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AiBU to decline sun hol with relatives due to food timings?

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user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 14:29

Normally I go on hols wirh dh and 2 tween dcs in June. We go on a sun hol half board, with breakfast and dinner in a package. I always put on weight due to having breakfast, a small lunch and wine with dinner. We eat dinner at 7pm so not too late.

I am 5ft 3, 53 years old,weigh 11 stone. I follow a loose version of the 16:8 to maintain this, not eating til 12pm and eating 2 meals a day.

I don't mind putting up the weight as weather is fine over the summer and I exercise a lot with walks, jogging. It comes off over a month.

For the past few years, I have taken a second sun hol in Sep/Oct with 2 relatives one 40 years and one 70s, also half board.

I find it much harder to get the weight down after it due to winter and not able to exercise as much outside. I work fulltine and don't have loads of time for gyms.

The two relatives eat breakfast, then nothing til dinner at 8pm. I tried this and was very hungry by dinner. I suggested getting dinner early and one laughed like as if I am greedy. The correct thing for me would be to skip breakfast and eat a lunch. This would make the waiting for 8pm dinner more bearable.

I am considering not going this year, as it looks odd not eating the breakfast. If i do eat breakfast I can't fast til 8pm and eat lots of calories with 3 meals.

I don't eat out or go to pubs at home so the dinner and wine is very important to me.

Also when I go on hols with the relatives, one drinks very little. One will share wine with me and will drink more than her share. They go to pubs to get beer after but I don't love the wine in pubs so the wine with the meal is my only chance. I try ordering a different wine to them so as to get my small bottle to myself.

OP posts:
TwixOwl · 17/05/2024 23:16

It sounds like you're 12 years old. Very bizarre carry on.

canp · 17/05/2024 23:13

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2024 23:00

Fruit is going to shoot her blood sugar

are prople really still propagating this pseudo science shit? This is how people like the op get into the mess the op is in. 🙄

I got told it by a doctor who was helping me with menopause weight gain.

AquaFurball · 17/05/2024 23:11

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 16:10

My relatives do not comment but they eat small portions and little wine themselves.

Wine in pubs is rotten, I have tried. One relative is being 'good' im front of the other person, not ordering much wine but will drink what I order. It is done discreetly, pouring more whem I am at the buffet. Once she said she will keep the table while I choose my food. I said I will keep the table. They have drinks in pubs after. I really like the hotel wine and hate ordering a bottle and then only getting one or two glasses.

I started ordering my own small bottle which is 2.5 glasses. Relatives ordered one of these between 2.

I would put up with this if I wasn't getting a holiday otherwise as you can't get everything perfect.

2.5 glasses of wine on 16:8 is more than double what is recommended. For someone who seems so rigid about not eating breakfast but needing the small bottle of wine, you appear to have bigger issues than inflexibility with intermittent fasting. If you are consuming alcohol within your window and going to sleep less than 4 hours later, you might as well eat the breakfast as the alcohol won't be proceseed will prevent you losing weight more than eating a decent breakfast and light lunch and expanding your window to 12:12 for a week will.
Only eating two meals in your window isn't healthy either and if you are starving between them that is because you are forcing your body back into fasting when it's not supposed to be. You should be eating every 3 to 4 hours in your eating window of 8 hours, it takes some getting used to but you should never be starving on intermittent fasting. Leaving 6 hours between meals defeats the purpose of 16 hours fasting.

TropicalRain · 17/05/2024 23:10

OP, you work full time and have a family to care for. Your holidays are for your enjoyment and comfort. Skip the holiday if it isn't enjoyable. It doesn't matter why it isn't enjoyable, and whether you or your relatives should eat 1 or 10 meals a day at certain times or whatever. It is irrelevant what anyone thinks about your regime, you know you and you know what works best. You sound like you work hard and put in lots of effort generally, you owe yourself to at least be able to relax and enjoy yourself on a holiday.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2024 23:00

Fruit is going to shoot her blood sugar

are prople really still propagating this pseudo science shit? This is how people like the op get into the mess the op is in. 🙄

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2024 22:59

OP your posts are very confusingly conflicted. Eg it’s expensive to drink out v wine in pubs is crap v I never drink at home v I only drink at home.

whatever the truth of the matter is you have very strangely rigid eating, drinking and exercise rules that you cannot flex or relax on holiday. Your holiday companions sound equally rigid. It sounds utterly joyless.

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 22:55

We live rurally. We have very strict drink driving laws, not in the UK. It would cost lots to go out for dinner and get a taxi home.

Generally, I go for a nice lunch every few weeks. I drink wine at the weekends at home. It is a real treat to be able to have wine with dinner at a restaurant.

We live in a high cost country. Even to get a glass of wine is ££££.

OP posts:
canp · 17/05/2024 22:54

Maddy70 · 17/05/2024 14:39

Have fruit for breakfast
Get a sandwich for lunch
Proper dinner

Really not seeing the issue

That isn’t suitable for 16:8

Fruit is going to shoot her blood sugar. She needs protein (egg probably), having fasted for 16 hours since the previous night’s dinner.

the issue is struggling with hormonal weight gain. It’s horrible, believe me.

Imobsessedwithsuccesion · 17/05/2024 22:48

I'm not getting why OP can't eat out or have a wine when she's not on holiday?

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/05/2024 22:33

That is my conclusion, @pootlin

pootlin · 17/05/2024 22:30

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/05/2024 22:28

I think she sounds diligent and dedicated to good health.

