To not like nicknames as full names?

@DramaAlpaca

FFS, read the post! OP has clearly said Melly etc is on the birth certificate so not short for anything.
Jesus you are hostile. In any case you are the one who has failed to read the post. The OP is referring to nicknames being used as actual official names. They then listed a bunch of these names. Ergo Melly is typically considered a nickname.

But how is it different? I don't get that. It's as much an option as it is for a Charlotte to be known as lottie, or Charlie etc

But maybe that's because I know people who are known as names completely unconnected to what's on their birth certificate. What's on there doesn't determine what you want to be known as, if you want to be known as something different.

How many of us actually know for sure what's on someone's birth certificate? I posted earlier about discovering someone's birth certificate name at their funeral. A family member of my partner it was the topic of conversation after the funeral as even some close family members were unaware of the persons name on their birth certificate.

@tigger1001 it's completely different. If Lottie is on the birth certificate then that's it, there is no Charlotte option surely. I struggle to see how there is (unless you go down the deed poll route and change your name entirely). Anyway let's agree to disagree.

But that's equally true of a lottie - she could say she wants to be known as Charlotte. Its not any different.

@tigger1001 your question is my entire point though. My dd is actually a Charlotte but could be Lottie or Charlie if she wishes one day. So if she 'didn't want to be Charlotte forever' then there's your answer. I just can't understand removing the option.

That can be said about any name - who says that she would want to be Charlotte forever?

You don't have to get it. Its ok if you woukd prefer to use a different name on the birth certificate. But others don't want to do that. And that's ok too.

I also don't love it.

A few I've seen recently as legal names..

Ollie (not Oliver)
Theo
Bobby
Andie
Maddie
Til (as in the nickname for Matilda)
Alex (for a boy - not Alexander but called Alex)
Bea (not Beatrice)

It's actually been made harder in the last 20 or so years to use a different name.

So if "Freddie" wants to make sure he's "Frederick" he needs to do a deed poll.

There as on official forms "Frederick" can just use his formal name and tell people he prefers one of the socially accepted diminutives of "Freddie" or "Fred".

If you called your son Teddy now he would be in the same year as Kit, Hunter, Tilly, Freddie, Ronnie, Hattie, Luna, Milo

Well not always. The only Tilly I know has Matilda on her birth certificate, as do the Fredericks. I know two Hatties, both short for Harriet.

We still know lots of little ones with traditional names.

Completely agree, can't stand it. Both mine have longer formal names.

My other pet hates are dubious spellings
(Jaxon...) and names that were surnames (especially occupational ones) as given names - taylor, porter, chandler etc

My DD and my stepson both have nicknames as their proper name, so I of course disagree. Some names that suit kids don't suit adults, and often I see someone called Billy as a child reverts to William as an adult (though of course that is their actual name, they don't have 'Billy' on their birth certificate).

Is that because he's being naughty or they want his attention?

If someone knows you or likes you including very quickly they try to find out what your diminutive is.

Btw my DD first name doesn't have a diminutive. Her middle names do.

Sorry, just reread post and you said 'May not', which qualifies it.

However more broadly, that's true of any name at all.

How would you know whether she'll want to be known as Lottie when she's older?

People don't understand the power of names.

There is a presumption on here that the child is going to only live and work in the UK, plus their name will always be fashionable and understood even in the UK.

What is there to get? They liked the name. People like different things to you. These sort of names are quite standard now so they will be associated with their generation. They might not necessarily sound middle class but that doesn't matter to a lot of people (in the real world, away from mumsnet).

This is probably really snobby of me, but when I hear children called Bobby or Reggie, I imagine them growing up to be a medical professional, Engineer or Vet....

Times have changed. 🤷‍♀️

I worked in a children's hospital, and we had a patient called T.J...

A friend of a friend named their child AJ... Full name. AJ..

They are not nicknames they are shortened names Nicknames are entirely different.

Yanbu I once met a kid who used is lottie - even on her birth certificate. Just put Charlotte on the birth certificate or choose another name altogether! She may well not want to be Lottie forever.

I also know an Ollie when it should be Oliver. I just don't get it.

If you’re the barrister why would you give a shit? Also pretty sure Roberts and Johns still get convicted of crimes.

@MiddleParking Bulger killers case in point

Curious to know if William would be in this category? Was in two minds about called next DS that.

Many years ago, I was at another supermarket where I work and heard a mother scream "Summer Breeze, get over hear now". Just happen to be by the fabric conditioners and saw a FC - Summer Breeze.

Parents should not use laundry products to name their kids. Nor celebs as when the DC is at school age, that celeb may not be in the celeb world or done a Savile.