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To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?

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Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 17:58

Hello hello? Kier? We’re here. We are right here. We are Women. Are you listening to us? Hello? Hello?

To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?
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Tootiredforallthiscrap · 16/05/2024 23:03

@AccidentallyWesAnderson there are certain posters on here who are all over anti immigration threads and ‘Labour doesn’t know what a woman is’ rants. Weird that.

@MistyGreenAndBlue well sorry if you’re voting tory and disabled and struggling like hell, I’ve no sympathy. Like who votes against their own interests when the whole issue for the most part is a Tory racket designed to create divert attention from their appalling record.

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Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:59

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/05/2024 22:48

You got all that from this thread?

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It’s amazing what a person can make up all by themselves!

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/05/2024 22:48

Tootiredforallthiscrap · 16/05/2024 22:36

I wish some posters would bugger off back to their white middle class financially insulated ivory towers where obviously life under the tories has been amazeballs. No immigrants, no dodgy trans people, and happy for private schools to flourish without contributing anything whilst at the same time sending their own kids to state grammar schools. See the bigger picture they say, women’s rights will be destroyed under Labour whilst the Tories have been quite happy to shaft w/c women and girls for years. Couldn’t make it up.

You got all that from this thread?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 16/05/2024 22:47

Tootiredforallthiscrap · 16/05/2024 22:36

I wish some posters would bugger off back to their white middle class financially insulated ivory towers where obviously life under the tories has been amazeballs. No immigrants, no dodgy trans people, and happy for private schools to flourish without contributing anything whilst at the same time sending their own kids to state grammar schools. See the bigger picture they say, women’s rights will be destroyed under Labour whilst the Tories have been quite happy to shaft w/c women and girls for years. Couldn’t make it up.

Working class, disabled, struggling like hell. Still not voting Labour. They can fuck off!

EasternStandard · 16/05/2024 22:45

Tootiredforallthiscrap · 16/05/2024 22:36

I wish some posters would bugger off back to their white middle class financially insulated ivory towers where obviously life under the tories has been amazeballs. No immigrants, no dodgy trans people, and happy for private schools to flourish without contributing anything whilst at the same time sending their own kids to state grammar schools. See the bigger picture they say, women’s rights will be destroyed under Labour whilst the Tories have been quite happy to shaft w/c women and girls for years. Couldn’t make it up.

Hmm at this list, seems fabricated.

Do you think it’s been a mistake to speak up against things such as Self ID and puberty blockers?

Was the Cass review useful or not

Or should children still have access to PB etc

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Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:37

Zonder · 16/05/2024 22:30

It's not a solid rumour. It's based on him once stumbling and saying he has two sons instead of a son and daughter. Because nobody stumbles over details under the spotlight.

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It’s much more than that. But either way. No one forgets what sex their children are.

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Tootiredforallthiscrap · 16/05/2024 22:36

I wish some posters would bugger off back to their white middle class financially insulated ivory towers where obviously life under the tories has been amazeballs. No immigrants, no dodgy trans people, and happy for private schools to flourish without contributing anything whilst at the same time sending their own kids to state grammar schools. See the bigger picture they say, women’s rights will be destroyed under Labour whilst the Tories have been quite happy to shaft w/c women and girls for years. Couldn’t make it up.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 16/05/2024 22:35

Zonder · 16/05/2024 22:30

It's not a solid rumour. It's based on him once stumbling and saying he has two sons instead of a son and daughter. Because nobody stumbles over details under the spotlight.

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Oh please. You show me one person, even under pressure, who doesn't know the sex of their own kids that they live with and see every day.

Zonder · 16/05/2024 22:30

Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:22

There’s a solid rumour that one of his children is trans. That would significantly influence his behaviour wrt women’s rights.

It is not the publics business to know about his child. But where he’s potentially the pm of this country, with power to implement policy that affects us all, one could say that such an influential factor is significant. Every one of does the best for our children. But everyone of us isn’t potential pm.

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It's not a solid rumour. It's based on him once stumbling and saying he has two sons instead of a son and daughter. Because nobody stumbles over details under the spotlight.

Zonder · 16/05/2024 22:28

AdamRyan · 16/05/2024 21:00

What, like this you mean?

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I don't know how anyone can watch this and still say they will vote Tory over labour for the sake of women.

EasternStandard · 16/05/2024 22:28

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/05/2024 22:10

I know perfectly well how to hide a thread, thanks. I also am perfectly within my rights to join a thread to say that I think it’s total bollocks.

What are you including as “bollocks”?

