Husband furious, think that this is the end

smokers? People who eat UPFs or drink to excess?
did they not choose to have cancer?

Very few on this thread seem able to grasp what it means to be psychotic/in the grip of psychosis.

You said to OP that you sympathised with DP because dealing with DS’s illness was too much drama and totally draining.

I certainly do sympathise with DP/DH - he has been demonised by some on here and this is completely undeserved. But I'd love you to quote my post where I said the exact words you've used above.

You are very fond of putting your own choice of words in people's mouths, aren't you? Now prove I said those exact words you have quoted.

And you are making assumptions about the young man in question, which may also be incorrect. But crack on, and enjoy your guesswork.

It is getting repetitive, yes.

But your last post has made me realise you are hyperfixated on the weed and unable to offer any understanding to a seriously ill young man.

I think it’s best we stop hijacking the thread.

Goodnight x

I mean - we all know people can do things that make them more likely to get cancer and do things that make them more likely to have mental health problems. Equally, some people who do those same things won't get sick. Also, many people who are sick can have an attributable 'cause' - weight, lifestyle, doing a sport etc. Nobody should be blamed for their illness.

But nor should anyone assume that someone with a mental illness is not responsible for ANY of their choices. That their whole personality is mental illness (even nearly a year after their treatment started). Honestly same would go for someone with a broken leg who refused to do rehab.

The amount of ignorance around MH never ceases to amaze me. I’ve read some disgusting views on the MH threads on here hundreds of times, and it’s really upsetting to think that there will be people who struggle themselves who will read such things as they’re ‘weak’, ‘lazy’ , ‘druggie scumbags’ etc, and they will feel even worse about themselves. People say it with such conviction as well as if they have a clue what they’re talking about 🤣 it’s effectively victim blaming and should be banned.

Oh dear, you're getting repetitive, aren't you? Must try harder.

As for the sufferer primarily deserving of sympathy and support, I don't agree. Nobody forced him to take weed, he made the decision himself.

OP I'm sorry for the hateful, ignorant, shallow, mean-spirited and uninformed comments on here. Your son is sick and hurting. He did nothing to deserve this. I'd tell your 'D'H to leave, in fact, I'd tell him I'm filing divorce papers first thing Monday. (Or, you can do them online apparently).

Those were your words I was using back at you.

You said to OP that you sympathised with DP because dealing with DS’s illness was too much drama and totally draining.

I was trying to explain that you cannot write somebody off as “drama” because they are ill.

Most addicts have had severe trauma in their lives that have led them to try drugs as a desperate attempt to escape their pain. It's either that, or suicide. But of course, ignorant and uneducated people assume they are trash who 'asked for it'. The callous ignorance on here, even in 2024, when there is lots education to be had on this issue, is truly heartbreaking.

Thank you for your other comment, which I will also treat with the contempt it deserves.

Would you advise OP not tolerate cancer sympathise with her DP because there’s too much drama and it’s totally draining trying to cope?

I thought you might like your memory refreshed on this ignorant comment.

If you think someone chooses to get severe depression or get an addiction (usually stemming from trauma), yours is the one that deserves contempt.

I, however, know that you equate someone getting cancer with someone who smokes weed, is verbally aggressive and refuses to engage with medical professionals.

i compared cancer to psychosis to illustrate that physical and mental illness are comparable and it is the sufferer who primarily deserves our sympathy and support.

The rest was all you and your own ideas about mental illness.

Thank you for your response, which I'll treat with the contempt it deserves.

People HAVE faked cancer for money. Google it, there have been several cases. It's rare, yes, but some have. There was a high profile case in Australia called Belle Gibson (I think her last name was) and she sold health books she said 'cured' her cancer. There have also been phony gofundmes, even beggers on Mumsnet.

I’m not sure YOU know what psychosis is. Of course it can cause abuse and stealing. It’s an altered reality that can change a person’s entire personality.

Nobody 'chooses' to get depression, or be an addict either, your comments are stupid, ignorant and offensive.

I didn’t compare cancer to smoking weed. I compared a serious physical illness (cancer) with a serious mental illness (psychosis).

You made the leap to comparing cancer to smoking weed based on your own judgemental attitude towards mental health.

Once again, especially for the hard of thinking: you know nothing whatsoever about what I think or I perceive, neither do I take instructions from you.

I, however, know that you equate someone getting cancer with someone who smokes weed, is verbally aggressive and refuses to engage with medical professionals.

I said nothing about cancer, I used it to illustrate my point

This makes zero sense. How could you have said nothing, but used it to illustrate your point? By thought transference, perhaps?

"and is old school that my son should just suck it up and man up"

That's not "old school", that is ignorant.

PIP is notoriously ill designed for scoring mental illness. It is based on physical abilities. Can you walk? Can you get out the bath?

PIP also has nothing to do with ability to work. You can work and claim PIP. You can not work and not get PIP.

You also seem to be assuming that everybody claims PIP because they can. I don’t. I claimed once and when it came to the review I didn’t want to put myself in that position again and stopped claiming. And I was one of the lucky ones, I got it first time without having to appeal. For me, it wasn’t worth the stress.

My comments weren’t crass. I said nothing about cancer, I used it to illustrate my point that mental and physical illnesses are the same and the suffered of both deserve our sympathy more than those who are vicariously affected.

Everybody on here knows someone who has suffered with cancer. Three of my GP died from it as did my best friend. That is literally why I used it as a comparable. Everybody can relate to it. Everybody knows what it feels like to have someone close go through that.

You only think it’s crass because you think mental illness is a choice. The patient is responsible because they smoked weed. The patient can control their behaviour. This is not me interpreting your words. These are your words. If you can’t face up to that then you know you need to do better. Otherwise own what you’ve said.

what you perceive as my crassness is really your own prejudice.

Almost as embarrassing as a poster on here who compared cancer to someone who has smoked weed, been verbally abusive and refused to engage with medical professionals. Ring any bells, StormingNorman?