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AiBU to decline sun hol with relatives due to food timings?

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user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 14:29

Normally I go on hols wirh dh and 2 tween dcs in June. We go on a sun hol half board, with breakfast and dinner in a package. I always put on weight due to having breakfast, a small lunch and wine with dinner. We eat dinner at 7pm so not too late.

I am 5ft 3, 53 years old,weigh 11 stone. I follow a loose version of the 16:8 to maintain this, not eating til 12pm and eating 2 meals a day.

I don't mind putting up the weight as weather is fine over the summer and I exercise a lot with walks, jogging. It comes off over a month.

For the past few years, I have taken a second sun hol in Sep/Oct with 2 relatives one 40 years and one 70s, also half board.

I find it much harder to get the weight down after it due to winter and not able to exercise as much outside. I work fulltine and don't have loads of time for gyms.

The two relatives eat breakfast, then nothing til dinner at 8pm. I tried this and was very hungry by dinner. I suggested getting dinner early and one laughed like as if I am greedy. The correct thing for me would be to skip breakfast and eat a lunch. This would make the waiting for 8pm dinner more bearable.

I am considering not going this year, as it looks odd not eating the breakfast. If i do eat breakfast I can't fast til 8pm and eat lots of calories with 3 meals.

I don't eat out or go to pubs at home so the dinner and wine is very important to me.

Also when I go on hols with the relatives, one drinks very little. One will share wine with me and will drink more than her share. They go to pubs to get beer after but I don't love the wine in pubs so the wine with the meal is my only chance. I try ordering a different wine to them so as to get my small bottle to myself.

OP posts:
Revelatio · 17/05/2024 16:18

I have found that often pubs have a vast selection of wines. Where are you going to? If it’s an old man type pub, then yes, they tend to have a limited selection, but gastro pubs have loads.

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 16:16

FrogsWormsandCaterpillars

I know that hence why I am trying not to put up more. I was heavy as a child and teen.

A lot of other women my age are able to keep weight down. I just have to put in more work.

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liveforsummer · 17/05/2024 16:15

I think because most people don’t go to pubs to drink wine. So the selection is often limited and sometimes the bottles are opened and left sitting.

Not sure when you last went in a pub but a huge amount of wine drinkers buying both by bottle or glass. Open bottles never hang around in a fridge long but they have air expelling tops so are good for a few days once opened anyway. Unless you're talking a local bowling club etc. a pub in a holiday resort will absolutely have a wide range of wines

quizzys · 17/05/2024 16:15

Right,

Do you want to go or not? If not don't go. If you feel obligated for family reasons or something, then refuse to share a room with them. What grown woman would share with two others and be cramped, to save money when you say that's not an issue? Explain please..... So, you have your own room and can skip breakfast and join them for dinner as you like to do.

You can even escape while they're having breakfast and go off on your own somewhere. That's what I would do if I wanted to be apart and away from the food intake monitoring going on.

I know what you mean about timings on the 16/8, I use that myself, but honestly - on holiday I forget about it and get back into the rhythm again when home. You won't gain that much, just watch your portions and keep drinking the vino.

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 16:14

If I asked them to eat earlier, they would consider it but would make a big deal. We need to eat as user1471 is hungry and I would be the cause of it.

They told me dinner was served later in one place 7.30 on. Dinner was served at 6pm on. I like to go out walking after dinner and also take my time with dinner.

OP posts:
FrogsWormsandCaterpillars · 17/05/2024 16:13

SpringLobelia · 17/05/2024 15:39

Sweetheart. I also have hyper critical relatives so I get this to a point. I have literally not attended a funeral of one of my aunts because I knew others there would comment on my weight.

If it is this bad then don't go on holiday with them. Go on a different holiday. One that does not stress you out.

By the way 11 stone is not fat. Being generous of boobage is not fat. Even if you were fat this is not a moral failing.

