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To not like nicknames as full names?

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newuser9632794 · 18/05/2024 01:17

Some (secondary school aged) children in my family have nicknames as full names and as they grow older I feel the names suiting them less and less.

Some of the names,

Melly
Stevie
Bobby
Ali
Ricky

AIBU to think that naming children nicknames doesn't age well and that full names on the birth certificates are more fitting?

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FilthyforFirth · 19/05/2024 17:49

I personally would never do it, but I am rather small c conservative at times.

I would always have the full name on the bc even if I planned a shortened version. Just seems proper to me!

Riversideandrelax · 19/05/2024 17:49

Pin0cchio · 18/05/2024 19:54

If you called your son Teddy now he would be in the same year as Kit, Hunter, Tilly, Freddie, Ronnie, Hattie, Luna, Milo

Well not always. The only Tilly I know has Matilda on her birth certificate, as do the Fredericks. I know two Hatties, both short for Harriet.

We still know lots of little ones with traditional names.

Harriet is short for Henrietta.

Riversideandrelax · 19/05/2024 17:46

TheKeatingFive · 18/05/2024 19:43

Sorry, just reread post and you said 'May not', which qualifies it.

However more broadly, that's true of any name at all.

Exactly. What if they don't like Lottie? What if they don't like Charlotte either?

Riversideandrelax · 19/05/2024 17:43

bakewellbride · 18/05/2024 19:15

Yanbu I once met a kid who used is lottie - even on her birth certificate. Just put Charlotte on the birth certificate or choose another name altogether! She may well not want to be Lottie forever.

I also know an Ollie when it should be Oliver. I just don't get it.

Because people can call themselves whatever they like! Don't want to be Lottie forever, then don't be! But how bizarre to put a name you do not like on the BC just in case the DC doesn't like their given name. What if she doesn't like Charlotte?

HcbSS · 19/05/2024 17:24

Tukmgru · 18/05/2024 06:46

I know it’s not on there but there are 500 kids called Teddy in every play group I go to and I wince every time I hear it. I can only imagine that many a Teddy will go by Ed when they’re older to escape the cutesiness and be taken seriously.

Literally loath this. Teddy is a dog’s name, or a toy bear.
Edward is a great, noble name.
Same applies to Freddie, Tilly, Tommy, etc. Gives me the major ick. Remember those kids will one day have to apply for jobs and be taken seriously.

tigger1001 · 19/05/2024 17:21

"ComtesseDeSpair
It’s always struck me as a complete non-issue. Whatever’s written on your birth certificate, anyone can choose to be known by any name they want - just as somebody with Frederick on their birth certificate can choose to go by the nickname Freddie when they like, somebody with Freddie on their birth certificate could choose to go by the nickname Frederick when they like. There’s literally no difference, the latter is just less usual. The idea that Freddie is eternally doomed by his name in a way Frederick isn’t is bonkers.

Exactly! All this give the DC a choice! Everyone has a choice, anyway!"

Absolutely 💯% this!

Riversideandrelax · 19/05/2024 17:16

IsadoraQuagmire · 18/05/2024 16:24

I used to have a girlfriend called Katie. I was astonished when I asked her what it was short for and she said it was her full name. I still think it's odd.

Astonished? Kate or Katie is such a common name, though.

Riversideandrelax · 19/05/2024 17:15

YankSplaining · 18/05/2024 16:05

What was it Aunt Petunia Dursley thought about Harry Potter’s name, again? “Nasty, common name if you ask me.” 😂

I feel like Harry and Jack seem more legitimate as official names than something like Alfie or Freddie. Something about the “-ie” just seems childlike to me. Not saying this is logical, but that’s how I feel.

Harry ends with an 'ie' sound too.

Riversideandrelax · 19/05/2024 17:10

ComtesseDeSpair · 18/05/2024 14:12

It’s always struck me as a complete non-issue. Whatever’s written on your birth certificate, anyone can choose to be known by any name they want - just as somebody with Frederick on their birth certificate can choose to go by the nickname Freddie when they like, somebody with Freddie on their birth certificate could choose to go by the nickname Frederick when they like. There’s literally no difference, the latter is just less usual. The idea that Freddie is eternally doomed by his name in a way Frederick isn’t is bonkers.

Edited

Exactly! All this give the DC a choice! Everyone has a choice, anyway!

Martinii · 19/05/2024 13:06

Two names I've heard recently which are awful are:

Jax
Izzy

But then who cares what my opinion is 😆

sunglassesonthetable · 19/05/2024 12:59

Eddie George ( always known as that ) was previous Governor of Bank of England. How cute is that?!

Andy Burnham ( always known as that ) is Mayor of Greater Manchester .

And Monty Don, Bear Grylls, Bunny, Bill Gates, Plum Sykes, Mick Lynch, Bob Iger, Tulip Saddiq, Liz Truss, Dee Dee Myers, Alfie Boe, Ted Heath.

Loots of these had the formal version of their name on their BC . Never needed them.

