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To not like nicknames as full names?

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newuser9632794 · 18/05/2024 01:17

Some (secondary school aged) children in my family have nicknames as full names and as they grow older I feel the names suiting them less and less.

Some of the names,

Melly
Stevie
Bobby
Ali
Ricky

AIBU to think that naming children nicknames doesn't age well and that full names on the birth certificates are more fitting?

OP posts:
Letsbuildazoo · 18/05/2024 14:49

I think some nicknames work and some don't.
From that list, Stevie and Ricky seem fine to me but I wouldn't put Melly on a birth certificate.
Names like Alfie and Rosie won't even be seen as nicknames by the next generation.

sunglassesonthetable · 18/05/2024 14:40

All these shortened names will be so common and already are.

The whole " but what if they are a barrister ? "
nonsense is just in people's imagination. It's not the 50s anymore.

sunglassesonthetable · 18/05/2024 14:38

My Teddy is 25 and is totally happy with it. And goes by it professionally. 6'5" and built like a proverbial . Suits him to a tee. @Jeezitneverends

And for disclosure it's Edward on his BC. But no one knows that except close family and anyone who has seen his Exam certificates. And no one ever asks him " is that Edward? "

TealDog · 18/05/2024 14:37

I think it’s so common for babies to be called Eddie/Archie/Lottie etc with no full names on their BC that it really won’t be a problem in 10/20 years when they’re all adults.

effoffwind · 18/05/2024 14:34

He's my grandson

I'm sure that in the same way us Jan's, Pam's , Sue's , Pat's etc will manage to get by
It's really not that deep
My diminutive son is a head teacher
My daughter is head of HR in the NHS

Every generation goes through the same thing

Jeezitneverends · 18/05/2024 14:27

effoffwind · 18/05/2024 14:09

I have a Teddy

I wish I had a quid for every time someone asked me if his name was Edward

No , it's Teddy

I wonder how he’ll feel about that when he’s 16

whyhavetheygotsomany · 18/05/2024 14:13

This is why we all get to choose our own children's names. You don't like them but obviously they do !

ComtesseDeSpair · 18/05/2024 14:12

It’s always struck me as a complete non-issue. Whatever’s written on your birth certificate, anyone can choose to be known by any name they want - just as somebody with Frederick on their birth certificate can choose to go by the nickname Freddie when they like, somebody with Freddie on their birth certificate could choose to go by the nickname Frederick when they like. There’s literally no difference, the latter is just less usual. The idea that Freddie is eternally doomed by his name in a way Frederick isn’t is bonkers.

effoffwind · 18/05/2024 14:09

I have a Teddy

I wish I had a quid for every time someone asked me if his name was Edward

No , it's Teddy

guineverehadgreeneyes · 18/05/2024 13:17

SpikeGilesSandwich · 18/05/2024 10:26

My DS saw a consultant at the hospital yesterday and according to his card, his name is just Ed. It says, "Mr Ed Surname-Surname MBBS, BSc, FRCS " etc.
I'll admit to being slightly surprised it wasn't Edward, Edmund, Edwardo or whatever but it doesn't make me doubt his medical prowess in any way.

I've had a consultant called "Dr Michael XXXX" who styles himself as "Dr Mike XXXX" on his private surgical work website and a "Dr Charles XXXXX" whose NHS bio refers to him as "Charlie".

Your husband's consultant may well be an "Edward" or "Edmund" but prefers to be known professionally as "Ed".

Basilsage · 18/05/2024 12:49

HelloDenise · 18/05/2024 08:58

But he's called Melvin isn't he?

Yes. Was said as Melly in the days of stardom. Shows the wide range of names covered!

Not sure i'd have wanted a nickname type name on the birth certificate for our two, but they are all into full age long ago.

prettybird · 18/05/2024 12:25

My mother's name was Toni (born during the war). No middle name Grin.

She used to tell me how her headteacher insisted on calling her Antonia even though that wasn't her christened name Confused

TheFunHasGone · 18/05/2024 12:25

newuser9632794 · 18/05/2024 10:47

Some names have evolved to where the shortened versions are used more commonly than the original versions.

What I'm referring to, though, would be someone calling their Child Tommy not Tom or Thomas.

Mines called Tommy, with some of the solicitors names I see every day I'm not worried about it

tigger1001 · 18/05/2024 12:20

TheKeatingFive · 18/05/2024 12:17

What sort of message does it give professionally. He can be called the shortened name in everyday life, just give him a proper name to begin with!

I really don't understand this comment. There is absolutely zero issue with people being called Ali, Ricky or Bobby in a professional environment.

Exactly! I don't get it either.

TheKeatingFive · 18/05/2024 12:17

What sort of message does it give professionally. He can be called the shortened name in everyday life, just give him a proper name to begin with!

