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Should sports day be optional?

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Nothinglefttosaynow · 17/05/2024 08:54

I remember dreading sports day as a child, I was slow & awkward and always near the end if not last. It was public embarrassment for me & I dreaded it. My nephew has sports day next week & is already worrying about it. He is fit and healthy but not a fast runner & has come last for the past 3 years. I absolutely agree with kids taking part in sport at school & at home, but I wonder if forcing kids who clearly don't enjoy it to participate in front of a crowd is fair.

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MissL21 · 21/05/2024 09:03

As someone who works in a school and previously organised sports day, no, I don't think it should be optional, where would we draw the line on what we cant and cant opt in and out of?! However, I think the activities that are run are important. Ours are a carousel of inclusive team activities in their houses so it's a group effort (which we also do as part of PE lessons). There are also races at the end but if I child desperately didn't want to take part, they would never be forced. Also, we have run SD without parents rhe last couple of years and have to say it was much smoother all round.
All children have their own strengths and should be given that chance to shine, whether that be sports, maths, spellings etc. We have a celebration assembly every week where these achievements are recognised across the school.

Scottsy200 · 21/05/2024 08:17

No it shouldn’t be optional, children need to learn that sometimes they aren’t the best at things and it’s ok the world isn’t going to end, we really need to stop pandering to them

MrsB74 · 21/05/2024 08:12

ilovesooty · 17/05/2024 09:01

When I taught it was very rare to have parents attending. When did this become the norm? No I don't think that children should be compelled to participate in front of crowds if they struggle physically or emotionally but some degree of competition in itself isn't necessarily damaging.

I’m 50 and my parents always came. I loved going to my children’s sports days as well and wish I still could (secondary school doesn’t allow spectators). It’s not a big event as so many will not do it!

I don’t think you have to do the sprint race now? They tend to have a variety of events that are a bit less full on.

I was good at sprinting so loved it (despite the pressure to perform), but can see where you are coming from. I’m not sure being allowed to opt out is the right approach; so many girls seem to opt out of PE completely which is not good for them in the long run. We are getting less and less healthy as a nation and that starts in childhood. Even some sporty girls won’t take part anymore as it’s not seen as cool! Not sure what the answer is though.

Reasontoreason · 21/05/2024 07:47

Some children are not good In maths for example. They can't opt out of it, Can't out opt out of something just because you are not good at it.

jasminocereusbritannicus · 21/05/2024 07:28

I hated sports day when I was a kid.

I dislike it even more as a teaching assistant!
Basically, the parents /families attending make it a hell on earth.
I wish sports day was ‘behind closed doors’.
Parents are either competitive and moan about decisions/results. Or they interfere when we are trying to keep groups of children under control, or insist younger siblings be allowed to go and sit with them (!) or want to give them snacks/ juice/ hugs /cuddles and anything else which causes disruption. Basically, just being there upsets the kids. It’s more trouble than it’s worth in my opinion!🫤

ASundayWellSpent · 20/05/2024 10:33

At our school there are no spectators and at any given time 8 different events are being held so realistically the only people aware of the result are those in your group at the time when you are competing.

I can see both sides as a parent of two children, one who wins every race and one who is last in every race. I try to frame it as its only one day a year and there are many other things that they shine at such as year writing competitions, photography competitions, drama performances etc.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 20/05/2024 10:20

I don’t know. Gdcs enjoy it, but I do remember last time feeling so sorry for the little boy who was crying as he came in last - again. 😰

frankentall · 20/05/2024 10:16

Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 18/05/2024 19:14

I bet he opts out of things as ab adult rather than facing them.

What a shitty pointless (and as it turns out incorrect) response.

bryceQ · 19/05/2024 19:06

I think it should be optional. I really enjoyed athletics, but I could see how many kids despised it and it was embarrassing for them.

ThinkingOfMe · 19/05/2024 18:35

Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 18/05/2024 19:14

I bet he opts out of things as ab adult rather than facing them.

You bet wrong then. He’s an adult at uni doing a highly competitive degree, works in the holidays, goes to the gym, plays on a football team and volunteers for a mental health charity. He throws himself into everything he goes.

bluecomputerscreen · 18/05/2024 19:56

imo sports days should not be optional but it should cater for all abilities and should be fun

and also shouldn't necessarily involve parents watching.

