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Am I being an arse or is this controlling!?

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Dancehalldarling · 20/05/2024 07:19

I’m in a lesbian relationship just so we’re clear on genders.

My girlfriend is so overly attentive that it’s really really starting to grate on me but I don’t know if I’m just being a bit of a cow.

examples:

  • driving in my car I turn my air con up 2 degrees from the coldest. She leans forward and says are you cold with a concerned look and goes to adjust the air con again. There’s always just that little extra of whatever so she’s done something to help. I said no leave it. She then said do you want to turn the aircon off? I said no I’m fine. She said do you want my jacket? GAH!!!!
  • out shopping (regularly) she will INSIST on carrying my bags. When I say no she relentlessly asks me to give them to her and it gets so annoying. Sometimes I want to carry my own bags! If I put them down for example to Pay she will pick them up and not give me them back.
  • at the cinema she asks if I’m cold, I say no, I’m quite fine, she’ll take her coat off and put it over me.
  • constantly paws at me and I mean CONSTANTLY has to be holding hands whether it’s driving, walking, sitting on the sofa, at dinner. It’s not just holding hands she holds my hand with one hand and caresses my arms and hands with her other hand. If she’s not doing this she’s stroking my hair or rubbing my head/neck/shoulders/tickling my arm or face.
  • If I’ve asked her to do a task for example could you please grab my keys while I look for my phone, she’ll grab the keys (along with everything else I’m carrying) and then as soon as I mention I’m going to grab my phone she’ll put down what she has and start frantically joining me in looking for my phone. This is a small example but what I’m trying to say is if she’s doing something and notices I’m on a different task she will drop what she’s doing and join me 100%. Cleaning, getting dressed, whatever.
  • always asks if I’ve ate, what I’ve ate, when I’ve ate. Sometimes I lie and say yes when I actually haven’t because I can’t be arsed with “why?” “I’ll Uber you food now what do you want?” “You need to eat” “make sure you eat please”
  • we don’t live together but if she hears I’m doing something like painting a room she insists on coming round and doing it for me, tells me to just sit down and rest. Sometimes I just want to get things done?
  • has to see me every day and kind of sulks if she doesn’t. Which is a real PITA sometimes as I have DC and don’t live overly close to her (D.C. not officially met her yet) So often I’m going out my way to call in before or after work, after school run, when DC are with their dad. Every day! This week she has sulked because she’s “hardly seen me” when I’ve seen her every day just not for as long.
  • she doesn’t like any of my friends and thinks I’m too good for them. She’s not a fan of me going out with them which is very rare. My best friend doesn’t like her for a separate reason but this also plays on my mind.

I’ve gotten irritated a few times and told her I’m not made of bloody glass and can she please stop treating me like an infant. She gets the hump and says she’s just trying to care for me. But I find it really suffocating and a bit controlling! AIBU?

OP posts:
horseyhorsey17 · 20/05/2024 10:25

She's really into you and you're not so into her. I'd find that too much if I was you, too, tbf.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 20/05/2024 10:23

I wouldn't text back your response, I would make an arrangement to see her - away from your home, somewhere neutral - and have a conversation face to face.

Whether you decide to end it or not, you need to be able to say how you feel about this relationship. The touching thing made me feel sick. It's what many of my boyfriends did and it's proprietorial, a message to anybody else 'don't touch!', even if there was no reason or threat of that.

You sound like very different people and that shouldn't be an issue, many opposites are together and happy, because they shake down, accept the differences and make it work. You have no wiggle room in this relationship, it's either her way or... she gets upset and makes it your responsibility to back down because, 'love language'. Honestly, whoever thought of that stupid term needs a sharp slap, it's pathetic.

I'm so sorry that you're in this position, OP. It's good that you've posted as there have been some really erudite posters who've shone light on this, it made me think too. I hope you can find a way through - or out of - this, very soon.

tattygrl · 20/05/2024 10:21

I can't see this getting any better, OP. It'll get worse. Just leave. This is awful.

CecilyP · 20/05/2024 10:20

I don’t think it’s actually controlling as such, more infantilising! Which you don’t need as a grown woman with kids of your own. It was driving me mad just reading your fairly short post. I don’t know how you put up with it; I would just finish it!

MercyDulb0ttle · 20/05/2024 10:17

She isn’t a “poor girl “! She’s a limpet who won’t take no for an answer. If this were a bloke nobody would be saying “poor boy”!