I really don't understand this comment. There is absolutely zero issue with people being called Ali, Ricky or Bobby in a professional environment.

Nosleepforthismum · 18/05/2024 12:13

My mum used my full name as a marker of how mad she was and how much trouble I was in. I still think “oh shit” if she uses my full name now even though I’m married with two kids 😅

protectthesmallones · 18/05/2024 12:01

I really agree, it drives me potty.

Over the years I've congratulated new parents and then I find out that this poor child has a diminutive name as his full name.

I've always bitten my tongue, it's not my place obviously.

But why do this to a child?

What sort of message does it give professionally. He can be called the shortened name in everyday life, just give him a proper name to begin with!

These parents are naming a cute baby, they aren't thinking about 30 years time when a qualified professional might want a proper name.

Oooohhhhh. Nice to finally be able to share my frustrations.

Jeezitneverends · 18/05/2024 11:53

DramaAlpaca · 18/05/2024 02:20

FFS, read the post! OP has clearly said Melly etc is on the birth certificate so not short for anything.

I tend to agree with OP, but I'm willing to accept I'm old fashioned. I like classic names, preferably short enough that they don't lend themselves to diminutives. That's what I did with my DC, anyway.

There's a trend these days for diminutives/short forms of names as given names. Note - they aren't nicknames, those are different and unrelated to actual names, like Ginger or Shorty or something. Diminutives, please.

I don't like the trend for diminutives personally. I mean, call him Freddie if you absolutely must but at least put the more dignified Frederick on the birth certificate.

But then I'm old and traditional, and I have to accept that naming styles change.

I’m with you, use the full name and shorten it from birth if you like, but the full name gives the child options

LakeTiticaca · 18/05/2024 11:50

I must say I prefer the full names. Lots of little boys around called Teddy just now now, which is cute for a baby but why not Edward,? It's a good strong name and at least little Teddy will have a choice as he grows older.
My mother never liked names that could be shortened and named all of us with names that were difficult to shorten ( given the choice I would have been named Cleopatra 😅) my best friend was called Victoria, known as Vicky but my mother always called her Victoria. 40 years later we bumped into her in town and my mum said ",oh hello Vicky"
I nearly fainted with shock🤣🤣

CoffeeBeansGalore · 18/05/2024 11:48

I have a name which is frequently used as a shortened version of another name. People assume the longer name is my actual name.

I had issues in school of teachers calling me the long name. I had to ignore them and then point out they were not calling me, my name is xxx not yyyyyyyyy. I thought they were speaking to the girl called yyyyyyy (I went to school with numerous yyyyyyyy's).

I was discussing a contract over the phone & the woman said I need your full name, this is a legal contract. I replied that IS my full name. The "oh" after I said that was somewhat huffy. I think she had already put in what she assumed was my "full" name.

Also there are several spellings of how my name sounds.

It can be annoying. I do not like my name. I detest my middle name (an old but never popular one) so going with that was never an option.

ChildrenOfTheQuorn · 18/05/2024 11:35

My daughter has a 'proper' name on the birth certificate, and a day-to-day nickname. Her nickname is cute now while she's only little but I wouldn’t ever want her to be embarrassed at a later date. I think it's shortsighted not to give the child an option at a later date to go by either name...

Immemorialelms · 18/05/2024 11:28

Just about acceptable these days... Polly, Molly, Daisy, Jack, Sam.

Tom, Milly, any of the diminutives of Robert, Edward, Nicholas, William - nopes.

Newly in fashion names- Luna, Harper, Milo - ok, weirdly!

Immemorialelms · 18/05/2024 11:27

It's class isn't it. Having a longer name is a signifier of understanding of tradition, a certain kind of level of education and familiarity with old money, the culture of elites, etc etc. I guess I think it's bollocks but I want my children to have the option to look as if they know as many of the codes and cultures of power as possible, in case it helps them achieve more social power. And if they don't need it, great.

For that reason I'd never give a child a shortened name or miss out middle names.

There's also a subtle power in walking away from it, but only in the prescribed way and only with names from one layer, which have been posh diminutives for ages. So being a very posh girl called Daisy as a Christian name is OK but being called Ellie might not be.

Harry being the case in point. Plebs might think Harry is a real name. Prince Harry's name is Henry.

sciencemama · 18/05/2024 11:22

Each to their own I have known people with nicknames names but it's their registered name
Ricky
Rich
Libby
Lizzie
Billy
Tom
Kate
Sam
Donnie

sueelleker · 18/05/2024 11:11

I don't mind diminutives. The only problem I can see is teachers (or other officials) insisting that the child's name must be the long version. ("No, your name can't be Penny, it must be Penelope" -insinuating that the child is too stupid to know their own name)