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To think that the CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis should be fired?

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WandsOut · 20/05/2024 00:59

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5dc99960-be22-448d-ae42-371a058dce7f?shareToken=810c030b858153875ba6f64bd858ed8d

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This is an absolute nightmare of a case. If you've not been aware of it before now it's time to wake up and take a hard look at what is happening in women's support services across the UK. There seems to be a concerted effort to dismantle women's boundaries and withdraw support from vulnerable women who need spaces away from men.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 25/05/2024 13:08

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/05/2024 07:27

He should and the Board should also resign

however given how ineffective & inexperienced the Board were & are, I expect they’ll do nothing, agree amongst themselves that the judge must be a ‘TERF’ and MW will resign in a few months time, no doubt falling upwards into a political job

Probably Women’s Rights Adviser to the SNP, @Theeyeballsinthesky. Which would put the last nail in their electoral hopes (with any luck).

Poettree · 25/05/2024 13:03

Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/05/2024 09:08

I don’t think they can though @Poettree tjsts a huge part of the problem. They’re all young women who have 100% brought into this ideology. They’re going to see staying where they are as part of the righteous fight of the oppressed against the system

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So much internalised misogyny in this generation. It's very sad.

borntobequiet · 25/05/2024 09:33

Very powerful articles, the Mail one particularly good - comprehensive and detailed.
Am I normally a DM reader? Absolutely not.

Redbone · 25/05/2024 09:24

YANBU. This makes me really angry.

TheKeatingFive · 25/05/2024 09:21

Poettree · 25/05/2024 08:34

The women on the board needs to think about their long term employment prospects/career/reputation and jump - now. There is no way the centre can come back from this and carry on as business as usual, surely they see this and need to think about their own reputations? Because their CEO sure as shit isn't.

I think they're too young and inexperienced to understand that. Which is exactly why they were hired.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 25/05/2024 09:08

I don’t think they can though @Poettree tjsts a huge part of the problem. They’re all young women who have 100% brought into this ideology. They’re going to see staying where they are as part of the righteous fight of the oppressed against the system

Poettree · 25/05/2024 08:34

The women on the board needs to think about their long term employment prospects/career/reputation and jump - now. There is no way the centre can come back from this and carry on as business as usual, surely they see this and need to think about their own reputations? Because their CEO sure as shit isn't.

SinnerBoy · 25/05/2024 08:16

WandsOut · Today 02:22

www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-must-change-its-ways-sue-webber-4639923

Ooh, that's a beautifully excoriating piece! I've never seen an article quite like that in the press, no punches pulled at all !

NonPlayerCharacter · 25/05/2024 08:00

Of course he should be sacked. How is he still there?

ArabellaScott · 25/05/2024 07:53

Good articles, thank you. Glad to see this getting sunlight.

RedToothBrush · 25/05/2024 07:42

Thanks for the article. I hadn't clocked that Margaret McCartney was also involved with Beiras Place.

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murasaki · 24/05/2024 13:20

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/05/2024 12:48

Yeah, women want our stuff back.

Even the stuff we don't want to need, like single sex rape crisis centres.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/05/2024 12:48

Yeah, women want our stuff back.

ArabellaScott · 24/05/2024 12:46

Theeyeballsinthesky · 24/05/2024 11:39

https://www.rcgrampian.co.uk/female-survivors/

”we offer women only spaces which are inclusive of TW” so there are no actual services just for women

So wrong. 'Women only' spaces that are inclusive of males are far more damaging than a straightforward mixed sex space.

Will they include transmen in those spaces?

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 24/05/2024 11:42

akkakk · 23/05/2024 18:38

Not more of this!

the fact that he is CEO is irrelevant - many CEOs will be qualified in the main skills of their organisation - head teachers who are qualified teachers / counsellors who are qualified counsellors / etc.

The issue as is clear to everyone else on here is that he is a man. No woman post-rape wants her counselling to involve a man. I doubt that any woman would care if her counselling involved a female CEO who was a counsellor and did some time counselling and some time doing paperwork

Yes - being unqualified is an issue, but the main issue is that he is a man.
Being the CEO is of no issue at all.

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One thing leads to another. If you let someone have special treatment and break the rules and get their own way and each time more people just back them up and agree how wonderful and unique and special they are and how they know something no-one else knows and feel something no-one else can feel, until no-one dares to challenge them and they are surrounded by yes-people and surround themselves with more yes-people.... then one thing leads to another. Who needs to be female or even have a GRC to get a woman's job? Who needs qualifications to counsel women? Being MW is enough.

MW learned that the rules and boundaries that apply to everyone else don't apply to MW because other people didn't apply them to MW.

And this is the result.

SinnerBoy · 24/05/2024 11:34

Their behaviour is simply mind boggling. What, if anything, are they thinking?

Rainbowshit · 24/05/2024 11:21

Rape crisis Grampian sending a message today. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

x.com/psychgirl211/status/1793913067866362356?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Theeyeballsinthesky · 24/05/2024 11:02

So he’s basically not going to budge and the trustees are all too young, inexperienced and in thrall to sack him (plus I’ve no doubt he’s threatened them with a tribunal as well)

what a shit show

FranticFrankie · 24/05/2024 10:33

The more I read about this man the more disgust I feel. It’s outrageous and the people who let this happen should be thoroughly ashamed. They’re all complicit in this.
Did I see mention of a question ‘are you trans?’ On the application form? Is that allowed? And was it left blank?
So glad Roz won her appeal and more light on this is good- like a massive, fat, torch

Catsmere · 24/05/2024 03:32

Because he’s in the sacred caste of male cross dressers.

GeneralMusings · 24/05/2024 01:11

So how can he still be employed? Like if he's been found guilty?

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