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To feel unsupported and misunderstood by work

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sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 10:31

I've been struggling with my job for a while and a couple of weeks ago had a meltdown which resulted in me needing the rest of the day off. I had booked a doctor's appointment for stress the following week, during which three tricky anniversaries were coming up too.

I was back the next day and in the meantime had suggested doing admin only or having a week to revise procedures so I'd feel more confident. I was put on more admin and less phone work so can't say no accommodation at all was made.

I also wouldn't say the section leader I had a meeting with was totally unsupportive or not a nice person. But her emphasis of how the job was high pressure, was I suited to it and how more would get expected of me made me feel under more stress.

In fairness she did say she didn't want people working out of hours as I had been to stay on top of my workload and practise/revise procedures. Yet when I don't get time to do that in the working day what else can I do?

The following week I was then put back on the phones as much as before with no check of whether I felt ready for it or not. Nobody checked in on me to see how I was coping at any point or how the doctor's appointment went. I was on the whole enjoying the job and feeling more confident but isn't that by the by?

Then I had a review yesterday where it was said I'm still making too many mistakes. I again said it might be an idea for me to have time off the phones and revise. The attitude that got taken was it's a business where people have to be on the phones and I've been given help with procedures.

I don't dispute the latter but can't help thinking if I had time to concentrate on revising them without other pressures or distractions they'd go in better. Then when I said I'd spend the weekend genning up I was told to do that if it helped. Yet it's flying in the face of the "don't work in your free time" I was given. I just feel so confused.

I am filling in a form for an autism test as I wonder whether struggling to retain information is part of that. But I'm reluctant to say anything in case it looks like card playing for more probation time.

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Gazelda · 18/05/2024 19:36

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:32

No, I don't - it never came out of my mouth I expected people to do all my phone work for me. I suggested doing less while I picked up their admin work for them. The revision time I now know wouldn't be so practical in work hours so I'm doing it in my own time. Both were also suggested to help my performance and therefore my team contribution. It was because of overwork for the team's benefit I felt I needed to see the doctor in the first place!

But what you're suggesting is for them to do more of the stressful part of the job (phones) so that you can work on the admin to build your confidence.

Does that feel fair on them to you?

How long have you worked there OP? You've been asked a number of times but not answered.

Merryoldgoat · 18/05/2024 19:35

If you consistently cannot meet your deliverables without a lot of overtime you are either not performing or you have too much work.

If you are not performing (which sounds like the issue) then you need to work out if you can get to the required standard and what you need to get there.

We are not all suited to the same jobs, you might need to think about what your skillset is suited to.

Aquamarine1029 · 18/05/2024 19:33

This is clearly not the job for you and your employer is not running a charity. They need the job done.

Nobody checked in on me to see how I was coping at any point or how the doctor's appointment went. I was on the whole enjoying the job and feeling more confident but isn't that by the by?

Op, you're not a child and they aren't your friends or parents. Accept the fact that this job isn't a good fit for you, which is in no way a failing, btw, and find a new role. You tried and it's not making you happy.

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:32

No, I don't - it never came out of my mouth I expected people to do all my phone work for me. I suggested doing less while I picked up their admin work for them. The revision time I now know wouldn't be so practical in work hours so I'm doing it in my own time. Both were also suggested to help my performance and therefore my team contribution. It was because of overwork for the team's benefit I felt I needed to see the doctor in the first place!

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LordSnot · 18/05/2024 19:28

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:17

Teaandscandal You said I was palming things off to suit myself and make the role what I wanted it to be. Sounds like self indulgent, spoilt irresponsibility to me!

You're projecting. Massively.

Hermittrismegistus · 18/05/2024 19:27

You need to find a new job. Better to jump before you're pushed.

TeaandScandal · 18/05/2024 19:21

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:17

Teaandscandal You said I was palming things off to suit myself and make the role what I wanted it to be. Sounds like self indulgent, spoilt irresponsibility to me!

But you do expect your colleagues to take on the parts you feel unable to do, yes?

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:19

Roundroundthegarden I agree other people on the team are team players - I was just pointing out I am too as certain individuals on here don't seem to think so!

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TeaandScandal · 18/05/2024 19:19

How long have you worked there, op?

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:17

Teaandscandal You said I was palming things off to suit myself and make the role what I wanted it to be. Sounds like self indulgent, spoilt irresponsibility to me!

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Roundroundthegarden · 18/05/2024 19:12

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:07

TeaandScandal I really find that comment quite offensive, tbh. I resent being basically called a self indulgent, buck passing spoilt brat.

If I wasn't a team player I wouldn't work at least 10 hours per week more than my contracted ones. I would have given up long since. I wouldn't be revising procedures over the weekend as I currently am trying to do despite a migraine. All I've asked for is a very short term measure I feel would benefit everyone long term and which I as a manager would look into!

Op but you spending more time isn't a favour to them? It's because you can't keep up with the current workload, that everyone else is managing .by that definition everyone else is also a team player.

DaftyLass · 18/05/2024 19:10

It sounds like you are a customer service rep in a contact centre, if so, I get it, as I did that for years myself.
A job that is always changing will mean you always have to be learning, getting ready to change how you were trained to do a thing, taking on new information, while maintaining high standards.
Forgive me if I am heading the wrong way, but if this is close to your situation, I'd be job hunting like it was to save my life.

