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What if I can’t get on the plane?

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Northerngirl345 · 19/05/2024 22:30

My best friend and I are due to be flying long haul on Friday. I am a terrible flyer, it terrifies me, but I decided that if I booked fancy seats (business class) and could natter with my best friend the whole way - I’d be fine.

Well, today was the day to book seats and we can’t get two seats together. I’ve spent 2 hours on the phone to the airline and they say they can’t help. I even thought about upgrading to first class but this was going to cost £8k and they STILL couldn’t promise we’d be sat together as I’d have to pay before seeing what seats were available. I don’t actually have a spare £8k but I was tempted until I realised it wouldn’t solve my problem.

Now I just feel like I don’t want to go. I was already super nervous and this has pushed me over the edge.

My best friend flies alone all the time and can’t see the big deal. She thinks we’ll “laugh about this one day”.

Has anyone got any ideas to help me here?

YABU - suck it up and get on the plane
YANBU - cancel the trip / find a way to get 2 seats together.

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DappledThings · 24/05/2024 20:34

YaWeeFurryBastard · 24/05/2024 20:26

I apologise, I have never experienced this in many flights but obviously I stand corrected!

Thank you. I've also backtracked upthread saying I should have said it was a strong possibility rather than a certainty.

Maybe it's a new standard thing. Last week was my first long-haul in 12 years and my first time ever in BC so I was somewhat extrapolating!

YaWeeFurryBastard · 24/05/2024 20:28

listsandbudgets · 24/05/2024 20:25

@PandoraRocks That was a bit of an insensitive post given OP is on the plane right now!!

OP don't worry you're doing brilliantly - have another glass of wine Grin

OP will be catching the QE2 home 😂.

We weren’t born with wheels either but doesn’t stop us rolling down the motorway at 70mph.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 24/05/2024 20:26

DappledThings · 24/05/2024 19:57

Also, thought I’d mention as there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing over this - they have indeed switched the lights off. Which is surprising given that it’s day time in both London and New York.
Thank you for updating that! Nice to know that the claims I was "talking bollocks", "quite mad" and "making things up" weren't accurate after all when I said that would happen.

I apologise, I have never experienced this in many flights but obviously I stand corrected!

listsandbudgets · 24/05/2024 20:25

@PandoraRocks That was a bit of an insensitive post given OP is on the plane right now!!

OP don't worry you're doing brilliantly - have another glass of wine Grin

PandoraRocks · 24/05/2024 20:18

Deedeeee · 22/05/2024 08:44

Op, I heard this stat: more people die in trouser related incidents than in airplane crashes. Your anxiety is trying to protect you, but maybe digging into the facts will help?

Or see here for some more: https://www.travelstart.co.za/blog/6-ridiculous-things-more-likely-to-kill-you-than-a-plane-crash/

And if even rationally/statistically knowing you’ll be ok doesn’t change things, then I do think hypnotherapy is great as a pp said. Good luck!!

Yes but you're in a metal tube 30000ft in the air with nothing beneath but fresh air! A few Boeings crashed recently - one of them involving faked safety records, not to mention the turbulence on that flight from Singapore. Who could forget the air crash in the Andes where people ate their dead friends to survive.
All the people on here saying they're scared of flying but they have to do it. No you don't unless it is mandatory for your job. Why put yourself through it? I've been on a plane once when I was 12 years old. Hated it, was terrified as was my mum. Both of us cried on the plane and couldn't wait to land. I'm now 60 and haven't flown since. Made no difference to my life. So much easier not to bother. We weren't born with wings so not meant to fly.

RadRad · 24/05/2024 20:01

Take sleeping pills or wait until boarded and ask someone nicely to give up their seat next to your friend. Generally in business class people don’t care, it’s all nice.

DappledThings · 24/05/2024 19:57

Also, thought I’d mention as there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing over this - they have indeed switched the lights off. Which is surprising given that it’s day time in both London and New York.
Thank you for updating that! Nice to know that the claims I was "talking bollocks", "quite mad" and "making things up" weren't accurate after all when I said that would happen.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 24/05/2024 19:48

Northerngirl345 · 24/05/2024 15:04

I thought it would be fun to update from the plane as I have wifi!

Firstly, I’m fine. No drugs just a few champagnes in the lounge and a wine with my lunch on board. Chatted during take off (and didn’t enjoy it-obv) but then started watching a movie and had a snooze. Now I’m just watching the screen that shows the little plane’s progress and we’re over halfway!

Also, thought I’d mention as there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing over this - they have indeed switched the lights off. Which is surprising given that it’s day time in both London and New York.

So thanks again, everyone. Keep your fingers crossed for me that the rest of the flight is as smooth as it has been so far.

Great just as i suggested and do - I find the take offs and landing most difficult unless we get turnblance and or hailstones just after take-off

I have a few on the plane as well and the movie helps time, fly😂

Unopenedpackofmenssocks · 24/05/2024 15:08

Brilliant, fantastic update OP and you are a star for coming back to report on the lights out issue!

