Londoners have absolutely decimated my city

You mean - You can't bring a cottage anywhere.

I think some people need to look up the word 'decimated'. And realise that people can live where they like, even Londoners , without it being some kind of project or planned invasion. It sounds like you don't think outsiders should move to where you are, OP, but its fine for you to go and invade another location and bring your vibe. Sounds very hypocritical.

Not a problem in Brighton or London, local schools are closing- not enough babies born in 2020.

Thank you posters for making me giggle today 😂

Posters like the OP are the reason I live in London.

I'm not sure why OP is surprised. Plus it hasn't happened recently. My middle brother has been living there for 30 years and it's changed gradually, and I've been visiting at least once a year for all these years, so I'm not quite sure exactly what op is referring to.

"but I'm tempted to do that as am quite energised by the idea of trying to grow a new community, just trying to assess whether those places can be livened up though, "

10/10, would seethe at again

If that's a joke then it fails. If it's not a joke it is horrible.

YY to the harem pants!

Guitar propped casually in the corner.

I'm thinking wearing those batik harem pants with pictures of elephants on and a T-shirt with a ying and yang symbol?

Aaargh! Good points!
OP - it's full of people weeding their patios and reading "Hello" magazine.

Splendid flounce OP.

I'm tempted to do that as am quite energised by the idea of trying to grow a new community, just trying to assess whether those places can be livened up though, or whether I will leave town to try and contribute to creating a vibe somewhere else, only for it not to take off and then I will have lost my LL here. Guess that's a risk you just have to take though!

And after such charming arrogance

😂😂 Shh, they might like that as they’ll think they can tame the barbarians. Tell them it’s full of scaffolding and home improvements instead. And people that like to listen to music 😱

A while back I went to a social gathering (live on the South Coast) some people on our table were chatting and noticed I don't have a local accent and asked me where I'm from (DH is a local) and they then proceeded to moan about how the area has changed, all the houses being built etc and they preferred how it was 20 years ago. I asked where they were from and they said Uxbridge (or similar) I couldn't help myself and had to say to them aren't you part of the problem? You are complaining the area has changed because people like you are moving to it! I imagine the local people must have felt put out when your home was built! They had absolutely no self awareness at all. People are always going to move around the country, but with that is going to come change and rightly or wrongly it has to be accepted

I just knew this was going to be about Brighton before I opened it!

I hear you OP. I’ve lived here since I was 16, coming up to 20 years. I’m a musician too and gigged up until 2014 when I felt a change in the vibe. I don’t really like it here anymore. I don’t feel very safe now and a lot of areas in the centre look run down to me these days, but maybe I’m just getting old. I’ve been priced out now anyway and will need to move soon. I don’t know where to go though. I’m desperate for a garden and was hoping to be able to afford one but house prices are going up and up and up. I’m going to have to move to a different part of the country ultimately.

Having read the OP's flounce I now have a clear picture of them as someone who arrived in Brighton as an arts student and has a fine set of white person dreadlocks.

Couldn't agree more OP. Those pesky Londoners, coming and spending their money on the local art and gigs etc instead of creating more competition by providing their own art. How very dare they!

Definitely move somewhere else where everyone produces art and music and no one consumes it, sounds ideal ❤️

You do realise it’s your ‘locals’ who have driven up the house prices, right? They could all choose to have sold them at a little profit to other ‘localism’ but they chose to make whacking great profits.

Sorry but screw you. Come back to me when you’re paying £2500 a month for a two bed out in east London, and then I might have some sympathy for you. I know plenty of musicians and artists living in London who are going to be doing far worse than you due to the COL.

Or maybe you could actually blame the people who are in charge of this country for screwing everyone over. But no.

But when does someone become a 'Londoner'? I am living in London now, this is the fourth place I have been settled in the UK for an extended period of time. If I moved to Brighton would I be a Londoner moving in? Or someone from Norfolk because I grew up there?

It sounds like you are mainly annoyed at the influx of money, but I always remember Brighton being expensive/ affluent. We used to visit a friend at university there 20 years ago and we all knew of it as the most expensive place any of us had ended up. In my area of London we have also lost lots of friends who couldn't afford to move from couple style flats to family homes in the local area so have had to move elsewhere. It's hugely sad and I miss our friends too but I can see very few of the people around here grew up here either so maybe everywhere is just pretty transient.

Guarentee most DFLs are from the Home Counties!

😂The cheek of it.

If you’re still reading, it sounds like you’re a musician whose town has filled with people who want to consume music and have lots of money…

Do you see what I’m saying here?😆

'The Londoners are all about consuming rather than producing.

They want to live somewhere where they can consume art and music on tap, but they don't want to make any of it themselves. They just want to buy it.'

You think they don't have art and music on tap in London?!

Londoners have been moving to Brighton in droves for at least two decades now - there was something called the Cheeky Guide published which told them which schools to go for, etc. So not sure why you're noticing this now? Patcham is full of born and bred Brightonians as are Mile Oak, Hangleton... it's not like everyone has moved. Are you Brighton born or did you (and your mates?) arrive as a student?

You sound like such a Brighton cliche. Brighton has always been a little London by the sea, and pretty up itself too so it's not a matter of gentrification. It's often pricier than London (less house for your money) and much less diverse. It's also got no shortage of creatives so I wouldn't worry too much. Maybe they just don't want to play with you.

I think that very much depends on what area you’re in, whether you fit in with the locals and what you ask for when you go to the local cafe. Most I know would cackle at anyone claiming they were a Londoner because they’d moved from the Home Counties to work in an advertising agency.

@Whothefuckdoesthat true 😆😆