Would you fly on a 737 MAX plane?

I have taken 4 flights on 737 maxes - no worries.
Would fly on one any time and certainly wouldn't pay extra to fly on something different.

read her post properly. He was promised in writing that he wouldn't have the craft, and when he was on the plane he saw the safety sheet and realised they HAD put him on the plane.

I imagine he stood up and made a fuss they take that quite seriously on planes.

If you don't understand whyx then do your research. A whistleblower was recently killed by Boeing just before he was due to give testimony on the lack of safety of one particular model. There is apparently a second whistle blower which the same happened to. There has been Boeing problem almost every month (doors flying off, part of the plane falling off when flying)

No, I absolutely wouldn't fly in one, I would rather pay more and fly in something else.

Just thought ‘no’ then searched what ours is for our summer holiday.. 737 MAX 8 😩😩😩 It’s with tui and does the route twice a week but still feels like a risk and I hate flying at the best of times

Definitely no, after all the recent scandals involved with Boeing. I'd rather pay the extra £120.

How did he force them? Stand up and show his phone to a cabin attendant, who quickly phoned the captain, who then pulled out of his take off slot because of an email? This sounds like bull shit.

To those saying the MAX wouldn’t be cleared to fly if it was unsafe: it crashed twice in 2018/19. It was cleared to go back in the air.

And then grounded again in January after the Alaska Airlines incident.

that’s a few too many oversights for me.

No. I don’t trust any of the newer Boeing planes. Watch The Case Against Boeing on Netflix and you’ll see why. People have literally died due to their incompetence and money-grabbing, it’s absolutely criminal.

How ridiculous.

I worked in aviation for years. European (including UK) safety standards are rigourous. The work that goes into certification and maintenance is extremely thorough.

Those planes simply would not be cleared to fly if they were unsafe. Pilots and crew would not risk their lives if they were unsafe.

I bet the people saying they'd never fly on one never paid any attention to what aircraft they were booked on before. Historically just about every model of commercial plane has had fatal incidents somewhere in their history (with the notable exception of the A380). The chances of being involved in a crash on any of them are miniscule.

Fuck no

The US regulator doesn't seem too happy with Boeing safety.

Reuters today
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-faces-multiple-probes-after-mid-air-max-door-plug-blowout-2024-05-17/

Fortune

https://fortune.com/2024/05/14/boeing-criminal-charges-violating-deal-regulators/

No I wouldn't

If you love flying I am bemused how you have missed the multiple incidents involving this aircraft and the ongoing concerns with Boeing

For the sake of £120 I would avoid the 737 MAX. it would be worth it for the peace of mind to me

Thats got nothing to do with the safety of the planes though, which is OP's main concern.

Ryanair's safety record is excellent.

A colleague of my DH (an engineer) forced the plane to stop on the runway because he had an email promising him in writing it wouldn’t be that aircraft and it was only when he read the safety info in the back of the seat that he realised. Because he had proof, the plane had to turn around and drop him at the terminal.

Boeing safety is a shit show and planes are flying that are unsafe. You may not care, you may take off and land ok but at some point…

All this ‘I wouldn’t fly in any Boeing at the moment…’ rubbish - why? I fly Boeings daily for a living. In the last 25 years I’ve notched up well over 10000 hours in 5 different Boeing models, they are excellent aircraft. As others have alluded to, Airbus is not immune to catastrophic fuck ups - Air France disaster anyone? It doesn’t change the fact that air travel is generally safe enough that crashes and disasters make headline news. The normal state of affairs is for flights to take off and land without incident.

Of all the things to be worried about with flying atm, the type of aircraft is not the thing you need to be focussing on. (If you are at all worried about flying, try not to look too closely into the effects the wars in Ukraine and Israel are having on aircraft atm, from a professional pov that is far more concerning.)

No I wouldn't. In fact DH went away without me and it was conditional on him not being on a 737 Max

I don't have much confidence in the software fix and the more that comes out about Boeing practices the less confidence I feel in the company.

Would depend on the airline for me. I will not fly with Ryanair and support the bully Mr O'Leary.

I’d argue that most commercial aircraft only stay in the sky due to their software. If it’s written/tested properly and has the correct redundancy it’s all good. MCAS is only doing something similar to the protections that exist in Airbus aircraft which themselves have not been immune from AOA sensor/data issues. In theory MCAS shouldn’t intervene in normal flight conditions anyway, it’s only a failsafe.

There are 5,000 flights operating safely per day on a 737 Max. Go on Flight Radar and start clicking random planes on the map and you'll see quite a few. Ryanair have been operating them for a few years now with no issues.

I do understand the worry but logically speaking you will be absolutely fine. Your journey to the airport is still significantly more likely to kill you than the plane.

Go and enjoy your trip, don't let this hold you back.

It's a fundamentally unsafe airframe design. A software overlay is a pretty dodgy fix IMO.

They're falling apart because the business model at Boeing has been fucked up. If you're happy that all the qualified engineers are gone, parts are outsourced and assembled too fast and with minimal supervision - knock yourself out.

The idea that one accident makes them so super inspected that they become safe has been utterly belied by how many accidents and incidents there's been since the first two fatal ones.

I suggest you read it. It had nothing to do with “unbalanced wings”. The software fix was fine in theory but they failed to send data from both angle of attack sensors to MCAS. This lack of redundancy meant a faulty AOA sensor could cause the pitching down experienced by the accident aircraft. It was compounded by crews not being thoroughly trained on MCAS. The fix is still software, only now it’s been properly written and crews understand what to do with MCAS. I would be very surprised if we ever see another accident related to this system. If you’re worried about door plugs, don’t fly on a MAX-9 🤣

No