Would you fly on a 737 MAX plane?

I’d fly on it if the CEO of Boeing was sat next to me. I try and fly Airbus if I can.

Never read a bigger load of bullshit in my life.

I'm really happy for you that you fly Boeing planes, it comes across very clearly that it means alot to you - congratulations. It a great achievement you have every right to be proud of yourself.

I asked you if you had researched what the OP was discussing, because you still have not actually talked about the point in hand (which is not your reams of personal experience, but the ongoing federal investigations into Boeing)

Do you have any relevant comment about that?

read her post properly. He was promised in writing that he wouldn't have the craft, and when he was on the plane he saw the safety sheet and realised they HAD put him on the plane.

I imagine he stood up and made a fuss they take that quite seriously on planes.

A colleague of my DH (an engineer) forced the plane to stop on the runway because he had an email promising him in writing it wouldn’t be that aircraft and it was only when he read the safety info in the back of the seat that he realised. Because he had proof, the plane had to turn around and drop him at the terminal.

Boeing safety is a shit show and planes are flying that are unsafe. You may not care, you may take off and land ok but at some point…

@BlessedKali “If you don't understand whyx then do your research.” No, I genuinely don’t understand why there are at least 3 posts on the first page of this thread by posters stating that they would not fly on ANY Boeing. What about B737s? Are they dangerous? Which ones? Why? What about Boeing 777s? I currently am licensed to fly these and fly 3 different variants. What are your thoughts on a 200 with GE engines vs rollers at a hot and high airfield? What about 757s? Old workhorses, made before the current Boeing problems, but - well - old. But so are some of the triples. And the new ones, are they better because they are new? What about the battery issues on the Dreamliner? (I’m licensed to fly these too.) Are they an ongoing concern or have they fixed those? How many days safety and emergency procedure training on Boeing aircraft have you had this year? How many days in a simulator? How many hours on webinars with other pilots, being educated by experts? How many safety bulletins have you had in your inbox? How many hours spent airborne, over 5 different continents?

It is newsworthy atm that there are significant problems with Boeing management. I’m not blind, deaf or stupid. However, I also fly regularly with highly qualified pilots - my colleagues over the years have included CAA inspectors, air accident investigors, test pilots. I’ve worked with people who have been in incidents, accidents and crashes you’ll have seen on the news - I know how when any incident happens in aviation it is dissected to the nth degree and everyone learns from it. We talk about the issues affecting aviation on a daily basis. I am not aware of any issues affecting ALL Boeing aircraft at this moment in time that would warrant the statements made on the first page of this thread.

I do my research every time I go to work, and I learn from the people whose jobs it is to keep aircraft flying. Not from Wikipedia and the press (to give you a heads up, there is a big issue bothering pilots atm, and it has been vaguely reported in the press recently, but does not give the full story. The press is not reflective of what is actually going on.) BlessedKali what are your qualifications, and where are you getting your information from? While you are rustling up an answer, I’ll be getting yet another Boeing jet ready to take into the air.

@BlessedKali “If you don't understand whyx then do your research.” No, I genuinely don’t understand why there are at least 3 posts on the first page of this thread by posters stating that they would not fly on ANY Boeing. What about B737s? Are they dangerous? Which ones? Why? What about Boeing 777s? I currently am licensed to fly these and fly 3 different variants. What are your thoughts on a 200 with GE engines vs rollers at a hot and high airfield? What about 757s? Old workhorses, made before the current Boeing problems, but - well - old. But so are some of the triples. And the new ones, are they better because they are new? What about the battery issues on the Dreamliner? (I’m licensed to fly these too.) Are they an ongoing concern or have they fixed those? How many days safety and emergency procedure training on Boeing aircraft have you had this year? How many days in a simulator? How many hours on webinars with other pilots, being educated by experts? How many safety bulletins have you had in your inbox? How many hours spent airborne, over 5 different continents?

It is newsworthy atm that there are significant problems with Boeing management. I’m not blind, deaf or stupid. However, I also fly regularly with highly qualified pilots - my colleagues over the years have included CAA inspectors, air accident investigors, test pilots. I’ve worked with people who have been in incidents, accidents and crashes you’ll have seen on the news - I know how when any incident happens in aviation it is dissected to the nth degree and everyone learns from it. We talk about the issues affecting aviation on a daily basis. I am not aware of any issues affecting ALL Boeing aircraft at this moment in time that would warrant the statements made on the first page of this thread.

I do my research every time I go to work, and I learn from the people whose jobs it is to keep aircraft flying. Not from Wikipedia and the press (to give you a heads up, there is a big issue bothering pilots atm, and it has been vaguely reported in the press recently, but does not give the full story. The press is not reflective of what is actually going on.) BlessedKali what are your qualifications, and where are you getting your information from? While you are rustling up an answer, I’ll be getting yet another Boeing jet ready to take into the air.

Oh the irony in this post, when you think you know better than the professionals.

Of course I'm aware of the serious issues at Boeing. I'm also very much aware of the safety requirements in European aviation, and the fact that thousands of flights take off and land safely every single day on a 737 Max.

Tell me the last time a European (including UK) commercial airline had a fatal accident caused by an aircraft failure?

here is the second dead whistleblower https://www.theguardian.com/business/article/2024/may/02/second-boeing-whistleblower-dies

I read it properly. My post doesn’t contradict any of what her post says. Still think it’s bullshit that someone would disrupt the take off to the point that the plane had to go back to the gate.

Are you even aware of what's been happening regarding Boeing??

It's so mad when people pipe up without taking a simple two minutes to look at what the thread is regarding.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/68907597

read her post properly. He was promised in writing that he wouldn't have the craft, and when he was on the plane he saw the safety sheet and realised they HAD put him on the plane.

I imagine he stood up and made a fuss they take that quite seriously on planes.

If you don't understand whyx then do your research. A whistleblower was recently killed by Boeing just before he was due to give testimony on the lack of safety of one particular model. There is apparently a second whistle blower which the same happened to. There has been Boeing problem almost every month (doors flying off, part of the plane falling off when flying)

No, I absolutely wouldn't fly in one, I would rather pay more and fly in something else.

How ridiculous.

I worked in aviation for years. European (including UK) safety standards are rigourous. The work that goes into certification and maintenance is extremely thorough.

Those planes simply would not be cleared to fly if they were unsafe. Pilots and crew would not risk their lives if they were unsafe.

I bet the people saying they'd never fly on one never paid any attention to what aircraft they were booked on before. Historically just about every model of commercial plane has had fatal incidents somewhere in their history (with the notable exception of the A380). The chances of being involved in a crash on any of them are miniscule.