Have an amazing holiday.

Northerngirl345 · 24/05/2024 15:04

I thought it would be fun to update from the plane as I have wifi!

Firstly, I’m fine. No drugs just a few champagnes in the lounge and a wine with my lunch on board. Chatted during take off (and didn’t enjoy it-obv) but then started watching a movie and had a snooze. Now I’m just watching the screen that shows the little plane’s progress and we’re over halfway!

Also, thought I’d mention as there was a lot of to-ing and fro-ing over this - they have indeed switched the lights off. Which is surprising given that it’s day time in both London and New York.

So thanks again, everyone. Keep your fingers crossed for me that the rest of the flight is as smooth as it has been so far.

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JLM1981 · 24/05/2024 10:08

Not sure if that has been suggested OP, nervous flyer here. Had all sorts of treatment, several face to face hypnotherapy sessions, diazapam etc, wine (my own therapy).

One thing that really helped me was free podcasts on fear of flying. There are ample available on the podcast apps. Many by pilots. They cover every fear you might have and why it's unreasonable with examples. Try it. Really helped me. Good luck 🤞

Tracker1234 · 24/05/2024 09:29

I struggle with jet lag when arriving so GP has given me sleeping pills but NOT to be used on the plane itself. She said there have been issues with this as people take them as soon as they board and there could be delays. It then became tricky to move a person who took a sleeping pill an hour ago.

NoThanksymm · 24/05/2024 06:15

Good. You mentioned pre boarding wine. You’ll be good!

its safer than crossing the street.

i like a benedryl- get a nap in. But only for 4+ hours flights.

Ourlittletalks · 22/05/2024 22:40

I don’t know your position on prescription medications but if you have a fear of flying, your GP may be able to prescribe something to relax you on the flight

GreyBlind · 22/05/2024 21:26

I know it’s sorted now but people need to know you cannot get Xanax from an NHS GP. And it’s really not as easy to get diazepam or lorazepam from most decent GPs for flying either. Dodgy ones will probably be more likely to prescribe it.

Thund4rcat · 22/05/2024 21:20

Just to flag that alcohol + propranolol can make you dizzy and light headed if you're not used to it according to the NHS so maybe don't mix both unless you've done it before. That said you could ask your GP for a higher dose to use in stressful situations. I used to have 40mg propranolol for public speaking for example.

Cityandmakeup · 22/05/2024 20:21

Only thing that works for me is Valium. doesn’t take away the fear but instead I just don’t care that I am scared

suki1964 · 22/05/2024 20:04

Northerngirl345 · 22/05/2024 13:08

So much great advice on this thread - much appreciated!

Sadly I’m working right up to the last minute so no time for a cheeky hypnotherapy session but last night I watched lots of videos of the cabin on the plane, looked up the freebies I get in my goodie bag, looked up the movies and even chose what I fancied eating from the menu. I’m trying to look forward to the flight as an “experience”.

In answer to the many queries about why my friend didn’t choose the seats initially: we booked through BA but it’s an AA flight. So I think we got a “deal” initially but it took a while for the seat allocation to open. Even when I phoned BA (in tears) on Sunday, the agent wasn’t able to “see” what seats were available as it’s not their plane. Lesson learned about not booking this way again.

And that I think is really the best way moving forwards now on this - it will be an experience so go find as much enjoyment from it as you can :)

Look at the lounge as well and see how long you can have in there and arrange to take advantage of it, eat and drink the best and try to be there long enough to take advantage of any spa type experiences , a head or shoulder massage at least :)

Hopefully with the lounge experience, the priority check in etc, you will be relaxed enough that you can hold onto the nerves and you never know, you might find that a pair of noise cancelling ear phone ( so you dont hear the planes noises ) will be just the ticket and you will relax enough to be able to lie back and sleep

5YearsLeft · 22/05/2024 19:57

DappledThings · 22/05/2024 18:52

You've also missed the update 12 hours ago saying it was all sorted.

100% my fault. I’m a huge proponent of reading at least the OP’s comments and I failed this time.

Dancehalldarling · 22/05/2024 19:49

I actually cannot understand a fear of flying not through lack of trying but you do have my sympathy. Google the jelly plane theory if it helps at all?

what is it/what part are you actually scared of?

CraftyGin · 22/05/2024 19:11

Long haul business class inevitably means that you don't talk to your neighbour. There is a privacy screen between seats.

Duechristmas · 22/05/2024 19:09

The Dr will give you something to get you through. I also recommend the Virgin Fear of Flying course, it cured me completely. I went from needing medication to being utterly bored each flight.

DappledThings · 22/05/2024 18:52

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You've also missed the update 12 hours ago saying it was all sorted.

5YearsLeft · 22/05/2024 18:25

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RafaFan · 22/05/2024 17:14

Travel sickness tablets...make you feel a bit sleepy and detached.

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