Oh the things we put ourselves through. ❤

I’m not going to use the word fat but 11st at 5ft3 is overweight, I’m the same height.

turkeymuffin · 17/05/2024 16:11

sexnotgenders · 17/05/2024 14:44

If your diet/food choices are controlling your life to the point you can't go on a holiday, then I think you need to reconsider your approach. Food shouldn't control your life

This 100%

LifeExperience · 17/05/2024 16:11

Go and eat what you want, when you want. You feel pressured because you're giving your travel mates too much power.

FrogsWormsandCaterpillars · 17/05/2024 16:11

I would get some help for your disordered eating. Weight loss is 80% diet and 20% exercise. Calorie counting is far easier and gives you much more freedom.

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 16:10

My relatives do not comment but they eat small portions and little wine themselves.

Wine in pubs is rotten, I have tried. One relative is being 'good' im front of the other person, not ordering much wine but will drink what I order. It is done discreetly, pouring more whem I am at the buffet. Once she said she will keep the table while I choose my food. I said I will keep the table. They have drinks in pubs after. I really like the hotel wine and hate ordering a bottle and then only getting one or two glasses.

I started ordering my own small bottle which is 2.5 glasses. Relatives ordered one of these between 2.

I would put up with this if I wasn't getting a holiday otherwise as you can't get everything perfect.

OP posts:
AlltheFs · 17/05/2024 16:09

AliceOlive · 17/05/2024 15:52

I think because most people don’t go to pubs to drink wine. So the selection is often limited and sometimes the bottles are opened and left sitting.

Are you kidding? That was true in the 80’s, most definitely not the case now. Wine is a huge seller in the majority of pubs.
https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/11/drinking-habits-shift-as-uk-changes-to-wine-from-beer/

Drinking habits shift as UK changes from beer to wine

The latest set of data from the World Health Organization (WHO) has shown that the UK's love of beer has halved while wine has been on an upward trend for decades.

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/11/drinking-habits-shift-as-uk-changes-to-wine-from-beer/

DelphiniumBlue · 17/05/2024 16:09

Who are these people to you? Your mother and sister?
You don't have to fall into the "child" mode when you are with them, you are an adult woman. The sky won't fall in if you don't have breakfast with them, or if you choose to have a solo lunch.
But you could be more flexible.. you don't have to follow 16:8 while on holiday. You could just be a bit careful ( although who wants to do that on holiday, part of the pleasure is trying different food)or you could just accept that you might put on a bit of weight - it won't be a lot over a week or less.
You could have breakfast as late as possible, and then something light for lunch, and then dinner . If it is a sun holiday and you are by the sea, have some fish for lunch.
You can be a bit more forceful about the timing of dinner if you really think it's going to make that much of a difference, but I wouldn't want to be eating dinner at 7 on holiday, it would be way too early. So I might compromise some of the time.
The thing is, you can make it work if you want to, and if you relatives want to. Maybe you should have a frank discussion with them, but if you can't be a bit more flexible, maybe you'd be better off not going. You can't really tell them that it's your way all the way or you're not going.

SherlockHomies · 17/05/2024 16:03

Goodness, it's only food OP, not a course of life saving medical treatment!

Eat what you want and eat when you want and stop worrying about what others think or say.

The best thing about being an adult is the autonomy it brings.

SoftPuppyBlanket · 17/05/2024 15:59

I weigh a lot more* *than 11 st (11st would be my target weight at weight watchers!) and any relative that nit picked so much about what I ate and drank on holiday would swiftly be told to fuck right off!!!
Eat what you want, drink what you want, if you gain a few pounds so be it - its a holiday, not a test of endurance.

Revelatio · 17/05/2024 15:58

It sounds like you just don’t like them. Why go on holiday with people you don’t like?

Wishimaywishimight · 17/05/2024 15:57

Honestly, it's bonkers not to go on holiday (presuming you enjoy holidays and care about these people) because of mealtimes - surely you can see how daft it is to allow food to affect your life this much?

IvyGrippedtheSteps · 17/05/2024 15:54

AliceOlive · 17/05/2024 15:50

All of this does not sound like a holiday.

Is anything about it nice?

Yes, this sounds more like a punishment than a holiday? Do you even want to go?