Nothinglefttosaynow · 18/05/2024 19:45

Wow a lot of responses! I stand by my belief that children should be allowed to participate only if they want to. My own child is in a competitive sport and so is used to winning/losing in front of spectators but sports day is totally different, especially for the races where some children are really slow and repeatedly last & you can see how embarrassed they are. I think times are changing and we luckily are noticing that shaming children does infact cause them harm. Look how many people here remember coming last at their own sports days in childhood, despite successful careers etc. The reality is sports days will carry on, and I will cheerfully encourage both my nephew and my child to participate and that it doesn't really matter if they don't win, but I still feel sorry for them knowing they are really worried about it & feeling embarrassed when they inevitably don't do well. We always just laugh it off & are lucky that they are resilient, but can I honestly say they get any benefit from it? No. They don't.

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taxguru · 18/05/2024 19:35

Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 18/05/2024 19:14

I bet he opts out of things as ab adult rather than facing them.

What a load of crap. I "opted out" a lot at school, playing truant, tricking parents into thinking I was ill, etc to avoid things like school sports and some other events. That was because I was being horrendously bullied. I could tolerate "normal" formal lessons, particularly with strong teachers, but would be bullied (not just name calling but physical abuse, theft of property etc) whenever things were informal or with weak teachers.

I've not opted out of anything as an adult, I've been involved in amateur dramatics, lots of clubs & societies (included being a committee member, treasurer, secretary, chairman, spokesperson etc)., ran a local "save the library" campaign, given presentations to large numbers of people, ran training courses, taught at our local college of FE, successfully launched my own business including marketing events, etc.

Funny how you're less likely to be spat at, have fag ends burned on your arms, had your books stolen or pissed on, etc., outside the school environment!

I don't think people like you know just what it can be like in schools when you're the target of the humiliation and abuse. I was suicidal at school, but absolutely bloomed once I managed to escape the hell hole and the bullies.

Crepester · 18/05/2024 19:28

EmilyTjP · 18/05/2024 17:39

No, it should not be optional. From the sounds on everyone on this thread, everyone would opt out! I presume most of you are ND too. It’s meant to be fun. I was crap at sport but that’s why there’s silly races like egg and spoon and the sack race.

From working in schools I think children have a more fun and positive outlook so actually even a lot of the less sporty kids would opt in. It’s a minority that are so bothered by it they’d opt out I feel…Unless they were influenced by parents perhaps.

And btw I’m ND and loved sports day!

SouthLondonMum22 · 18/05/2024 19:17

EmilyTjP · 18/05/2024 17:39

No, it should not be optional. From the sounds on everyone on this thread, everyone would opt out! I presume most of you are ND too. It’s meant to be fun. I was crap at sport but that’s why there’s silly races like egg and spoon and the sack race.

Except for many children, it isn’t fun. and silly races don’t make a difference.

Gruffallowhydidntyouknow · 18/05/2024 19:14

ThinkingOfMe · 17/05/2024 12:27

This old crap. Sports day isn’t the only chance to build resilience you know.

My daughter faced things every day that she didn’t like. Attending sports day once a year wouldn’t have made any difference to her level of resilience.

My son occasionally asked for a day off school to avoid some random, pointless drama lesson. It hasn’t impacted his resilience.

I bet he opts out of things as ab adult rather than facing them.

EmilyTjP · 18/05/2024 17:39

No, it should not be optional. From the sounds on everyone on this thread, everyone would opt out! I presume most of you are ND too. It’s meant to be fun. I was crap at sport but that’s why there’s silly races like egg and spoon and the sack race.

WoshPank · 18/05/2024 17:36

WittiestUsernameEver · 18/05/2024 17:24

Because... funnily enough, if enough people talk about it, there's likely to be teachers involved who could influence/make decisions about how to run sports day differently, whilst including the whole school without shame or forced competition for then minority if children who would and are adversely affected.

Out of a school of 400, they could have 10% helper positions or something (laying out the hula hoops, counting laps, manning water stations, helping add up scores, fetching the bean bags after they've been thrown far, keeping a register of their team mates in the day, marking them in for events, coming up with a team chant before hand and having them all sing it to support their team mates) ... Loads of things really.

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People need to do much better at setting out what they actually mean, then. If what's actually being advocated is a changed sports day, some of the posts simply saying bullying shouldn't happen are doing a poor job of articulating that.