KarmenPQZ · 19/05/2024 12:08

RandomID · 18/05/2024 22:59

I have an Edward that has been known as Teddy, Ted, Tedbot, Tedasaurus Rex, Toots, and probably another half dozen diminutives and nicknames.

I used Edward so there would be scope for him to choose what he felt comfortable with as he grows. He’s a teen now, and prefers Ted at the moment.

That said, I don’t judge people who just use diminutives. It’s one of the perks of parenthood, choosing the name.

I have a standard 80’s name, and my mum was always furious if she caught anybody shortening it or using a nickname. Ironically, I’m most well known by a diminutive that she herself went by as a teen - as it works for quite a few women’s names.

But if you put Ted on the birth certificate he could have still used ‘Teddy, Ted, Tedbot, Tedasaurus Rex, Toots, and probably another half dozen diminutives and nicknames.’

’serious’ names vs ‘nicknames’ is putting your own prejudices and preconceived notions on a person. Why can’t a Barbie become prime minister.

stawbly · 19/05/2024 11:50

I'm not really bothered by what people call their kids, to be honest.

My son's name is on your list. If we gave him the more traditional name, it wouldn't have been 'him' at all. He very much suits his 'nickname name'. Also, I've come across many older women/men who've asked his name, asked 'is it short for X' and when we've said it isn't, they've replied that they love that! So maybe traditional names just aren't all that anymore.

Besides, if you think about it, not many people are calling their baby things like Richard and Margaret anymore, so these names will more than likely sound normal and respectable when they're older. I met an adult Teddy a short while ago and he very much suited his name. Didn't feel like he had a cutesy name at all. Official name, too.

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x2boys · 19/05/2024 10:44

bakewellbride · 18/05/2024 20:58

@tigger1001 your question is my entire point though. My dd is actually a Charlotte but could be Lottie or Charlie if she wishes one day. So if she 'didn't want to be Charlotte forever' then there's your answer. I just can't understand removing the option.

Maybe she could just be Charlotte sometimes ....

YorkNew · 19/05/2024 08:14

My worse name ever is Zander.

Riversideandrelax · 19/05/2024 07:41

My DS's name is a shortened name for Leonard (or Leonardo.) I like the shortened name but not the long version. Plus I wanted a short name as we have a long 3 worded surname.

coupdetonnerre · 19/05/2024 07:32

Airyfairy99 · 18/05/2024 01:19

What is Melly short for ?

Mellard
Melon
Melania
Merlin

ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs · 19/05/2024 01:02

Reugny · 18/05/2024 19:44

Is that because he's being naughty or they want his attention?

If someone knows you or likes you including very quickly they try to find out what your diminutive is.

Btw my DD first name doesn't have a diminutive. Her middle names do.

No, just because they don't know him

WilliamButt · 19/05/2024 00:02

newuser9632794 · 18/05/2024 02:30

I agree @FarmGirl78 @DramaAlpaca

It just seems to be so restrictive also.
Melly is very "cutesy"
Bobby would be much better as Robert and then they have so much more room to pick a nickname should they wish.

I'm imagining when they're older and applying for something. What is your name? "Ricky", what's your full name? "That is my full name"

Obviously some traditional "nicknames" have now become common as first names eg David (although I still prefer Dave)

Surely you mean the other way around i.e. Dave is a nickname for David.

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 18/05/2024 23:39

My DS is called Charlie, and we preferred that to Charles

(Definitely wouldn't have called him Chuck, though).

OTOH, my DD is Isabella but we mostly call her Izzy. We chose a name that she could shorten in different ways if she preferred eventually: Izzy, Bella, Ella.

I guess everything is different these days though, when it comes to names.

Gillyyy · 18/05/2024 23:32

curiouslycoy · 18/05/2024 19:13

Curious to know if William would be in this category? Was in two minds about called next DS that.

I think William would be fine! I would put it with James, George, Henry which are all classic and don’t seem as dated as Richard and Robert! Just my opinion though :)

TheFunHasGone · 18/05/2024 23:19

I don't think it matters , Tommy can go by Tommy, Tom or Thomas if he chooses , even if Thomas isn't on the bc . I don't actually know any adults that go by Thomas

sunglassesonthetable · 18/05/2024 23:07

I go by a misspelt diminutive of my BC name. I'm not a barrister or a surgeon granted, but I'm a professional in my industry.

It's neither here nor there.

RandomID · 18/05/2024 22:59

I have an Edward that has been known as Teddy, Ted, Tedbot, Tedasaurus Rex, Toots, and probably another half dozen diminutives and nicknames.

I used Edward so there would be scope for him to choose what he felt comfortable with as he grows. He’s a teen now, and prefers Ted at the moment.

That said, I don’t judge people who just use diminutives. It’s one of the perks of parenthood, choosing the name.

I have a standard 80’s name, and my mum was always furious if she caught anybody shortening it or using a nickname. Ironically, I’m most well known by a diminutive that she herself went by as a teen - as it works for quite a few women’s names.