SallyWD · 20/05/2024 10:15

Oh God, I'd feel so suffocated. I really need space or I go mad.

LakeTiticaca · 20/05/2024 10:13

Hell no I couldn't tolerate all this. Anyone of the instances you have described would put me off but all together it sounds awful.
I had an ex who was very clingy and needy, wanting to have his arms around me all the time. constantly asking how much I loved etc. Nowhere near as bad as your situation OP, but god was it annoying!!

ForLovingGreenDog · 20/05/2024 10:12

I'd find all of that very suffocating! However, she may be doing all those things for the right reasons, ie as a demonstration of love and affection. One exception, I'd say, is the friends thing. You can be friends with whomever you like and do not need your partner's approval about that, or anything in fact. If it becomes a case of her saying: "It's your friends or me." at that point I'd definitely draw the line. Perhaps try to have a sensitive conversation with her about feeling a bit claustrophobic at times, and that while you appreciate her doing things for you, your independence is also important. Also stress this isn't you rejecting her, you just want to do things for yourself at times. Again though, not being allowed to be friends with whomever you want would be a deal breaker for me.

MariaVT65 · 20/05/2024 10:09

What is your gut telling you op? Do you want to try and make it work or do you want to end it? Do you think you’d feel relieved if you ended it?

Her latest message to you sounds quite patronising to me tbh.

If you want to continue, I would suggest she needs some therapy.

If you want to end it, I would recommend just being completely honest with her. And if she asks for another chance, it’s too late because she already had her chances and didn’t listen to you.

GalileoHumpkins · 20/05/2024 10:09

Dancehalldarling · 20/05/2024 09:59

Update: since starting this thread she has sent me 14 messages. 3 of which I’ve replied to. The last one me saying I’m feeling a bit down and I can’t really be bothered constantly texting. She’s replied saying I’m pushing her away, she’s worried about me, she’s here for me, I’m the most beautiful person she’s ever laid eyes on, she’s so proud of the person I am, I have her and her families support always, she feels helpless that she can’t help me or “take it all away”

im not sure what to reply

This isn't working for me, I want to end things due to some behaviours of yours that make me uncomfortable. You don't respect my boundaries and treat me like a child, this isn't what I want from a romantic relationship.
Offer to talk about it in person but reiterate you won't be changing your mind.

zoemum2006 · 20/05/2024 10:09

Sounds like you’re not that into her and she’s become needy because of it.

you need a proper chat.

either break up with her or tell her that you need to come to a compromise between her needs and yours. You both need to decide whether the affection you’re comfortable showing is enough for her. If it’s not then she needs to find someone who makes her feel the level of security she needs.

DoubleeDenim · 20/05/2024 10:09

Dancehalldarling · 20/05/2024 09:59

Update: since starting this thread she has sent me 14 messages. 3 of which I’ve replied to. The last one me saying I’m feeling a bit down and I can’t really be bothered constantly texting. She’s replied saying I’m pushing her away, she’s worried about me, she’s here for me, I’m the most beautiful person she’s ever laid eyes on, she’s so proud of the person I am, I have her and her families support always, she feels helpless that she can’t help me or “take it all away”

im not sure what to reply

!!! Crikey. I don’t know how you are coping with this intensity OP. I think I would actually feel very stressed if I was dealing with this

ZebraD · 20/05/2024 10:07

And breath…..or maybe she wants to do that for you too….

DoubleeDenim · 20/05/2024 10:04

exaltedwombat · 20/05/2024 09:58

The poor girl's in love with you!

The last thing OP needs is more guilt-tripping! Being in love doesn’t give you carte blanche to control someone’s life

Dancehalldarling · 20/05/2024 10:00

exaltedwombat · 20/05/2024 09:58

The poor girl's in love with you!

I’m in love with her too, but I am starting to recognise very unhealthy patterns in the relationship. Which, out of love and respect, I want to stop.

OP posts:
Dancehalldarling · 20/05/2024 09:59

Update: since starting this thread she has sent me 14 messages. 3 of which I’ve replied to. The last one me saying I’m feeling a bit down and I can’t really be bothered constantly texting. She’s replied saying I’m pushing her away, she’s worried about me, she’s here for me, I’m the most beautiful person she’s ever laid eyes on, she’s so proud of the person I am, I have her and her families support always, she feels helpless that she can’t help me or “take it all away”

im not sure what to reply

OP posts:
MariaVT65 · 20/05/2024 09:59

It’s like she is treating you and the relationship as ideally what she thinks and want it to be, rather than seeing YOU for who you are and want you want eg thinking you may struggle when you don’t.

