To think that men get a ridiculously bad rap on this site?

I mean, just because you ‘dislike the negativity’ doesn’t mean others have to stop. Just scroll on by.
Also, ‘Unhelpful’ to whom?

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The old saying, if all you do is meet arseholes then you are the arsehole, rings true for a lot of the misandrist brigade on here.

Women who complain that all men are bastards are dysfunctional individuals who are probably just as awful as the men they claim to meet.

THIS!!"

Yeah but who is actually saying all men are bastards on MN? I suspect nobody or very very few.

Same rationale as your 'defending' all men because a few are abusive.

It is mainly Women who are unhappy in relationships who post here so obviously a biased sample. This is well known and has all been gone through before.

There is also a lot of examples of women hating on women.

The fact that. It's anonymous means that people can be a lot more cutting.

How many women are killed each week by men in the U.K.?

Bad rap.

What is it about all these 'poor men' threads at the moment?

It is really depressing to read news story after news story reporting of yet another woman being beaten, raped, murdered or any combination of the 3.

It really is depressing to read news story after news story of men who have committed beatings, rapes, murders (or any combination of the 3) against women being let out early from prison, being given a short sentence, not jailed at all, or not even brought to court.

It really is depressing to read MRA/NAMALT BS on this site, complaining about this site and how adept we are pointing out how shit/criminal many mens’ behaviour is

Oh wait, I think the word I was looking for that last paragraph isn’t ‘depressing’ but ‘hilarious’

No, we definitely should address it. I think it's really important that we examine the issue of male violence and sexual aggression and look at the root causes.
I just really dislike the general negativity towards all men. So many posts on Mumsnet talk about men as a whole in a really unpleasant way. I don't think it's helpful.

Its a reasonable point. Women heavily invested in defending and protecting men are likely to have encountered a fair amount of superficial male approval. An obvious high regard for males, excusing of their bad behaviour, joining in with any negativity they display towards other women is going to bring you more positive interactions with men than women with a higher bar who challenge them or refuse to play along.

So if the vast majority aren’t doing it, we shouldn’t discuss the ones that are?
No thank you.

So a man abusing a women isn’t nuanced enough for you? Let’s bare in mind the woman’s behaviour is partly to blame?

Do you think the posts describing bad behaviour from men are made up then OP? Or do you think said bad behaviour should just be glossed over and ignored?

As for the large number of threads about awful men it’s because people don’t start threads about normal functional relationships.

I met plenty so I guess it evens out .

I agree with you. It's quite depressing. Maybe I've been lucky but most of the men I've had to deal with in life (family, friends, colleagues etc) have all been great.
These threads always descend in to people saying "men are responsible for 97% of rapes and sexual and violent crimes" etc. Yes we all know know that! But the vast majority of men are not going around raping people or violently attacking people.

Never ever discussed on here the women who find male aggression attractive. Surely they reinforce negative male behaviour- Toxic attraction.

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Quite

I've perhaps seen a few threads with such a title or, occasionally within a thread a post declaring similar.

But according to some on this thread it's literally every other thread

When you are talking sexual offenses no. When you are talking murder and the most violent crimes.also no.

Posters explaining why men might behave as they do, yes obviously there are societal reasons and pressures which influence this, there are reasons woman are less likely to.
Where is the conversation from men about what will help address it, and where is the challenge from the men who function well about what is seen as a cultural norm.
Instead it's -not all men, some woman are just as bad, this one woman did this too.

The majority of men are not rapists or murderers but the majority of rapists and murderers are men.

Love men, have great men around me, love my son, husband,.Father, brother, cousins, nephew, male friends.

I have still been groped by men -.thankfully nothing worse - it is possible to love men but also recognise what their proclivities are. Just like females will have their own proclivities for certain negative behaviours.

96% of defendants in dv Court proceedings are male too (ONS)

This

Pull the other one OP, it has bells on.

Don’t be citing pesky facts like this. Those misogynistic meanies at the BBC should hand their heads.

Exactly. Why do some people hate Mumsnet so much? Just don’t come on if you find it so upsetting.
The entire rest of the internet is still available to you.
But no, you’d rather spend your time crusading to shut women up.

I don't think I have ever read on MN that all men are bastards.

I mean, I've read an awful of codswallop (like on this thread) but not that all men are bastards.