ConfusedBear · 18/05/2024 17:29

IvyIvyIvy · 17/05/2024 20:41

Sports days have so many benefits:

  1. It teaches children to have a growth mindset as they'll see how much they improve with a bit of effort
  2. It teaches them how to be a good winner and loser...and not to cheat. Children should learn how to be kind, good sportsmen and cheer on their peers.
  3. It tells them that it's best not to live in a comfort bubble. They may even surprise themselves. This will help.them in other areas of life such as academics
  4. It gets kids away from screens. Exercise gets overweight kids moving. It improves mental health. Failure in front of peers is good motivation to train and improve.
  5. Sometimes a job involves things you don't enjoy but you need to do to for the greater good or long term plans. Best to harness that lesson early so you don't wimp out of that presentation to the CEO when it really counts!
  6. Childhood is about learning harsh lessons in a safe and fun environment. Better then than later in life. It gets much harder. I see lots of gen X in the workplace with so much fear as they haven't learnt to embrace failure.
  7. Compulsory sports is a big thing in the independent school system. State parents should want their kids to have the same advantages. It's that grit that gets kids good universities and good jobs.
  8. It encourages team building and teamwork skills.

Just on point 7. More than having a good job or attending a good university I want my child to be a good person. The attitude that arbitrary thing X is compulsory so everyone must do it isn't one I would encourage him to have. And I wouldn't view compulsory sport, regardless of interest, skill or enjoyment to be at all a positive or advantageous thing.

Before I get jumped on I know that most people who have attended independent school are perfectly nice individuals. It's more that I don't feel compulsory sport is intrinsic to being a good person. I get that some people really like sport and that other people don't find it too bad, but I can also see that there are many people who gain no benefit from being made to participate in sport and risk physical and mental harm if forced to participate.

WittiestUsernameEver · 18/05/2024 17:25

WoshPank · 18/05/2024 14:34

Why do people keep saying what they think should and shouldn't happen, as though that affects what actually does happen? All very well to say nobody should be embarrassed, have the piss taken out of them etc. But they still do. And some of those kids will also be the ones who struggle academically too.

Yes, but the weaker mathematics students aren't then forced to publicly do sums on the stage it anything like that.

WittiestUsernameEver · 18/05/2024 17:24

WoshPank · 18/05/2024 14:34

Why do people keep saying what they think should and shouldn't happen, as though that affects what actually does happen? All very well to say nobody should be embarrassed, have the piss taken out of them etc. But they still do. And some of those kids will also be the ones who struggle academically too.

Because... funnily enough, if enough people talk about it, there's likely to be teachers involved who could influence/make decisions about how to run sports day differently, whilst including the whole school without shame or forced competition for then minority if children who would and are adversely affected.

Out of a school of 400, they could have 10% helper positions or something (laying out the hula hoops, counting laps, manning water stations, helping add up scores, fetching the bean bags after they've been thrown far, keeping a register of their team mates in the day, marking them in for events, coming up with a team chant before hand and having them all sing it to support their team mates) ... Loads of things really.

WoshPank · 18/05/2024 14:34

Why do people keep saying what they think should and shouldn't happen, as though that affects what actually does happen? All very well to say nobody should be embarrassed, have the piss taken out of them etc. But they still do. And some of those kids will also be the ones who struggle academically too.

Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 18/05/2024 13:16

Halloumidays · 17/05/2024 21:10

For some kids who struggle academically it’s the only thing they are good at. Let them have their moment! If my daughter was judged on her sports performance she’d be top of the class, as it is she’s at the bottom every single day except for one. So she feels like some of your kids do on sports day every single day bar one!
Please think about others outside your child and their experience, and maybe explain, as we do that for some kids this is one of the few things that makes them feel ok about themselves.

Let them have their moment let the kids who don’t run go and cheer them on and support them let e dry one enjoy the day. They don’t need to be humiliated. It shouldn’t be a case of take part and be embarrassed or skive off kids should be able to enjoy being there supporting their friends.

Rewis · 17/05/2024 23:08

Meadowfinch · 17/05/2024 22:07

@Rewis With respect, that's a very adult and naive view.

For the kids, it doesn't matter what the activities are. There will be winners and losers, and children humiliated in front of an audience.

There is no justification for it.

I just said what we did in school. I didn't really present an opinion. However, I'm pretty sure regular PE classes were a lot more humiliating than having us be divided into teams and sliding on a soap tarp, waterballoon battleship or trying to build a tower from firewood. There was also some type of trying to get a bucket from top of a stick or something. Sure there are winners and losers. Like there are in academics as well. I have no memory if winners were announced. My guess is that evey grade was divide in colours and then those were counted together or something.

Meadowfinch · 17/05/2024 22:07

@Rewis With respect, that's a very adult and naive view.

For the kids, it doesn't matter what the activities are. There will be winners and losers, and children humiliated in front of an audience.

There is no justification for it.

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