TeaandScandal · 18/05/2024 19:09

Interesting take on what I actually said, op?

Gazelda · 18/05/2024 19:09

TeaandScandal · 18/05/2024 18:56

You’re talking about redefining your role (and crucially, the role of your colleagues) to suit yourself, op.
You can’t hand over aspects of your job to someone else so you can concentrate on the parts you feel you’re good at.
Especially when the part you’re trying to palm off is a fundamental part of the role.
Think about it.

Edited

I agree with this.

OP, do you feel confident to speak with your manager about your workload? Doing your role, but with temporarily reduced quantity?

I think you need to book a meeting with your manage to have a frank conversation about how you're coping with workload. It may be that you simply aren't suited to the role. Or it may be that they'd be prepared to provide additional time for learning so that you can get up to the speed of your colleagues.

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 19:07

TeaandScandal I really find that comment quite offensive, tbh. I resent being basically called a self indulgent, buck passing spoilt brat.

If I wasn't a team player I wouldn't work at least 10 hours per week more than my contracted ones. I would have given up long since. I wouldn't be revising procedures over the weekend as I currently am trying to do despite a migraine. All I've asked for is a very short term measure I feel would benefit everyone long term and which I as a manager would look into!

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Roundroundthegarden · 18/05/2024 18:59

This doesn't sound like the job for you. They don't need to build your confidence or the things you are asking for. If you can't perform the core function of the role then you are not meeting the job specifications.

TeaandScandal · 18/05/2024 18:56

You’re talking about redefining your role (and crucially, the role of your colleagues) to suit yourself, op.
You can’t hand over aspects of your job to someone else so you can concentrate on the parts you feel you’re good at.
Especially when the part you’re trying to palm off is a fundamental part of the role.
Think about it.

OutOfTea · 18/05/2024 18:53

What I'm basically finding hard is remembering all the procedures and getting things done within the allotted time frame while maintaining quality. There are constantly tasks coming in on the back of calls as well as emails to answer. Then procedures and products regularly change

What you're finding hard is your job.

It does sound harsh to say it but that's an awful lot of the main requirements of your job that you're not currently able to meet.

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 18:49

What I'm basically finding hard is remembering all the procedures and getting things done within the allotted time frame while maintaining quality. There are constantly tasks coming in on the back of calls as well as emails to answer. Then procedures and products regularly change

I'm having to work often 2 hours beyond the end of my shift to get everything done, which reduces my ability to retain or revise things. What tipped me over the edge was this bloke expressing a lack of confidence in me and really being quite arrogant - I would say ultimately he was the trigger and not the problem.

I certainly don't expect calls in a call facing job not to form the bulk of it. I just think there are better ways to build up confidence for handling it than emphasising pressure on you. I think I would still make a valuable contribution being temporarily more admin based - that would reduce others' workloads while helping me go back to more basics and build up confidence/ability.

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OutOfTea · 18/05/2024 18:08

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 17:55

OutOfTea It's much easier said than done getting a new job and bills have to be paid in the meantime. Also I didn't say I disliked the job - I said I had actually been enjoying it on the whole. I don't want to give up or lose it for that reason and have been fighting to keep it!

Of course it's not easy but ultimately that's the solution.

And you say you've enjoyed it on the whole but you're struggling with the telephone aspect of it which it the main part. You've already had time off for stress.

As I said I have ASD and reasonable adjustments. The expectations of me are exactly the same as they are of anyone else. There are no concessions made for that at all. But things are put in place that make the parts of my job that are harder because of asd more accessible to me. And none of them involved me taking paid time away from my job to do.

I have had other friends who have experienced similar difficulties in jobs and have made demands/requests. One has had several jobs in as many years and ended up going to the union and making formal complaints in every one. Mostly because she can't understand why they're not more interested in her and her wellbeing. None has been upheld. Because in the end her requests aren't reasonable and she hasn't actually been able to fulfill the requirements of the job.

She's now somewhere that she's far more suited to and happy.

Medschoolmum · 18/05/2024 18:05

OP, you haven't really explained why you were struggling with your job in the first place and what led to your meltdown. You haven't explained why you are making so many mistakes or why you need extra time to revise the procedures that your employer clearly thinks you should already know.

You want them to be more accommodating but you have acknowledged that they have already given you some time away from the phones and that you've had help with the procedures. You have acknowledged that the phones are a central part of the role.

What have you actually done so far to give your employers the confidence that you are going to turn this around?

TeaandScandal · 18/05/2024 17:56

How long have you worked there, op?

sajamor0811 · 18/05/2024 17:55

OutOfTea It's much easier said than done getting a new job and bills have to be paid in the meantime. Also I didn't say I disliked the job - I said I had actually been enjoying it on the whole. I don't want to give up or lose it for that reason and have been fighting to keep it!

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bonzaitree · 18/05/2024 17:41

This sounds really hard OP.

A gentle suggestion that perhaps a telephone based role may not be best for someone with Autism (or someone who suspects some neurodivergence.

The good news is many other roles will suit you. How about something process driven and home-based?

Medschoolmum · 18/05/2024 17:32

If that means them having a bit of time out to build up their confidence then surely it's a worthwhile investment?

It is absolutely a worthwhile investment if they have confidence in your ability to do the job well and contribute as a valueable employee. In this particular scenario, I suspect that they think you're unable to do the job and consequently there isn't much point in investing too heavily.