valid question. My DD was using the potty on her own at night before she turned 3, so it does happen. However, it sounds as though your DD still needs a bit of reassurance, which is ok too.

For me it’s more an issue of safety than her not being able to do it. I go with her to make sure she doesn’t leave the tap on or hurt herself with hot water.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 20/05/2024 12:11

On the bright side though I think some of these replies are too negative - my son certainly wasn't still waking me regularly by 4.

BakedTattie · 20/05/2024 12:10

Aw bless her she’s still very wee.

I still call out to my nearly 9 year old to check he’s ok if he gets up for the loo in the middle of the night.

she’s maybe just needing a bit of reassurance

LetItGoToRuin · 20/05/2024 12:08

I feel you're getting a bit of a tough time on here, OP. Every child is different, and it's a valid question. My DD was using the potty on her own at night before she turned 3, so it does happen. However, it sounds as though your DD still needs a bit of reassurance, which is ok too.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 20/05/2024 12:08

I know for sure if I told my son to get on with that by himself I would have been risking slops around the potty, or he might have been less willing to get up and use it at all which wouldn't have ended well. Actually I never left a potty out once he was that age - he would have gone to the bathroom, and it was worth escorting him for a bit to get that established.

SoftPillowAllNight · 20/05/2024 12:07

Branster · 20/05/2024 12:03

Be prepared for many years of being woken up in the middle of the night OP.
Whilst they are little they absolutely need to feel safe and not alone.
When a bit older they might have a random nightmare, be woken up by a noisy storm, feel sick etc where they need reassurance/help.
Tweens, they might want to come home from a sleepover.
Teenage years there will be than unexpected call for pick up from a party at 1AM for whatever reason. Or you startle yourself awake worrying about where they are.

Why would you expect to ever sleep like you did before having a child, is beyond me. There's no going back now. All that is gone! One eye open and all that. Maybe when all your children are grown up safe and secure in theirs own homes, you might get back to old sleeping habits. By then, you'll be too old to be able to sleep properly. You can't win unfortunately.

💯

AndSoFinally · 20/05/2024 12:06

We used to do a DreamWee about 11pm when we went to bed, which kept them going til morning

BogRollBOGOF · 20/05/2024 12:04

3.5 is relatively young to be going dry through the night and waking and managing themselves independently. Even without toileting, it's normal for 3yos to seek their parents if they wake in the night.

My two were 4 & 5.5 when they became dry in the night. One went through a phase of sleepwalking and ending up toileting in the wrong places as the hormonal signals became jumbled.

She's doing well already.

Branster · 20/05/2024 12:03

Be prepared for many years of being woken up in the middle of the night OP.
Whilst they are little they absolutely need to feel safe and not alone.
When a bit older they might have a random nightmare, be woken up by a noisy storm, feel sick etc where they need reassurance/help.
Tweens, they might want to come home from a sleepover.
Teenage years there will be than unexpected call for pick up from a party at 1AM for whatever reason. Or you startle yourself awake worrying about where they are.

Why would you expect to ever sleep like you did before having a child, is beyond me. There's no going back now. All that is gone! One eye open and all that. Maybe when all your children are grown up safe and secure in theirs own homes, you might get back to old sleeping habits. By then, you'll be too old to be able to sleep properly. You can't win unfortunately.

Reugny · 20/05/2024 12:01

Toooldforthis36 · 20/05/2024 12:00

No, its because they are sleepy, confused and 3.5!

Plus it is dark.

Weallnamechangesometimes · 20/05/2024 12:01

My dd used to wake me to help her (didn’t need help in the day time) can’t remember when it stopped but she is 5.5 now and it has been a while. Still wakes me up if she sees a spider though.

bakewellbride · 20/05/2024 12:01

The thing is during the day you are obviously there to tip the wee away straight away and give the potty a quick clean. She probably wants the same to happen at night and not to have a potty with wee in it with her for hours. You need to be there for your child.

Toooldforthis36 · 20/05/2024 12:00

Cato9lives · 20/05/2024 11:48

Thanks for everyone's responses so far. I'm just wondering why people are saying 3.5 year olds can't use the potty by themselves in the night when they are capable of doing it by themselves during the day? Is it an emotional support thing?

No, its because they are sleepy, confused and 3.5!