I would end this tbh. You need a more mature relationship that also lets you have independence.

exaltedwombat · 20/05/2024 09:58

The poor girl's in love with you!

Newnamehiwhodis · 20/05/2024 09:53

*good enough for you,
I had some ugly typos in my post 🫣

Shoxfordian · 20/05/2024 09:38

It probably comes from a place of insecurity and wanting you to need her, so she feels you won't leave but its toxic. I would suggest you end it and she clearly needs some therapy but she may not accept the suggestion.

Newnamehiwhodis · 20/05/2024 09:38

Oops. I think I accidentally clicked the wrong vote. Just know one of those is meant to be a BIG YANBU.

she is mothering you; it’s got controlling energy for sure.
she’s maybe an anxious attachment , or severely codependent - I’m not qualified to label - but whatever it is, the base of it is control. Control so she can feel safe and valuable and needed.

when this kind of thing intensifies, people have even been known to encourage illnesses in their loved ones.

your gut isn’t steering you wrong, here: this behavior isn’t healthy. She’s not allowing you independence.

the major red flag for me is her issues with your friends. Just NO! Truly awful - to say “they’re not good who hun for you.” WTF?!

massive red flags.

im sorry, OP. She needs therapy , and you’re not the one who can be the therapist.

just yuck - even one of these things would have me out the door, let alone all of them.

my ex (ok a man, but still) wanted me to be weak and dependent, so he could feel strong and feel needed and heroic, etc.
the whole not letting you carry your own bags is what reminded me. I never once opened a door during four years with this dude. He wouldn’t allow it.

sounds nice, maybe ? Chivalrous or something? It isn’t. It has the effect of turning a person into a doll, into someone who feels smaller; I gradually, over the years, lost my courage when I was with him.

this just seems like it’s only going to get worse. Whether she has good intentions or not - she can’t smother you like this and hope to have a healthy adult relationship.

KreedKafer · 20/05/2024 09:33

C1N1C · 20/05/2024 08:47

Did anyone else read this and think this partner HAS to be a man? These are things so called 'gentlemanly' men reportedly do, and think they should be doing... constant asking whether you're comfortable, pushing themselves into DIY tasks, making sure you're well 'fed and watered', carrying shopping bags...

I personally think this is them trying to be considerate and taking care of you, but I agree, there is a fine line between considerate, and smothering/controlling.

I agree with @BlastedPimples , this often leads to one feeling they do more and holding it against you.

First of all, you are very naive if you think only men can behave like this.

Secondly, when it’s combined with constant unwanted touching, sulking without daily contact and trying to isolate you from your friends, it’s not just them ‘wanting to take care of you’. Sometimes things that are OK in isolation are massive red flags within a bigger picture.

Coffeegincarbs · 20/05/2024 09:27

Not sure how long you've been in a relationship together but she acts like your DM or over zealous lovebombing new lover, not your GF, and that'd truly give me the ick too as to me needy feels desperate. Has she had many relationships before? She sounds more keen on you than you are of her (you don't mention that you love her?) and shes trying to control you by smothering you with kindness. Unequal partnerships are tricky to navigate until you reach a mutual understanding as the person who cares the least holds the power.
You are separate adult people and you have the parenting of DCs to consider so maybe your past being fussed over yourself as your default is to do that for your DC? Time to sit down together and talk about how you see your future together and how her behaviour is making you claustrophobic.

KreedKafer · 20/05/2024 09:26

Dancehalldarling · 20/05/2024 07:49

The pawing does drive me insane. I get quite overstimulated by that sort of thing. Wherever we are let’s say a queue or at a till waiting to pay she’ll be stroking my hips or back with the back of her hand. If I say I’m not in the mood for all this she takes offence and says her love language is physical touch so feels she needs to be always touching me.

my friends have been a bit crap over the last year (whole other story) but in my opinion nothing that warrants not liking them or I wouldn’t still be friends with them

If I say I’m not in the mood for all this she takes offence and says her love language is physical touch so feels she needs to be always touching me

This slightly made my blood run cold. The very thought of someone refusing to ever let me have my personal space makes me physically shudder.

And it’s not not ‘love language’ to be constantly touching someone against their will. It’s control and domination.

Penguinfeet24 · 20/05/2024 09:24

Omg I feel suffocated just reading about it let alone living it. YANBU, you're not a bloody child! I'd be out of there quicksmart.

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