AliceOlive · 17/05/2024 15:53

MermaidEyes · 17/05/2024 15:52

I don't think this is so much about food and more about the fact you don't really like these people so much and don't want to go on holiday with them. A holiday should be something to look forward to, not all this angst.

I don’t like them either, having read that they mentions other people’s weight, take up too much space and have firm ideas about what and when everyone else should be eating.

AliceOlive · 17/05/2024 15:52

liveforsummer · 17/05/2024 15:49

Just skip breakfast and have lunch - no idea why you think this wouldn't be strange. Explain to relatives you normally do it this way and prefer it. They obviously aren't worried about sticking to their own slightly unusual schedule so why are you?! Also how can you dislike all wine in all pubs. It will be different everywhere!

I think because most people don’t go to pubs to drink wine. So the selection is often limited and sometimes the bottles are opened and left sitting.

MermaidEyes · 17/05/2024 15:52

I don't think this is so much about food and more about the fact you don't really like these people so much and don't want to go on holiday with them. A holiday should be something to look forward to, not all this angst.

WeDreamInPhosphoresence · 17/05/2024 15:51

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 15:33

I already walk a lot on hols, about 15k to 20k steps a day, trying to distract myself from the hunger. I like to sit out but the hunger feels worse when sitting out.

When I hol with dh I eat a sandwich at lunch, and an earlier dinner. I sit out more as I am not continually hungry.

With the 16:8 I can fast overnight as I am asleep. Then the last is broken by an early lunch and normal time dinner. The earlt breakfast makes me starving at 2pm even though i have eggs, fruit, yoghurt.

Look, I weigh 11 stone as well but you sound decidedly obsessive about your weight.

Traipsing the streets to stave off your hunger is not normal. It seems you have bigger problems than whether to go on this holiday or not tbh.

AliceOlive · 17/05/2024 15:50

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 15:37

The whole thing is in a plan so I can't just get dinner. Also we all share a room to keep costs down. The space is tight in the room and they have possessions in the wardrobe, lots of bottles in the bathroom. I had to laugh the last time and say I have nowhere to put my toothbrush and I will have to leave clothes in my case. They cleared a (small) space.

All of this does not sound like a holiday.

Is anything about it nice?

liveforsummer · 17/05/2024 15:49

Just skip breakfast and have lunch - no idea why you think this wouldn't be strange. Explain to relatives you normally do it this way and prefer it. They obviously aren't worried about sticking to their own slightly unusual schedule so why are you?! Also how can you dislike all wine in all pubs. It will be different everywhere!

AliceOlive · 17/05/2024 15:48

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 14:45

My relatives would say the breakfast is paid for, so wasteful not to eat this. I find that if I eat early then I am hungry for all meals. Eating sparingly for 3 meals doesn't work for me.

Also I can't order more wine as it will look greedy and relatives will only order a small amount trying to appear 'good'. The younger person will drink a lot if I have the name of ordering it. Cost not an issue.

Hols with dh, we eat and drink and no notice taken as we have the attitude, we work hard all year so make the most of the week away.

They sound awful.

I am in the minority vote. I’d not enjoy a holiday where I’m held to someone else’s eating and drinking habits. Also, pub wine is awful in many places.

jannier · 17/05/2024 15:44

user1471554720 · 17/05/2024 15:26

Relatives are slimmer than me and like getting dressed up for dinner taking photos etc. They also may point out if some random person is fat.

I have no problems gping on a holiday in summer as evenings are fine and I can exercise off the weight gain.

I always used to go on 4 day city breaks could eat what I wanted and weight came off easily after 4 days of hols.

I know that I should not care about eating etc but I am already 11 stone and struggle to maintain this. I take size 16 in tops, big breasts, so I don't want to increase this.

I lnow I should cut out wine for the hols but I rarely go out at home and wine is a lovely treat.

Your boobs are not going to shrink they are what they are....I have 12 bottom and 18 top boobs grow every year I weigh less than when I got married but my dress wouldn't fit half my boob my surgeon (had cancer) said that they accounted for 2 stone of my weight. I was desperately trying to lose weight when I didn't need to

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