Stopping puberty blockers, the Cass review, women speaking up?

MistyGreenAndBlue · 16/05/2024 22:26

Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:14

I’m sorry. I don’t think Labour will be any better 🙁

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/labour-admits-dropping-disability-rights-pledge-from-policy-plan/

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Starmer himself has actually said that the plans the Tories have put forth regarding disability payments "don't go far enough"
Make of that what you will. But they are NOT our saviours.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 16/05/2024 22:23

pointythings · 16/05/2024 21:15

People keep saying this. Where's the evidence?

Oh wait, there isn't any. Just assumption and interpretation.

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And the fact that Labour have stated openly, on many occasions, that this is what they plan to do.

They have back tracked slightly of late, but make no mistake, had they been in power over the last few years, it would already be done.

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Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:22

Totallymessed · 16/05/2024 22:14

I do like a lot of what Keir Starmer is saying, but his attitude on trans issues does really concern me. The way he's treated Rosie Duffield is shameful, IMO, and it makes me suspect he's just a misogynist who pays lip service to caring about women's rights, but is happy to throw women under the bus when he feels like it. Although I'm lucky enough that my local (Labour) MP is gender critical. But yes, it is certainly making me very wary about Starmer. Frankly, I just don't trust him- not great in our presumed future PM.

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There’s a solid rumour that one of his children is trans. That would significantly influence his behaviour wrt women’s rights.

It is not the publics business to know about his child. But where he’s potentially the pm of this country, with power to implement policy that affects us all, one could say that such an influential factor is significant. Every one of does the best for our children. But everyone of us isn’t potential pm.

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Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:16

PurpleBugz · 16/05/2024 21:43

I'm with you OP I can't vote labour. But I refuse to vote Tory after what they have done to our public services. I have a disabled child with no school place I want to work but can't due to my son so im now benefits scum reading regularly how lazy people like me are the problem. When I could work I worked in early years and what's happened to the sector under the tories is abominable.

I've considered spoiling my ballot rather than just not voting

That’s horrendous, i’m sorry. Are there no schools for your child at all?

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AmpleFatball · 16/05/2024 22:14

There’s beet little difference between the Tories and Labour on this issue, these days. And the Tories have been in power for well over a decade without doing anything to better clarify/protect single sex spaces.

Totallymessed · 16/05/2024 22:14

AdamRyan · 16/05/2024 21:24

Victoria Smith is great isn't she.

Personally I feel Starmer is listening to women with his priorities and putting womens rights (like the right to justice and fair treatment) at the heart of what he's planning. So interested what "left wing bullshit" you were trying to call out? Or did you just want to let everyone know you are anti-Starmer?

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I do like a lot of what Keir Starmer is saying, but his attitude on trans issues does really concern me. The way he's treated Rosie Duffield is shameful, IMO, and it makes me suspect he's just a misogynist who pays lip service to caring about women's rights, but is happy to throw women under the bus when he feels like it. Although I'm lucky enough that my local (Labour) MP is gender critical. But yes, it is certainly making me very wary about Starmer. Frankly, I just don't trust him- not great in our presumed future PM.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 16/05/2024 22:10

I know perfectly well how to hide a thread, thanks. I also am perfectly within my rights to join a thread to say that I think it’s total bollocks.

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Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:07

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To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?
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Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 22:06

@AdamRyan

She is. This made me laugh

To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?
To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?
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EasternStandard · 16/05/2024 22:04

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/05/2024 21:55

I think the 'silly women' are the ones who can't appear to distinguish trans issues with the negative impact on women's rights to safe spaces and protections in sports.

Some have been posting against women and telling us how silly we are the whole way through

And yet list Cass and stopping puberty blockers as good things

They hindered more than helped on that score

Fluffyowl00 · 16/05/2024 21:56

I think it would grab more attention if you stopped repeating yourself and go for something more current. Can I suggest perhaps “AIBU to think that Kier Starmer doesn’t know what clean drinking water is?”

You're welcome 😌

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/05/2024 21:56

And also the inability to not open and post on topics that you are exasperated with. Bizarre.

CrappySack · 16/05/2024 21:55

silverneedle · 16/05/2024 21:45

I am disabled. Another Tory govt terrifies me, more disability cuts.

Same here.

And God help anyone who has a child needing mental health services after the chronic underfunding by this government. I dread to think what it (plus all the other areas they've ruined) would be like if they got another term.

At least they'd pretend to know what a woman is (until they got voted it in of course). Let's just pretend the ones that are saying TWAW don't exist 🤫