It's not ok to put on weight when one already is battling weight-related medical conditions.

I agree.

I’m guessing everyone berating OP has poor health.

It makes them feel worse to see OP so disciplined so they are trying to bring her down as well.

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/05/2024 22:29

AskingAdviceToday · 17/05/2024 21:05

Why are none of you eating three meals a day? Don't you all get very hungry!

I haven't eaten three meals in any one day in 25 years. It's not uncommon.

5YearsLeft · 17/05/2024 22:29

StaunchMomma · 17/05/2024 21:37

What's a sun hol? Am I being thick?

It all sounds like a lot of stress over nothing, really. You sound awfully controlling around food and drink, too. Can yu not just relax with all of the rules while away? Would it really hurt to have 3 decent sized meals a day for a week?

It’s a “sunny holiday” in a warm location, often at an all-inclusive resort. I put a much longer answer for someone about six comments above your question.

BettyBardMacDonald · 17/05/2024 22:28

Soontobe60 · 17/05/2024 22:11

You sound unhealthily obsessed about eating times and weight. It’s ok to eat when you want, it’s ok to put some weight on.

I think she sounds diligent and dedicated to good health.

It's not ok to put on weight when one already is battling weight-related medical conditions.

Backtothepalmtrees · 17/05/2024 22:19

Christ almighty the words hol and hols are just 😱😱😱no idea why but they really are irritating !

Soontobe60 · 17/05/2024 22:12

Redpaisely · 17/05/2024 21:28

Food is not controlling her life. It works better for her to skip breakfast and then have lunch and dinner, while her relatives want to eat breakfast and nothing else till late dinner.
She is contemplating not going on holidays with these relatives.
At 53, many people cannot eat like they did in their 20s.

It absolutely IS controlling her life.

Soontobe60 · 17/05/2024 22:11

You sound unhealthily obsessed about eating times and weight. It’s ok to eat when you want, it’s ok to put some weight on.

AGoingConcern · 17/05/2024 22:08

Every bit of this post and the follow-ups made me sad, from the food rigidity to your relatives sneering about other people’s eating habits & bodies.

If you don’t want to go on holiday with these relatives, don’t go on holiday. It honestly doesn’t sound like you do. But if you want to go, find a meal schedule you can tolerate for a few days and tell them theirs just doesn’t work for you.

Happilyobtuse · 17/05/2024 22:07

I think you are making it all unnecessarily complicated! I am 5ft 6” and weigh 10.3 stone. I used to weigh 11 stone in sept last year. I am consistently losing weight as my target is 9.5 stone.

The key to losing weight and keeping it off is portion control and keeping your metabolism up. So have 2 eggs for breakfast ideally with mushrooms, tomatoes any other veg, no toast. Drink black coffee, no sugar or just water. Walk for 15 mins, about 30 mins after your meal. This helps with keeping your blood sugars stable. Keep active. At lunch grilled fish/chicken and lots of salad. Drink lots of water and stay hydrated. Again after 30 mins walk for atleast 15 mins. Then have a small fruit if you are hungry in the evening like some berries or an apple. Drink more water. At dinner time, eat protein and veg and small measured qty of carbs (Ideally the equivalent of half cup). You can eat one scoop of ice cream and wine at dinner but maybe restrict qty to 2 glasses. Walk again 30 mins post dinner. You will be less deprived and will actually lose weight. Thank me later! Most important stick to portion size for carbs.

FriendofDorothy · 17/05/2024 22:07

Bloody hell.
You sound high maintenance and not a lot of fun.
Going on on holiday should be pleasurable but not a chore.

StaunchMomma · 17/05/2024 21:37

What's a sun hol? Am I being thick?

It all sounds like a lot of stress over nothing, really. You sound awfully controlling around food and drink, too. Can yu not just relax with all of the rules while away? Would it really hurt to have 3 decent sized meals a day for a week?

Redpaisely · 17/05/2024 21:34

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 15:26

Relatives are slimmer than me and like getting dressed up for dinner taking photos etc. They also may point out if some random person is fat.

I have no problems gping on a holiday in summer as evenings are fine and I can exercise off the weight gain.

I always used to go on 4 day city breaks could eat what I wanted and weight came off easily after 4 days of hols.

I know that I should not care about eating etc but I am already 11 stone and struggle to maintain this. I take size 16 in tops, big breasts, so I don't want to increase this.

I lnow I should cut out wine for the hols but I rarely go out at home and wine is a lovely treat.

They comment on overweight people, that's not nice. Plus you think you will look greedy if you order more wine, what's the point of travelling with such relatives? Vacations should be fun.

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 21:33

Mummyslittlegiraffe
Every other day exercising is not enough for me. I walk 20k steps each day on hols. When I am at home I jog every other day for 30mins and walk for an hour every other day while being as active as I can around fulltime work.

If I exercised every other day I would pile weight on.

I also fill up with salads, fish and have one scoop of ice cream on hols. I know I should cut out the 2 or 3 glasses of wine a night on hols.

OP posts:
ILoveYouItsRuiningMyLife · 17/05/2024 21:28

My god, don’t go. It sounds so utterly joyless in every respect.

Redpaisely · 17/05/2024 21:28

SpringLobelia · 17/05/2024 15:00

This.

Food is not controlling her life. It works better for her to skip breakfast and then have lunch and dinner, while her relatives want to eat breakfast and nothing else till late dinner.
She is contemplating not going on holidays with these relatives.
At 53, many people cannot eat like they did in their 20s.